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Common_Sense_Matters

You may as well give up, the Trump supporters that remain will NEVER acknowledge ANYTHING not pro-Trump, anything "anti-trump" is ALL "fake news", Trump IS the second coming of Christ, Trump good, Obama, Democrats, Democracy bad, progress bad. According to Trump supporters, even true, dyed in the wool Republicans with even a smidgen of integrity that don't fully back Trump, they are traitors or "rinos".

How do you expect that sort of person to listen to any reason or even to acknowledge any actual facts or truths? Those Republicans that have integrity and DO NOT ignore facts, they have long since distanced themselves from Trump. Some have even put the Republican party in their rear view mirror as they see that the Republican party has morphed from being the Republican party to merely being the Trump party.

Rose42

They have but if they’re smart they won’t be joining the democrat party - they will be independent of any party. Democrats are amazingly blind to what their party is doing to this country. Reminds me exactly of how some defend anything Trump does.

cbpat1

Just keep yappin! Everyone is a racist with you. The word has no meaning anymore, because if someone disagrees with you, you automatically call them a racist. That’s the only way you know how to make your case, is to call people racist. At least it doesn’t take much imagination, or intelligence.

Common_Sense_Matters

I can understand your objection to abortion, I too have issues with an indiscriminate "abortion for all" stance that the right seems to attribute to ALL Democrats, never,mind the fact that not ALL Democrats favor "infanticide". I can even understand people being against the GND as it is touted by the alt right, the way they describe it, very scary indeed. The way the alt right claims that universal healthcare will mean "geriatricide", who would really want that? Perhaps if we did our own research, maybe we wouldn't be so terrified of some of the proposals that the left would like to examine, perhaps it will be just as scary or scarier than we initially thought it would be, we will never know until we step back from the propaganda machine and examine the proposals for ourselves from the most direct source, NOT from information provided by a source that wishes to sway personal opinion.

How many geriatrics died as a result of Obama's ACA? How great of a dip in abortion rates have we seen during previous Republican presidents terms? How great were the spikes each time a Democrat took office? Is reducing pollution really that bad?

Rose42

The GND is something that needs to be well thought out rather than being slapped together quick to give the appearance of doing something. I am in favor of moving to renewables but those who write these bills forget the average Joe who can’t afford it. We are already so deep in debt we can’t pay it off. This can’t be rushed for political points. Republicans have to get more incolved.

Healthcare needs more work. What blocks meaningful reform is each party wants to be the one to say ‘we did that’. They neglect to put us first. And get rid of big pharma lobbyists. Their interest is in profit not curing anything. Their costs are unconscionable.

Abortion is something I will never compromise on. But IMO the battle is not with government but the hearts of individuals. Abortion rates have been going down. From a high of 1.3 million in a year to around 800,000 just in the US. Still abysmally high.

GmanTerry

I know the electric utility business. I have worked for the largest public utility in Arizona and then the Federal utility, the USDOE. It all started during the Bush II presidency. W, was put in office by energy row in Huston to deregulate the electric utility industry. If it had proceeded as planned we would be presently paying more for electric power than we spend on our mortgages.
The thing that saved us, believe it or not, was the 911 attack in New York. That mess derailed the deregulation movement long enough for Enron to explode. Enron exposed the corruption in buying and selling electric power. People went to prison and the big plan to deregulate was stopped with the changes made up to that point. I was told by a high ranking government manager that deregulation of a utility that connects directionally to your home is insane. The utility owns everything, the transmission, the distribution, the meter at your house and all connecting wiring. How can anyone provide you with significantly cheaper energy when you have to pay to maintain all the infrastructure already coming to your house which is a significant part of your monthly bill. You may save a couple of pennies per Kwh but there is zero room for any significant savings. I don't know of anyone who buys their electricity from Southern Cal Edison or Consolidated Edison. The farther the source of 2nd party electricity is, the more you are going to have to pay to have it transported over other distribution systems. That will eat up the pennies savings. It's a lose, lose situation.
California is having rolling blackouts because they shut dow their peaking energy sources like gas turbines and replace them with windmills and solar. Neither of these green energy sources can supply emergency power. The way to provide green peaking power would be huge battery banks. Very expensive and very not green. Green energy with some gas turbines and you have emergency power for emergencies. Technology does not presently exist to ban all fossil fuel generators. If the Green new Deal is implemented we will all be having rolling blackouts across the county. No reserve power for heat wave and other emergencies. For some areas, turning the power off for hours when the temperature is 110 to 120 degrees will become death by electric utility. People will die, especially the elderly.

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