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Oct 24, 2020 21:16:51   #
Auntie Dee
 
Peewee wrote:
Most hospitals are still not doing elective surgeries? How can they be overworked? The same thing goes on in the UK. Now they want to let staff go, you can't afford to pay people for just hanging around. Hospitals aren't Congress you know. I think the central bankers are about to push a universal bitcoin standard of income. No war has broken out, so they have to figure out how to reset the economy on their terms. POTUS has a different plan that will destroy them and save us and maybe the world. His plan unchains us from the 'usuary' proponents. Let us print worthless money and charge you interest. That way you never get out of debt or free. Our economy didn't crash, it was just in a holding pattern. Now it's racing back up again. POTUS is using his magic wand and it's working. People in DC will never figure it out unless they have run a business.
Most hospitals are still not doing elective surger... (show quote)



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Oct 24, 2020 21:18:58   #
Auntie Dee
 
roy wrote:
Just one tucker Carlson how bid an idiot came you believe any dam thing he says .Right now he's just trying to kiss Trump's ass ,if joe wins he will be up Joe's ass


You have NO idea what you are even trying to say and you can't even say it right! Tucker would NEVER kiss Joe's anything!!!

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Oct 24, 2020 21:20:01   #
Auntie Dee
 
bmac32 wrote:
I wonder how many have died of Covid without some other under laying factor?


The CDC says about 9,700!

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Oct 24, 2020 22:07:24   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Auntie Dee wrote:
You have NO idea what you are even trying to say and you can't even say it right! Tucker would NEVER kiss Joe's anything!!!


Tucker Carlson is one of the few journalists/commentators that actually bash politicians on both sides. Roy wouldn’t know. Too dumb. He repeats what he’s told. Guarantee he’s never watched Tucker.

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Oct 24, 2020 23:38:53   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
roy wrote:
Just one tucker Carlson how bid an idiot came you believe any dam thing he says .Right now he's just trying to kiss Trump's ass ,if joe wins he will be up Joe's ass


Roy, the fact that you feel the way you do about Tucker Carlson is probably the #1 highest rated enhancement on his resume. You saying what you do about him certainly makes ME want to watch him more often.

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Oct 25, 2020 04:38:45   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Capt-jack wrote:
We need to talk about deaths in the USA this year
Here are the last 10 years of total deaths in the US from all causes:

2010
Deaths: 2,468,435
Population: 309,346,863

2011
Deaths: 2,515,458
Population: 311,718,857

2012
Deaths: 2,543,279
Population: 314,102,623

2013
Deaths: 2,596,993
Population: 316,427,395

2014
Deaths: 2,626,418
Population: 318,907,401

2015
Deaths: 2,712,630
Population: 321,418,820

2016
Deaths: 2,744,248
Population: 323,071,342

2017
Deaths: 2,813,503
Population: 325,147,121

2018
Deaths: 2,839,205
Population: 327,167,439

2019
Deaths: 2,855,000
Population: 329,110,439

2020
As of September 24th, there are 2,033,736 total deaths in the US. That is a daily average of 7,588 deaths.
7,588 X 365 days= 2,769,620 is the total deaths we could expect in 2020 based on the numbers so far.

So the question is this: How can we have fewer deaths in the US if there is a pandemic going on?
For the last 100 years, there has never been a decrease in total deaths per year in the US.

If this were a normal year, with no pandemic, we should have around 2,875,000 deaths.
But this isn't a normal year so we should end up with around 3,200,000 deaths when you add in the Covid-19 deaths.

Someone isn't telling us the truth, someone is lying there ass off. (media and government).
We need to talk about deaths in the USA this year ... (show quote)


More garbage BS fake news. According to the CDC we have already had nearly 300,000 more deaths this year than expected compared to previous years. 200,000+ from Covid, another 100,000 from other sources. Do your research fully before you post fake news garbage.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm?s_cid=mm6942e2_w

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Oct 25, 2020 07:44:52   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
More garbage BS fake news. According to the CDC we have already had nearly 300,000 more deaths this year than expected compared to previous years. 200,000+ from Covid, another 100,000 from other sources. Do your research fully before you post fake news garbage.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm?s_cid=mm6942e2_w


That was a very interesting article. Thank you for posting it. Clearly there are discrepancies between the numbers in various reports, which only goes to show that one of the points in the original post is true: ie, that we are not being told the entire truth. I admire the CDC, but they have done some damage to their credibility over the past nine months, and seem to have to their own political agenda, at least to some extent. When their numbers conflict with other published numbers, who do we trust?

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Oct 25, 2020 09:40:57   #
Capt-jack Loc: Home
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
No.. It's not...

But, if it's of interest, China has seen a reduction in deaths from infectious diseases this year... They are chalking it up the restrictions and better medical awareness in the part of the population...

Still, flu season is upon us... We should all be vigilant....


I have a feeling that China has a vaccine. And gave it out to their important people long before they let their virus free to wreck the world.

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Oct 25, 2020 10:22:28   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Capt-jack wrote:
I have a feeling that China has a vaccine. And gave it out to their important people long before they let their virus free to wreck the world.


I have a feeling they don't... But one is now available... on a limited basis... For certain situations...

I'm not lining up for it

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Oct 25, 2020 13:37:19   #
Owl32 Loc: ARK
 
roy wrote:
Just one tucker Carlson how bid an idiot came you believe any dam thing he says .Right now he's just trying to kiss Trump's ass ,if joe wins he will be up Joe's ass


name when he tells a lie, you know your facts actually use FAKE NEWS to get their facts which are actually lies.

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Oct 25, 2020 19:40:36   #
AmericanVIKING Loc: USA
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
More garbage BS fake news. According to the CDC we have already had nearly 300,000 more deaths this year than expected compared to previous years. 200,000+ from Covid, another 100,000 from other sources. Do your research fully before you post fake news garbage.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm?s_cid=mm6942e2_w





WOW, There sure are some different statistics flying around.

I'm NOT SLAMMING ANYONE HERE...Just showing what I find when I browse sites that are making some deadly COVIC19 claims...yet not one is consistent with any other site that I've been able to read.

I read your article and is makes things go over the top for throwing even more contradiction statistics out there.

IF one were to use different numbers from the different sites with such different claims then we would and should be seeing many more deaths that there are reported...their math doesn't measure up.
IF and that is saying a gigantic IF this site is correct then we should be seeing about 280,000 more overall deaths. HOWEVER, that would mean, using some of the other figures that the COVID19 deaths have REDUCTION of the Normal OVERALL deaths. REALLY?

How can any of that make any sense at all? They are not planning their report to fit the numbers because why? A failed plan to take us hostage...It isn't working out like they planned because of OUR President is brazen enough to call them out and they are frustrated and making mistake after mistake now...the BLEW IT and they know it but just keep propagating more insane false claims...so sad for them...NOT!!!

SO HOW THIS WORKS IS ANYONE'S GUESS.
Three of of four dies from COVID19 on one site and then the next week that same site claims 1 out of 3.

IF either were true then the USA would be about DEAD, DEAD, DEAD already.

Now I'm not saying there weren't Actual COVID19 deaths but not in the numbers they are all making claims to.
I have said all along that this is MOSTLY a test, scare tactic and a lot more HHHEEUUUUEEE-HEEBEE-GEEBEE-Hockus-Pocus experiential populous control than anything else.

How can the rural folk go about their business without the mask and have better proportional health than the city folk? WE aren't wearing masks that we already know are useless...the masks strain out anything larger than 15microns yet the virus is smaller at only a mere 3micron...where's the filtration to keep that 3micron virus from going straight thru the mask with a 15micron capability? Tell me...

I can't find any two sites that state the same numbers...can you? If so please paste them here for all to see...please? I for one would like to see anything confirm ANY of the media claims and fears they're trying to sell us.

The CDC, Fauci and WHO have all said so many contradictory claims since day one that no one in their right mind can believe anything coming from them....THEY ALL HAVE MONEY INVESTMENTS IN ALL THIS...so you figure it out....who do we trust and will give us the REAL TRUTH?

This is one of the worst lies they've laid on us for some time and they are so diluted to think we are buying into it.

I think it was Shakespeare that had a saying that I'll try to paraphrase..."You can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." You can take it from there.

THE MATH DOESN'T ADD UP...!!!!!

JUST SAYIN'

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Oct 25, 2020 19:55:08   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
One of my client’s is an award winning statistician. He says the numbers statistically make no sense. Impossible in a country, China, population of 1.7 billion to have only 5 thousand Covid deaths, when the US has 200 thousand plus in a country of 330 million. Unless of course, death by Covid is counted differently in the two countries. Perhaps other variables exist, such as the vulnerability of different races. It’s obvious no matter the true numbers ours have been politicized.
AmericanVIKING wrote:
WOW, There sure are some different statistics flying around.

I'm NOT SLAMMING ANYONE HERE...Just showing what I find when I browse sites that are making some deadly COVIC19 claims...yet not one is consistent with any other site that I've been able to read.

I read your article and is makes things go over the top for throwing even more contradiction statistics out there.

IF one were to use different numbers from the different sites with such different claims then we would and should be seeing many more deaths that there are reported...their math doesn't measure up.
IF and that is saying a gigantic IF this site is correct then we should be seeing about 280,000 more overall deaths. HOWEVER, that would mean, using some of the other figures that the COVID19 deaths have REDUCTION of the Normal OVERALL deaths. REALLY?

How can any of that make any sense at all? They are not planning their report to fit the numbers because why? A failed plan to take us hostage...It isn't working out like they planned because of OUR President is brazen enough to call them out and they are frustrated and making mistake after mistake now...the BLEW IT and they know it but just keep propagating more insane false claims...so sad for them...NOT!!!

SO HOW THIS WORKS IS ANYONE'S GUESS.
Three of of four dies from COVID19 on one site and then the next week that same site claims 1 out of 3.

IF either were true then the USA would be about DEAD, DEAD, DEAD already.

Now I'm not saying there weren't Actual COVID19 deaths but not in the numbers they are all making claims to.
I have said all along that this is MOSTLY a test, scare tactic and a lot more HHHEEUUUUEEE-HEEBEE-GEEBEE-Hockus-Pocus experiential populous control than anything else.

How can the rural folk go about their business without the mask and have better proportional health than the city folk? WE aren't wearing masks that we already know are useless...the masks strain out anything larger than 15microns yet the virus is smaller at only a mere 3micron...where's the filtration to keep that 3micron virus from going straight thru the mask with a 15micron capability? Tell me...

I can't find any two sites that state the same numbers...can you? If so please paste them here for all to see...please? I for one would like to see anything confirm ANY of the media claims and fears they're trying to sell us.

The CDC, Fauci and WHO have all said so many contradictory claims since day one that no one in their right mind can believe anything coming from them....THEY ALL HAVE MONEY INVESTMENTS IN ALL THIS...so you figure it out....who do we trust and will give us the REAL TRUTH?

This is one of the worst lies they've laid on us for some time and they are so diluted to think we are buying into it.

I think it was Shakespeare that had a saying that I'll try to paraphrase..."You can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." You can take it from there.

THE MATH DOESN'T ADD UP...!!!!!

JUST SAYIN'
WOW, There sure are some different statistics flyi... (show quote)

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Oct 25, 2020 20:20:36   #
AmericanVIKING Loc: USA
 
JFlorio wrote:
One of my client’s is an award winning statistician. He says the numbers statistically make no sense. Impossible in a country, China, population of 1.7 billion to have only 5 thousand Covid deaths, when the US has 200 thousand plus in a country of 330 million. Unless of course, death by Covid is counted differently in the two countries. Perhaps other variables exist, such as the vulnerability of different races. It’s obvious no matter the true numbers ours have been politicized.




Thank you for your response.

I'M NOT a mathematician so to get that information is sort of confirmation to my laymen math ability.

I don't know if we will ever know the actual and complete truth because it has been so diluted and mismanaged since the day they planned all this.

I'd like to reiterate that I don't claim the virus in not real but rather exaggerated and played out as if out of a 1970's "Twilight" episode.

JUST SAYIN'

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Oct 27, 2020 16:08:23   #
Capt-jack Loc: Home
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
More garbage BS fake news. According to the CDC we have already had nearly 300,000 more deaths this year than expected compared to previous years. 200,000+ from Covid, another 100,000 from other sources. Do your research fully before you post fake news garbage.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm?s_cid=mm6942e2_w


The CDC, O' yeah, full of information, humm, not what I see!

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Nov 8, 2020 23:57:56   #
newbear Loc: New York City
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
No.. It's not...

But, if it's of interest, China has seen a reduction in deaths from infectious diseases this year... They are chalking it up the restrictions and better medical awareness in the part of the population...

Still, flu season is upon us... We should all be vigilant....


Canuckus Deploracus,

what search engine are you using, may I ask?

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