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Sep 11, 2020 08:16:29   #
Rose42
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Those who support it are allowing a woman to masked her own life's decision. It not a decision anyone else should be allowed to make.


What those who support this depravity forget is its not just "her" life or "her" body. The vast majority of abortions are for convenience. Innocent lives needlessly snuffed out.

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Sep 11, 2020 08:35:24   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
Rose42 wrote:
No, we've been moving backwards longer than that. Trump isn't the disease, he is just a symptom of the disease. Fox News isn't the problem - ALL the MSM is a problem.


So your answer is "no news", or only need from "trusted" sources? That's called censorship.

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Sep 11, 2020 08:36:18   #
Rose42
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
So your answer is "no news", or only need from "trusted" sources? That's called censorship.


That's not what I said. Or even implied.

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Sep 11, 2020 09:08:22   #
tNotMyPrez Loc: So. CA, USA
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Trump was a die hard Democrat until, what 2014? Then when he was in his 60s, he suddenly had an epiphany and voilΓ‘, like a butterfly, he's reborn as a die hard Republican? Or the reality is that you are being conned by one of the best. Yeah, your being conned.

I'm not sure you meant to quote me, but I'm sure you don't mean me - - I'm guessing you meant "you're being conned" in the general sense regarding the people to whom I was speaking - - I'm not being conned. I already knew what you wrote about Trump - - he is a flip-flopper for his own purposes. He simply wanted to win and he knew he couldn't win as a Democrat, so prest-o change-o, he rebrands himself as a Republican. Just more of his lying, cheating, narcissistic, serial adulterering ways.

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Sep 11, 2020 09:11:48   #
tNotMyPrez Loc: So. CA, USA
 
Rose42 wrote:
What those who support this depravity forget is its not just "her" life or "her" body. The vast majority of abortions are for convenience. Innocent lives needlessly snuffed out.

And therein is the problem - - no one can know the intimate details of someone's life and make that decision for them. It's none of anyone's business except the woman's and what her mind and tell her.

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Sep 11, 2020 09:14:10   #
Rose42
 
tNotMyPrez wrote:
And therein is the problem - - no one can know the intimate details of someone's life and make that decision for them. It's none of anyone's business except the woman's and what her mind and tell her.


Its the business of the innocent life involved who has no voice. The statistics on abortions being mostly for convenience come from a pro abortion site - the Guttmacher institute.

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Sep 11, 2020 09:53:42   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
debeda wrote:
I dont need to change your mind, nor am I patronizing you. I do, however, feel that your mindset, and the mindset of those of your like mind, are degrading civilization and taking us down a barbaric and regressive path.


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Sep 11, 2020 10:00:41   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
tNotMyPrez wrote:
And therein is the problem - - no one can know the intimate details of someone's life and make that decision for them. It's none of anyone's business except the woman's and what her mind and tell her.


What about the child inside?
No empathy there?
What’s wrong with you?

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Sep 11, 2020 11:14:19   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
This time, the choice is between one decent candidate (Biden) and one that's corrupt (Trump). I've spelled out out for you because I know you often close your eyes tio the awful reality of trump.


Corrupt and Biden are synonymous.

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Sep 11, 2020 11:18:14   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
tNotMyPrez wrote:
And therein is the problem - - no one can know the intimate details of someone's life and make that decision for them. It's none of anyone's business except the woman's and what her mind and tell her.


It is others business when others are paying for her irresponsibility.
Many ways to prevent pregnancy.
With a little more education you may realize that.

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Sep 11, 2020 11:52:30   #
debeda
 
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Well, I guess we can agree on one thing, and that is that the system is broken.

But tRump's idea of fixing stuff with what I see as Fascism and Dictatorship it's completely abhorrent and unacceptable to me, and many of my ilk.

I'm a humanist and what today would be in favor of social democracy, and I have been such since my early teenage years. I've studied religion, history and politics for 60 more years and believe I've made an intelligent choice not to waiver. That doesn't mean that I haven't been criticized or denigrated for my beliefs, and that's okay, but I continue to assert my position. Surely, I'm not the only who feels this way, but all of us have a right to our own thoughts, philosophies and motivations.
Well, I guess we can agree on one thing, and that ... (show quote)


Yes, we can agree. Except that I see the dem side as moving toward facism and dictatorship. Even to the point of cancelling free speech. Just a question - if President Trump were a facist and a dictator, would the news services have been allowed to denigrate and (in some cases) lie about him with impunity? Or another question - who gets attacked for stating their political affiliation? Not Democrats, they are free to speak - or howl to the heavens if their little hearts desire. Conservatives are fired from long time positions (several college professors come to mind, as did entertainers), deplatformed, assaulted on the streets, and college students are even given failing grades for having dissenting opinions. That sounds a whole lot like facism and dictatorship to me. And it's all coming from the left...

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Sep 11, 2020 11:54:15   #
debeda
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Deb, you should read rose's post about propaganda. There are very few proven cases of voter fraud. Trump & his cheerleaders have pushed the idea of voter fraud because he dislikes the number of popular votes he received.


It's a fact that LA county had 130% of registered voters vote. As that is impossible without fraud, well....

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Sep 11, 2020 11:56:00   #
debeda
 
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Well, I don't know. I hope you can see that our definitions are different.

I think we've made significant progress in the last 70 years in humanism, planetary environment and animal welfare. And I see that being completely stripped away by a man who not only he himself, but someone who is using the system to pander to his base for his own benefit, encouraging hatred over the fact that Obama had the nerve to be president while black.

And it's not just tRump, who wasn't even in the political picture when Obama was elected. But the Pubs were, and if you remember, they announced from the very beginning that they were going to do everything they could to disturb anything he tried to do as president. And they did. They sowed dissension and more or less silently supported the racists...

...but TRump, never one not to capitalize on an opportunity, seized on the vocal minority and gave them permission to be even more obnoxious. And they have been throughout his campaign, and his 44 months reign of stupidity and terror, undoing almost every modern advancement made in those last 70 years that appealed to me and many others, and seating lifetime appointments on the federal and Supreme Court benches that will continue to cause disarray for the next 30 or 40 years.

The lack of balance is definitely another symptom and result of a broken system. The biggest problem I see is the conservs being willing to return to the Dark Ages by strict interpretation of the Constitution, whereas I see the Constitution as a living document that must move on as people change - - a thought that is completely unacceptable to the right. The result, the consequence, is that things have become so polarized that nobody can talk to one another or allow for any compromises. It's pretty disgusting down in the trenches.
Well, I don't know. I hope you can see that our de... (show quote)


In my opinion things really polarized under the Obama administration. And the left didn't like it when a pause was put on the instituting of radical policies.

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Sep 11, 2020 12:00:08   #
debeda
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Those who support it are allowing a woman to masked her own life's decision. It not a decision anyone else should be allowed to make.


So barbarism should be a choice? I listened to the Virginia governor's speech when they signed late/full term abortion into law. I spent the whole next day crying and throwing up. It is a disgusting, filthy thing. When he commented on how the infants are "made comfortable" until the mother decides whether to let them live or not is when I started vomiting. Look up his speech, one of the most barbaric and disgusting things ever all wrapped up in a calming voice. Disgusting.

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Sep 11, 2020 12:07:14   #
debeda
 
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Well, I don't know. I hope you can see that our definitions are different.

I think we've made significant progress in the last 70 years in humanism, planetary environment and animal welfare. And I see that being completely stripped away by a man who not only he himself, but someone who is using the system to pander to his base for his own benefit, encouraging hatred over the fact that Obama had the nerve to be president while black.

And it's not just tRump, who wasn't even in the political picture when Obama was elected. But the Pubs were, and if you remember, they announced from the very beginning that they were going to do everything they could to disturb anything he tried to do as president. And they did. They sowed dissension and more or less silently supported the racists...

...but TRump, never one not to capitalize on an opportunity, seized on the vocal minority and gave them permission to be even more obnoxious. And they have been throughout his campaign, and his 44 months reign of stupidity and terror, undoing almost every modern advancement made in those last 70 years that appealed to me and many others, and seating lifetime appointments on the federal and Supreme Court benches that will continue to cause disarray for the next 30 or 40 years.

The lack of balance is definitely another symptom and result of a broken system. The biggest problem I see is the conservs being willing to return to the Dark Ages by strict interpretation of the Constitution, whereas I see the Constitution as a living document that must move on as people change - - a thought that is completely unacceptable to the right. The result, the consequence, is that things have become so polarized that nobody can talk to one another or allow for any compromises. It's pretty disgusting down in the trenches.
Well, I don't know. I hope you can see that our de... (show quote)


Some things were progress over the last 70 years. There are many things that are better. But there are also many things that are far worse. A friend in Baltimore (who is a staunch leftist) and I were having a catch up conversation recently. And one of the things we completely agreed on was that common human decency is waning. She put it best. She said "There were always criminals, and punks, and gangs. But there were unwritten laws, and one of the strongest was kids, pregnant women and the elderly were not to be touched. These latest groups TARGET those groups, and that just makes them bullies and mindless thugs." That was a point we were in complete agreement about.

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