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Oct 12, 2020 22:47:35   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
The Aztecs built a great civilization...

People compete for resources... Always have...

I don't understand why we feel bad about these things...
Usually, a victim would be taken to the top of a great pyramid and laid down over a sacrificial stone. A priest would stand over him, holding a knife with a blade of volcanic glass. That blade would come down upon the victim’s chest and break it open, and the priest would tear out his still-beating heart.

The priest would hold the heart up high for all to see. Then he would dash it to pieces against the sacrificial stone. The lifeless body would be rolled down the steps of the pyramid, where butchers were waiting below to dismember the body piece by piece.

The skull would be removed and placed on a rack along with the skulls of the other sacrificed dead. Then the flesh from the body would be cooked into meals and fed to the nobles.


10 Horrors Of Aztec Ritual Human Sacrifice

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Oct 12, 2020 22:49:30   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Usually, a victim would be taken to the top of a great pyramid and laid down over a sacrificial stone. A priest would stand over him, holding a knife with a blade of volcanic glass. That blade would come down upon the victim’s chest and break it open, and the priest would tear out his still-beating heart.

The priest would hold the heart up high for all to see. Then he would dash it to pieces against the sacrificial stone. The lifeless body would be rolled down the steps of the pyramid, where butchers were waiting below to dismember the body piece by piece.

The skull would be removed and placed on a rack along with the skulls of the other sacrificed dead. Then the flesh from the body would be cooked into meals and fed to the nobles.


10 Horrors Of Aztec Ritual Human Sacrifice
i Usually, a victim would be taken to the top of ... (show quote)


Yea, the Aztecs were a great bunch of guys, as long as you were an upper echelon Aztec.

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Oct 12, 2020 22:50:59   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
JFlorio wrote:
I really don't. Just kind of glad my ancestors were on the winning side.


Cheers to that🍺🍺🍺

And here's hoping we continue to make them proud🍺🍺🍺

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Oct 12, 2020 22:53:13   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Usually, a victim would be taken to the top of a great pyramid and laid down over a sacrificial stone. A priest would stand over him, holding a knife with a blade of volcanic glass. That blade would come down upon the victim’s chest and break it open, and the priest would tear out his still-beating heart.

The priest would hold the heart up high for all to see. Then he would dash it to pieces against the sacrificial stone. The lifeless body would be rolled down the steps of the pyramid, where butchers were waiting below to dismember the body piece by piece.

The skull would be removed and placed on a rack along with the skulls of the other sacrificed dead. Then the flesh from the body would be cooked into meals and fed to the nobles.


10 Horrors Of Aztec Ritual Human Sacrifice
i Usually, a victim would be taken to the top of ... (show quote)


Yep... Good description of an Aztec sacrifice...

Although I have never heard of the cannibal part... Be careful with listverse, they don't always thoroughly vet their sources... But it's a great site!!! Love that you are checking it out

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Oct 13, 2020 05:49:18   #
Tug484
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:


I read a book about him.
It was very interesting.
He had a fourth ship that sank.
I wish I could remember the name of the ship and the name of the guy that discovered it.
He wanted to dive and bring it up.
The country it's in wouldn't let him.
The book told about the worms in the ocean eating holes in the wood bottoms.
I think it took courage to take a voyage back then.

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Oct 13, 2020 07:55:53   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Tug484 wrote:
I read a book about him.
It was very interesting.
He had a fourth ship that sank.
I wish I could remember the name of the ship and the name of the guy that discovered it.
He wanted to dive and bring it up.
The country it's in wouldn't let him.
The book told about the worms in the ocean eating holes in the wood bottoms.
I think it took courage to take a voyage back then.


An amazing individual

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Oct 13, 2020 09:16:42   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
An amazing individual


Like this one too... Perhaps more accurate...



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Oct 13, 2020 10:08:46   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Usually, a victim would be taken to the top of a great pyramid and laid down over a sacrificial stone. A priest would stand over him, holding a knife with a blade of volcanic glass. That blade would come down upon the victim’s chest and break it open, and the priest would tear out his still-beating heart.

The priest would hold the heart up high for all to see. Then he would dash it to pieces against the sacrificial stone. The lifeless body would be rolled down the steps of the pyramid, where butchers were waiting below to dismember the body piece by piece.

The skull would be removed and placed on a rack along with the skulls of the other sacrificed dead. Then the flesh from the body would be cooked into meals and fed to the nobles.


10 Horrors Of Aztec Ritual Human Sacrifice
i Usually, a victim would be taken to the top of ... (show quote)

Years ago I read the book “Aztec” and I remember that I was fascinated.

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Oct 13, 2020 16:19:28   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Like this one too... Perhaps more accurate...


And then again, we get the Chaff with the Wheat... Is BLM, ANTIFA, KKK, Neo-Nazis and other radical groups... part of our Chaff?

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Oct 13, 2020 17:38:54   #
GmanTerry
 
Ferrous wrote:
Also was responsible for bringing European diseases that decimated the Native Indians. But if it wasn't Columbus, it would have been another explorer... so I guess he really can't be blamed for that.

He also introduced Christianity which took it's toll on Native Americans.... But again we really can't blame him.

In opening up the Americas, he opened up the Slave Trade, and is responsible for the Systemic Racism in America...

So he could be blamed for the whole mess of Fighting against Diversities and instilling Racial Superiority here in America.

It didn't start with the Vikings, it started with Columbus... and what came after him.
Also was responsible for bringing European disease... (show quote)


Just curious. How can America be "Systemic Racist" when we are in the first term into the President who replaced a black President? The black President was re-elected to a second term? Who the hell voted for Obama if the country is racist? Blacks are 13% of the population. They couldn't have elected Obama by themselves.


Semper Fi

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Oct 13, 2020 17:47:58   #
jwrevagent
 
Parky60 wrote:
He wasn't an immigrant. He went back to Spain.


But wasn't Columbus Italian, having been born in Genoa? So if he went back to Spain, he could still be an immigrant, only to Spain, right?

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Oct 13, 2020 18:15:05   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
GmanTerry wrote:
Just curious. How can America be "Systemic Racist" when we are in the first term into the President who replaced a black President? The black President was re-elected to a second term? Who the hell voted for Obama if the country is racist? Blacks are 13% of the population. They couldn't have elected Obama by themselves.

Semper Fi


Just repeating the Leftist Mantra (Satirically)... Like Kamala Harris has stated; America is a Systemic Racist country.

When all the Radical Liberals have left is throwing out the Racist Card, we know they are in Deep Trouble.

2008 Election:
Barack Obama (Democrat) 69,498,516 52.9%
John McCain (Republican) 59,948,323 45.7%

As of May 2020, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats, 25% identified as Republican, and 40% as Independent.

The Democrats are worried as they see their once held advantage of about 51% slip down to 31% with both Democrats and Republicans leaving their parties and going more Moderate. Why else would they be running Good Ole Joe as a Trojan Horse to con the Moderate vote and then anoint Harris.

Obama's 8 years will go down as the Arab Spring and setting these countries on fire... our country on fire. Tension hasn't been this violent even the early 60's...BLM has put a target on the backs of Law Enforcement Officers. (No wonder they might want to shoot first and not take that chance). Is this what a Community Organizer (following the Rules set down for them in Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals) can accomplish?

Yes, this Nation is becoming Systemic Racial toward us, the now White Minority and Officers sworn to protect us.

Can we survive 8 years of Harris telling us how bad we and our Country, are?

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Oct 13, 2020 18:53:02   #
Tug484
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
An amazing individual


He was and he landed in a lot more places than America.
That was a thick book and interesting from beginning to end.

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Oct 13, 2020 19:30:08   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
My question... Is Columbus, Italian or Portuguese? (hint, follow the DNA)

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Oct 14, 2020 15:04:28   #
JohnCorrespondent
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:


Yes there is at least one "flaw" or misleading thing in the logic of that sign.

I see two keywords in the sign: immigrant and diversity. As other(s) have already pointed out, he wasn't what we'd call an "immigrant" because he didn't stay. But the more interesting concept is diversity.

Somewhere along the way, people started talking about "diversity". I don't remember hearing that word growing up in a backwoods rural American village. But I think I started hearing it while attending a liberal arts college in the early 70s.

So what was the big deal with diversity, and what got people started talking so much about it? Well, some people thought there was something good about having a variety of different kinds of people around. "Diversity" is intended as a positive word.

Abstractly, of course a variety in people is good, because you'd want a variety of skills around, and no one person has them all. But "diversity" in public discourse is really about cultural diversity: different ways of thinking and behaving, and different products such as in cuisine. People also talk about "racial" diversity and gender diversity. But I think cultural diversity is the most important element that makes diversity worth talking about.

For me it was a slam-dunk that diversity was a good thing. In the village, there was mostly homogeneity, and I was one of the different ones! (I believe the difference was mainly cultural, as my parents brought with them other ways from different parts of the country, and I grew up to be mostly like them.) I wanted to fit in, but for some mysterious reason that wasn't happening, and I even encountered hostility. Then, when I went away to college, for some reason, all the hostility and bad feelings evaporated away, as if instantly. At the same time I noticed that the people around me at college were from a greater variety of places (east coast, west coast, Africa, Japan, Iran, ...), and had behaviors I felt more comfortable with (styles of conversation, things they liked to do); and virtually all the people at college were friendly and also they even seemed to me more intelligent, and maybe they really were more intelligent, collectively, because after all it was an institution for higher education. Plus, at the college there was a greater variety of things to learn and participate in. Whatever else was going on, I'd say cultural diversity was a big part of my more positive experience there as compared with being back in the village.

To be really thorough, there might be a few more paragraphs here, to show steps from each thought to some other thought. I'll try to be a little briefer and cut to the chase.

Ok, so now consider Columbus and his kind (and their attitude toward the natives) (as described by Bartolome de las Casas); Columbus brought diversity like bringing a bucket of sand and dumping it into a pot of oatmeal. The contents of such a pot are then technically more "diverse" in that they are more different kinds of particles than before, but it doesn't make the oatmeal better.

So in my opinion the sign is missing the point about "diversity"; because, technically having more variety present (different kinds of particles in the pot of oatmeal) is not at all the same as a variety of people mixing yet not working against each other. The people I've been around in college, and most other places I've spent most of my time in later, have been mixing but not working against each other. But sand works against oatmeal. Columbus and those who followed him were (not to claim "always", but at least "often") brutal and cruel toward the natives.

I notice the comments about the natives (Aztecs and others). I disagree about the overall meaning, but that's a slightly different topic, from the one about the sign and diversity.

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