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Sep 16, 2020 16:24:06   #
WEBCO
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Just how many people died as trump protected us by lying ,he says because he didn't want people to panic ok, let's look at it another way and ask yourself why he would make statements like these .

It's another democratic hoax

It's just like a cold few days it will be gone

No diferent than the flu

We only have 15 cases and those will probably be gone in a week

Everything is fine we have it under control

There were many other statements such as these.

All the while he said these things he knew this virus was supper deadly, till this very day he continues to play this down give out phoney information.
Trump will not even follow his own guidelines nor the CDC and continues to hold large gatherings without trying social distance or masks.
It will be both sad and interesting in a few weeks as the virus takes hold once again because of this irresponsible behavior.
Just how many people died as trump protected us by... (show quote)


So...how many people died because Bob Woodward kept silent for 7 months?

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Sep 16, 2020 16:53:29   #
Larry Joe
 
proud republican wrote:
https://youtu.be/emyNXZ8v8sY


Lonelywolf, please respond to her YouTube video. How many people did these Democrats kill? It is obvious that no one had any idea of what the effects of Covid19 would be. Nearly everyone, scientists and politicians alike assumed it it was similar to the flu and would go away in warm weather. Politically pointing fingers at each other is counterproductive and serves only to further divide the country.
Larry Joe

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Sep 16, 2020 17:14:38   #
Larry Joe
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Good video but may I remind you at the time they didn't know what trump knew about the virus you see that's the problum.


And FDR was warned of a Japanese attack ahead of Dec 7th, yet neither Hawaii or the Philippines were warned ahead of the attacks. Do I blame FDR? No. Do I blame Trump? No. Hindsight is always 20/20. And with such hindsight, both Presidents would have reacted differently. They both responded with the best knowledge they had at the time. They were both wrong and that simply means they were and are human. Let’s just hope that in next several months we have better treatment and a vaccine. And stop the Blame Game.
Larry Joe

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Sep 16, 2020 17:34:11   #
Larry Joe
 
EmilyD wrote:
It IS a Democratic hoax.

Flu viruses DO resemble cold viruses. Some strains are stronger than others....and some peoples' symptoms of the virus were so mild, they didn't even know they were sick.

The corona virus IS a flu virus - how can it be different than the flu??? (Makes no sense)

At the time, there WERE only 15 cases...and they WERE gone in a week.

Everything is fine. There is no crisis. It's all a hoax to try to get rid of Trump.....AGAIN.

The virus is not super deadly, it is risky for elderly people and people who have co-morbidity issues already. (Notice I said they are "at risk" not "about to die") therefore no one, including Trump, could play down something that is not "deadly" to begin with. (The Bubonic plague is deadly. A flu virus is not.)

Trump gets tested daily. Those are the guidelines that the CDC set for President Trump. And he is following them routinely every day.

The people who attend Trump's rallies are adults. They have the right to choose for themselves whether they want to wear a mask or not. What they CHOOSE to do has nothing to do with Trump.

Several viruses WILL become part of life during the coming months, years and decades - as has been the case for the past many years and decades. Nothing new there.

The only difference between a flu during past years, and the flu this year is that it is an election year and Democrats are trying to blame Trump for this China virus. Just like they're trying to blame him for the fires in California, the hurricanes that blow into our coasts, the tornadoes that storm across our prairies and just about anything else they can think of to blame him for.

There is a month and a half to go to election day....let's see what they come up with next. It should be amusing...again.
It IS a Democratic hoax. br br Flu viruses DO res... (show quote)


Emily, as a conservative and Trump voter, I seriously disagree with the statement that the Covid19 is a hoax. There is no question that Covid19 can be very deadly, especially to the elderly and those with preexisting medical problems. The number of deaths attributed to the virus by the CDC is nearing 200,000 in the U.S. we can’t be sure if the virus itself killed them or if it simply helped the preexisting condition kill the individual. What we know is that those are dead. As I suggested to Lonelywolf, stop making this a Political Game. Let’s try to unite the country and not further divide it.
Larry Joe

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Sep 16, 2020 18:29:05   #
peg w
 
The flu virus, cold virus and Sars 2 (covid 19) are different species. Covid 19 is a Corona virus. One type of cold virus is a corona virus which is related to Covid 19. Most of us have had a Corona virus cold. Covid 19 has a one percent death rate. However, it causes perminent damage to twenty percent of its victims, weather you have shown symptoms or not. Do you want to mess with these stats?

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Sep 16, 2020 18:32:24   #
EmilyD
 
Larry Joe wrote:
Emily, as a conservative and Trump voter, I seriously disagree with the statement that the Covid19 is a hoax. There is no question that Covid19 can be very deadly, especially to the elderly and those with preexisting medical problems. The number of deaths attributed to the virus by the CDC is nearing 200,000 in the U.S. we can’t be sure if the virus itself killed them or if it simply helped the preexisting condition kill the individual. What we know is that those are dead. As I suggested to Lonelywolf, stop making this a Political Game. Let’s try to unite the country and not further divide it.
Larry Joe
Emily, as a conservative and Trump voter, I seriou... (show quote)


Larry Joe: The VIRUS is not the hoax. The hoax is the way the Democrats are using it to try to blame Trump for it...blaming him for deaths from it and for trying to sway the election because of it. This country is more divided now than any recent times because of what the left is doing. They won't work with Trump in any way. They stonewall him at every turn. He tries to build a wall, get together with the Dems to work out a health care plan, and on and on. And they blatantly refuse to work with him. They are rioting and looting in every state in the country now. Their hatred gets in the way of getting things done for Americans!! And then they turn around and say HE is ruining the country!

Just watch the video of Nancy Pelosi tearing up Trump's State of the Union address in front of him and the whole world, or watch the impeachment hearings where they wouldn't let Republicans ask questions, or even the impeachment trial itself in the Senate... It was all about hatred of Trump. Read what leftist posters right here on OPP are saying about our President causing people to die from a virus! Watch and read these things again, and maybe you will understand why I say this about the Democrats.

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Sep 16, 2020 18:38:07   #
peg w
 
It may be true that the people who go to Trump rallys are adults, but it would be unthinkable to fire a gun into the croud st a rally. Why then, do you let people infect other?

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Sep 16, 2020 19:32:29   #
WEBCO
 
peg w wrote:
It may be true that the people who go to Trump rallys are adults, but it would be unthinkable to fire a gun into the croud st a rally. Why then, do you let people infect other?


Why do you let riots and looting go on night after night? The rally is a peaceful protest against Marxism.

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Sep 16, 2020 19:48:44   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 

Wrong answer.

What did president Trump do in March when he realized that state and city governments were totally unprepared and their responses were political rather than based on medical science?

Now, let's see if we can clear up the confusion over Covid the Virus and Covid the Hoax.

President Trump is aware, we are aware, who isn't aware, of the fact that Covid the Virus is a potentially lethal virus and it is killing people. We are also aware that, unlike some viral strains, Covid-19 cannot kill every host it infects - it is lethal to those with pre-existing health conditions.

Children and healthy adults under 50 are in far less danger than are the elderly or who have diabetes, heart conditions, weak immune systems, and particularly those with respiratory failures or lung cancer. In fact, between February and August this year, 45 children with pre-existing health problems died of Covid infection. In the same period, seasonal flu killed 105 children, and this is out of 13,000 children who died of all causes.

When president Trump spoke about a "covid hoax", he was not talking about Covid the Virus, he was referring to the leftist media hyping the threat into a political agenda and spreading irrational fear throughout the country - the Covid the Hoax.

Holding president Trump accountable for even one Covid death is wicked political propaganda.

I'll tell ya this, every time I hear DINO politicians, media sycophants, Soviet apparatchiks, and their collective mass of fear mongered minions accusing president Trump of mass murder, I wanna tear their guts out and jam 'em down their filthy lying throats. You people are friggin toxic, man.

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Sep 16, 2020 21:42:28   #
Larry Joe
 
EmilyD wrote:
Larry Joe: The VIRUS is not the hoax. The hoax is the way the Democrats are using it to try to blame Trump for it...blaming him for deaths from it and for trying to sway the election because of it. This country is more divided now than any recent times because of what the left is doing. They won't work with Trump in any way. They stonewall him at every turn. He tries to build a wall, get together with the Dems to work out a health care plan, and on and on. And they blatantly refuse to work with him. They are rioting and looting in every state in the country now. Their hatred gets in the way of getting things done for Americans!! And then they turn around and say HE is ruining the country!

Just watch the video of Nancy Pelosi tearing up Trump's State of the Union address in front of him and the whole world, or watch the impeachment hearings where they wouldn't let Republicans ask questions, or even the impeachment trial itself in the Senate... It was all about hatred of Trump. Read what leftist posters right here on OPP are saying about our President causing people to die from a virus! Watch and read these things again, and maybe you will understand why I say this about the Democrats.
Larry Joe: The VIRUS is not the hoax. The hoax is ... (show quote)


I understand your frustration, I feel the same. I just try not to get down to their level and hatred. For this country to survive, we are going to have work together. I call on both sides to stop the hatred.
Larry Joe

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Sep 17, 2020 10:01:01   #
peg w
 
This is the way I see it Germany has a population of 84 million , about a quarter of our 3,300,000. They had 9.5 hundred deaths.we had 197, 000 deaths. 9, 500x4 =38000 subtracted from 197, 000 is 169, 000 deaths that could have been prevented had Trump acted in Jan as a reasonable and responsible person. And he's still doing it about a possible vaccine which won't be available for at least 9 mounths

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Sep 17, 2020 10:03:34   #
peg w
 
What about the Kurds that Trump abandoned when he pulled out of Syria at Putin's request ? How many of them are dead?

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Sep 17, 2020 10:07:21   #
EmilyD
 
peg w wrote:
This is the way I see it Germany has a population of 84 million , about a quarter of our 3,300,000. They had 9.5 hundred deaths.we had 197, 000 deaths. 9, 500x4 =38000 subtracted from 197, 000 is 169, 000 deaths that could have been prevented had Trump acted in Jan as a reasonable and responsible person. And he's still doing it about a possible vaccine which won't be available for at least 9 mounths


What is "our 3,300,000"?

The population in the US is approx. 328,000,000.

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Sep 17, 2020 18:39:05   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
peg w wrote:
What about the Kurds that Trump abandoned when he pulled out of Syria at Putin's request ? How many of them are dead?


Literally no one cares...

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