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Sep 27, 2020 20:46:10   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
son of witless wrote:
We are treading on dangerous ground. I also apologize. However, unless I misunderstood your post, it seemed to be a blanket attack on all Christians who support Donald J. Trump. There are many Christians who support the President because his policies are better than Democrat policies for their Churches, their Country, and their families. They are fully aware of his warts, but the alternative is too horrible to contemplate.

I know right wing ministers who have attacked him and are not comfortable with him, but again Joe Biden, Occasio-Cortez, etc are a thousand times more horrible to them.
We are treading on dangerous ground. I also apolog... (show quote)


It was a strong statement to make a heart felt point.. we are very far apart on what we see as needed for the county.. but I shall try my best to hold down my comments.. also, my wife said I had to cool down..

end of the day.. have a good evening and type again tomorrow..

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Sep 27, 2020 20:59:21   #
Seth
 
permafrost wrote:
Son,,, I consider myself a Christian and struggle on my own..

i do not often address any religion for debate, regardless of group.. religion is a very personal subject and so many tiny difference become a great divide between people if they try and prove their own POV..

If I insulted your religious POV , I am truly sorry.. please accept my apology..


Now that's a meme I can believe.

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Sep 27, 2020 21:24:01   #
Ike25
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Funny with these pics they can be in Russia, or wherever.


I suppose you think that Biden's campaign promise for "college for all and Medicare for all plus a revised green deal"was just to get the college vote? From your point of view I guess it is OK for a dumocrat to lie for votes. Or maybe your so rich you donot care what such proposals will cost the nation?

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Sep 27, 2020 21:37:46   #
Ike25
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
That is a transparent and rather childish denial. Yeah, the photos could have been taken "in Russia, or wherever", but they weren't.


If the photos were taken in another country the people in that country speak & read english. Otherwise they couldn't read the banners being carried.

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Sep 28, 2020 08:49:07   #
Cuda2020
 
Crayons wrote:
I'm seein the 'riot-party's last stand...please continue with more 'lincoln-project' fake news


Live Tape is a real Shame for Trumper's

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Sep 28, 2020 08:57:28   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Live Tape is a real Shame for Trumper's


More so for Bideners.
Stutter, stutter, what office is it, somebody tell me what town this is.

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Sep 28, 2020 09:01:04   #
Cuda2020
 
Seth wrote:
I don't know, in my experience, most employers compensate based on the asset value of the employee, meaning based on performance, dependability, loyalty and tenacity.

If someone wants to be a career entry level employee, just put in his hours, refuse to work any OT when needed, just have the attitude that "that's not my job. I get paid to do this and this only," he is supremely replaceable. There has always been and always will be an abundant pool of unmotivated workers to draw on, and the marketplace will always compensate them according to the laws of supply and demand.

On the other hand, there is the employee who makes an effort to learn the details of all the jobs in their respective work areas or departments so as to be useful in more than just "what they're paid for," who are willing to work late or extra days when their employers need them and are always there to help the next person if they've completed their own work or if the other employee looks like he's falling behind.

Most of the jobs I've held working for other people, I started at entry level, mainly because when I was younger I wasn't sure what I wanted to do, and gave my fullest efforts to my employers. Every single job with a company of any size saw me getting fast promotions and generous raises.

Today, I see a lot of people who seem to believe that it's up to an employer to prove himself (or in the case of a large corporation, itself) to the hired help.

That's not the way it works. It's up to an employee to prove his worth to whoever is paying the freight -- the employee didn't share the financial risks of starting the business and he doesn't share the headaches or any of the exposure the employer endures in the event of a downturn in business. The employee doesn't contribute to the rent/bills/business taxes or even the insurance an employer has to carry to cover loss of assets or employee accidents/injuries. The employer also has to match the Social Security premiums taken out of the employee's pay check.

People don't go into business as a charitable endeavor to support the lazy or unmotivated, they go into business to make profits. Again, from my experience most of these people are more than happy to share a larger amount of the profits with those employees who are most instrumental in helping them make those profits, whether by directly bringing in money or by helping keep things running smoothly -- a happy employer is one who knows his people have his back, that he doesn't have to worry about their end of things being efficiently handled without the need to look over their shoulder, so to speak.

Like they say, pay commensurate with performance and asset value.

When I see someone "earning" $40.00 an hour with a metric ton of benefits just to hose out some garbage cans and sweep because he has a union contract and he's happy to spend 40 years doing just that and nothing more, I truly wonder why the employer hasn't relocated.
I don't know, in my experience, most employers com... (show quote)


Then you've lived in a bubble, if you think that's the only way it goes, by your narrow perception. If that were true, why do you think we've risen from sweat shops, for men, woman and most of all the children, do you recall history at all, when employers were left to their only devices and consciousness, people suffered and died. This is why labor laws were created and passed. Yes there are people and companies that do the right thing, but they are there for the ones that don't and EXPLOIT people.

Yes I agree in some circumstances the scales tipped too far the other way, as in some unions, or teacher's union.

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Sep 28, 2020 10:24:23   #
son of witless
 
permafrost wrote:
It was a strong statement to make a heart felt point.. we are very far apart on what we see as needed for the county.. but I shall try my best to hold down my comments.. also, my wife said I had to cool down..

end of the day.. have a good evening and type again tomorrow..


I love bashing liberals, but there are limits I do not wish to cross. I expect that you are just as passionate in what you believe in and what you wish to fight for. I expect no less. You have observed rules in these discussions that others violate with impunity. I try to stay within the limits that each poster sets.

A few people here I have not conscience about what I say. You are one that has a conscience, so with you I will try to stay in bounds. Now within those bounds I play rough, and again I expect no less from you.

Unfortunately I tend to confuse you with another poster. I have tried to stop doing that that, but I keep failing. I will try harder. Have a blessed day.

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Sep 28, 2020 11:25:12   #
Seth
 
Ike25 wrote:
I suppose you think that Biden's campaign promise for "college for all and Medicare for all plus a revised green deal"was just to get the college vote? From your point of view I guess it is OK for a dumocrat to lie for votes. Or maybe your so rich you donot care what such proposals will cost the nation?


That's an underlying fact behind much of the Democrats' ambitions -- all of their key politicians have used their political offices to make themselves rich, with some help from billionaires like George Soros, and thereby isolate themselves from the consequences of their agendas, from the rioting they have helped foment to the zero liberty, economic misery that will permeate the country if they are successful.

This concept is so far beyond the grasp of their obtuse followers that those rubes will happily vote themselves into totalitarian hell.

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Sep 29, 2020 20:36:47   #
Cuda2020
 
Seth wrote:
That's an underlying fact behind much of the Democrats' ambitions -- all of their key politicians have used their political offices to make themselves rich, with some help from billionaires like George Soros, and thereby isolate themselves from the consequences of their agendas, from the rioting they have helped foment to the zero liberty, economic misery that will permeate the country if they are successful.

This concept is so far beyond the grasp of their obtuse followers that those rubes will happily vote themselves into totalitarian hell.
That's an underlying fact behind much of the Democ... (show quote)


Are you serious, wow, just wow, come out of your bubble, Democrats ambition, where have you been buddy? You show me a politician that hasn't made money since he got into office. How can you possibly ignore your entire party and be so obtuse to think your party is as innocent as a new born baby, what mind altering drugs are you taking?

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Sep 30, 2020 00:31:10   #
Seth
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Are you serious, wow, just wow, come out of your bubble, Democrats ambition, where have you been buddy? You show me a politician that hasn't made money since he got into office. How can you possibly ignore your entire party and be so obtuse to think your party is as innocent as a new born baby, what mind altering drugs are you taking?


Those Republicans that may have made money because of their political offices, of which there are doubtless a few, don't do so by making deals with our enemies as most of the high profile Democrats do -- China comes to mind in a big way. The Bidens, the Fine Steen, etc.

Selling out our country is not in the DNA of a conservative, whereas today's Democrats could care less -- they know that if their agendas are realized and they're not megarich, they'll have to suffer alongside the average American, so they feather their nests accordingly.

That's not difficult to do when one has little use or little respect for America as the nation was founded to be.

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Sep 30, 2020 07:09:39   #
Cuda2020
 
Seth wrote:
Those Republicans that may have made money because of their political offices, of which there are doubtless a few, don't do so by making deals with our enemies as most of the high profile Democrats do -- China comes to mind in a big way. The Bidens, the Fine Steen, etc.

Selling out our country is not in the DNA of a conservative, whereas today's Democrats could care less -- they know that if their agendas are realized and they're not megarich, they'll have to suffer alongside the average American, so they feather their nests accordingly.

That's not difficult to do when one has little use or little respect for America as the nation was founded to be.
Those Republicans that may have made money because... (show quote)


Are you kidding? What do you think your so called leader just did to get elected? Gee China and Russia, in bed with Trump, hellyeah. Who's agenda is a one party system, the conservatives, look how they been implementing it with their judges...fascists, the new right. I wouldn't be talking about feathering one's nest if I were you.

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Sep 30, 2020 08:18:14   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Are you kidding? What do you think your so called leader just did to get elected? Gee China and Russia, in bed with Trump, hellyeah. Who's agenda is a one party system, the conservatives, look how they been implementing it with their judges...fascists, the new right. I wouldn't be talking about feathering one's nest if I were you.


No, you prefer anarchy.
Along with biden and family profiting from China and Russia.
47 years, how do you think all that wealth is accumulated?
Has biden ever in his life been in business, built anything?

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Sep 30, 2020 08:25:06   #
Cuda2020
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Which planet did you say you were from? I need to remove it from my travel itinerary. I am sure the president could have done better had he not been opposed at every turn by a Democrat House, and had to defend himself against bogus witch hunts for non-existent Russian conspiracies.
He is stealing nothing from Social Security because the Democraps have already stolen everything stealable.
You have a lot of gall to complain about debt when Trump's predecessor, your God King Obama {PRAISE HIM!!}created more debt that every other president in this country's history combined.
The environment has taken no hits. It has actually gotten better. In this you are lying.
Education is the province of the Department of Education. Created by Jimmuh Cahtuh in 1977, the quality of US Education has gone down every year since DoE's creation. You expect Trump to fix in 3 1/2 years what Democrats spent 42 years screwing up?
Oh , yes, the refugees in cages. Those photos were taken in 2012 and 2013. Guess who was president then, Einstein?
Which planet did you say you were from? I need to ... (show quote)


Do you actually comprehend how to get over an economic tanking?(again from the repubs) How do you think that happens, and in reality compared to the last Republican tanking called the great depression Obama spent much less money to recovery then Roosevelt. So your comment; "created more debt that every other president in this country's history combined." is an out right lie, look it up and get facts before you speak.

He got us out of it didn't he, in spite of the sabotaging efforts of the Republican party. So yeah, he damn well does deserve praise. You won't because you're so antiparty, you can't logically think.

Nonexistent Russian conspiracies, yeah right, that's convincing, especially after all the arrests, convictions and testimonies.

I'm lying, what a joke. On the environment, you are so completely misinformed it's ridiculous.
The year 2019 set all sorts of records
Almost 400 all-time high temperatures were set in the northern hemisphere during the summer of 2019.

Records were broken in 29 countries for the period between 1 May and 30 August. A third of the all-time high temperatures were in Germany, followed by France and the Netherlands.

These European records were set amid heatwaves across the continent that sent temperatures soaring in June and July.
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46384067

Where have the Dems stolen SS, more propaganda BS, meanwhile the conservatives keep trying to get their hands on it. Remember Bush's plan to put it into the stock market, this was before the crash, thank god, it never materialized, just wishful thinking for the corporate party who are in the stock market.

Einstein, what happened in 2012 was a mishap, NOT a SET POLICY as with Trump/Pence. Got it.

Education, he didn't have enough time, yeah I guess campaigning since he got there and golfing really crunched his time on the business of the US, like education. So tell me what did his appointed person De Vos do?

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Sep 30, 2020 08:42:39   #
Cuda2020
 
America 1 wrote:
No, you prefer anarchy.
Along with biden and family profiting from China and Russia.
47 years, how do you think all that wealth is accumulated?
Has biden ever in his life been in business, built anything?


Biden has always served where he thought he could have the largest impact to help the people, especially for the love of his own hometown, New Castle, Delaware. He was elected to the U.S. Senate from Delaware in 1972, becoming the sixth-youngest senator in American history and was reelected six times, guess his people liked him, whereas Trump's home town, he didn't get the vote, LOL There's his sign buddy.

What is Trump, he's not a winner, he's a cheater, that's how he gets what he wants, he cheats college students, cancer patients, campaigning, and taxes. He's a "L" The only way he wins is to cheat.

There's nothing wrong with mail in ballots, Trump is only busy creating doubt in our own system. He's probably the one who gave orders to steal his votes and put them in them in the garbage...and then find them, just to say "SEE LOOK WHAT"S HAPPENING! yeah riiiiight.

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