November 3rd, 2020
Sep 10, 2020 15:04:01 #
tNotMyPrez wrote:
I disagree, Rose - - the problem is, people who seem to be unable to think for themselves. No one should be told what to think. I know that I am not, but the Righties love to tell me that I'm led by the MSM. On the other side of the coin, I have often referred to Pulpit Wisdom. There are far too many people, particularly in the religious movements, who don't seem to have their own thoughts.
No one is immune to propaganda. No one - right, left and all shades in between. Everyone believes they think for themselves but are susceptible to the propaganda put out by whatever side they're on. We are constantly being told what to think by the media and our elected officials. That doesn't mean we can't but it makes it more challenging to sift through what is real and what is not.
You're wrong about religion in my experience - Christianity anyway. Its not the role of the pastor to tell people what to think. He is a teacher and people make up their own minds. Doubtless there are those who believe what they're told without question but that's true in all walks of life.
Sep 10, 2020 15:08:48 #
Rose42 wrote:
No one is immune to propaganda. No one - right, l... (show quote)
Yeah Rose, we've had discourse on that topic before - - it serves no purpose. You and I will never agree until the end of time, which could be tomorrow or not for another 50,000 years, 65 million or or or...
Sep 10, 2020 17:14:29 #
tNotMyPrez wrote:
The "actual" majority is who voted for Hillary thee million times more than Donald.
Yep. That was mostly the 130% of registered voters who turned out in LA County
Sep 10, 2020 17:31:14 #
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Yeah Rose, we've had discourse on that topic before - - it serves no purpose. You and I will never agree until the end of time, which could be tomorrow or not for another 50,000 years, 65 million or or or...
Of course I forgot. You alone are immune to propaganda.
Sep 10, 2020 18:03:29 #
Rose42 wrote:
Of course I forgot. You alone are immune to propaganda.
Isn't it hilarious, Rose. The left are all parrots, but don't have clue one that they've been hoodwinked by wordsmiths and propaganda pushers
Like illegal aliens. That's what they were properly labeled. Then the left decided they were illegal immigrants. Then undocumented immigrants (cuz no person is illegal
) and now undocumented citizens. Outrage, prime, progress to idiocy. And the band plays on Sep 10, 2020 19:55:49 #
debeda wrote:
Yep. That was mostly the 130% of registered voters who turned out in LA County
Talk about listening to propaganda. Good grief...hopeless.
Sep 10, 2020 20:21:24 #
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Talk about listening to propaganda. Good grief...hopeless.
Yes, you are. I'm sorryđ„
Sep 10, 2020 20:45:12 #
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Maybe it's intentional, because it usually provokes fist fights, but you left abortion off your list. It's only a very vocal minority, mostly of the religious persuasion, who want to codify a woman's inability to be able to make decisions regarding her own body.
The issue of abortion is a complete manipulation to get people on their party, they really don't care. You never, ever... give that power to the government what they can decide what people are *allowed* to do with their body, you might as well sell your life, and sell your soul while you're at it.
Sep 10, 2020 20:53:36 #
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Talk about listening to propaganda. Good grief...hopeless.
They drench themselves in it.
Sep 10, 2020 21:02:16 #
Barracuda2020 wrote:
The issue of abortion is a complete manipulation to get people on their party, they really don't care. You never, ever... give that power to the government what they can decide what people are *allowed* to do with their body, you might as well sell your life, and sell your soul while you're at it.
Yes that's very true. And it has been MY truth since I was 13 years old and my older sister's best friend, someone whom I liked very much, died from a coat hanger abortion. I had a very rigid mother who believed that Peggy deserved to die because she wasn't "a good girl". So my decisions and beliefs about this subject, and others, are from personal experience, critical thinking and philosophical examination, not from any MSM or other propaganda. But it matters not to the Right/Wing/Cons/Reps who continue misunderstanding anything said, and twisting their erroneous interpretation to fit it into to their narrow views or meanings. As such, it remains virtually impossible to have a decent, rational, level-headed conversation with most of them. They think they're being glib or brilliant when in fact they are sabotaging any ability to discover what someone's true beliefs or real motivations are.
Sep 10, 2020 21:03:37 #
Barracuda2020 wrote:
The issue of abortion is a complete manipulation to get people on their party, they really don't care. You never, ever... give that power to the government what they can decide what people are *allowed* to do with their body, you might as well sell your life, and sell your soul while you're at it.
Late/full term abortion is an abomination to humanity. Those that support it are insane. IMHO
Sep 10, 2020 21:35:01 #
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Yes that's very true. And it has been MY truth sin... (show quote)
Read proverbs 6:16 thru 6:19.
Then tell me what you think.
Sep 10, 2020 21:41:58 #
debeda wrote:
Late/full term abortion is an abomination to humanity. Those that support it are insane. IMHO
If it's not YOUR body, YOU don't know, and it SHOULDN'T be any of YOUR business.
Just because it's become a hot-button topic with anti-abortionists doesn't mean that the statistics bear out the fact that it's almost always medically necessary. If you think it's a simple matter to be pregnant for many months, carrying a child that you can't deliver, and to have to make that decision, then you can't possibly understand why anyone would have the need to do it. It must be a heart-wrenching decision and something that should remain between the woman and her doctor.
Someone's religious precepts, fundamentalist laws and the government should be out of the loop. You need to realize that classifying it as an abomination to humanity doesn't fit the facts. And regardless, it's ought not to be any of your business.
Sep 10, 2020 21:57:57 #
tNotMyPrez wrote:
If it's not YOUR body, YOU don't know, and it SHOU... (show quote)
You donât know what you are saying!
Sep 10, 2020 22:11:25 #
Marty 2020 wrote:
Read proverbs 6:16 thru 6:19.
Then tell me what you think.
Then tell me what you think.
You mean this ???
Proverbs 6:16-19 (NKJV) âThese six things the Lord hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him: A proud look, A lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood, A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that are swift in running to evil, A false witness who speaks lies, And one who sows discord among brethren.â
Well here's what I think Marty. You can quote the bible as much as you want, but if you don't admit that there are many precepts written in there that AREN'T followed, then you are lying to yourself and trying to lie to others who know better.Religious folk can't cherry-pick the rules they want to follow and then push them down anyone else's throat.
That said, I also believe that NOTHING in the hindu vedas, the buddhist tripitaka, the hebrew torah, the christian bible, the muslim koran, the book of mormon, the scientology dianetics, the pastafarian recipes, etc etc etc, ought to be the basis of anything codified into modern law.
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