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Aug 31, 2020 15:02:00   #
Larry Joe
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
God, the Eternal Creator, created physics, chemistry, mathematics and gave us science to discover what He's given us. In short, God created science. We err when we put the cart before the horse.


I agree. God has given mankind the intellectual ability to help the species or destroy the species through science, and it is a race to see who wins. God gave mankind free will to do either.
Larry Joe

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Aug 31, 2020 15:03:41   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Auntie Dee wrote:
Science created the Covid-19 Virus, but is is Politics that has exaggerated it way beyond any rationality! Now the latest statistics out of the CDC show us just how big the POLITICAL HOAX about Covid-19 is!! Less than 9700 people have died as the virus being the SOLE CAUSE of their deaths! The other 94% of the 183,000 reported deaths had 2 or more other causes that contributed to their deaths!

The way in which the REPORTING of this virus was done created the POLITICAL HOAX perpetuated on this nation and around the world!! The 2019-2020 FLU season in the US reported 24,000 to 62,000 deaths, MUCH MORE than Covid-19!!!

We don't need to stay home, we don't need wear a mask, we don't need to be constantly tested, we don't need to keep 6-ft away from other people, we don't need lock-downs, our children need to go to school and this country needs to get back to work! If and when a vaccine is developed, take at your own risk! It most likely will not be anymore effective that a flu-shot is today! We do not need to live in fear!!!
Science created the Covid-19 Virus, but is is Poli... (show quote)
Science did not create the coronavirus, it was first identified 55 years ago. There are 7 strains of coronavirus that are lethal to humans.

A genomic analyses conducted by an international research team, partly supported by NIH has revealed two possibilities for the origin of Covid-19:

1) It evolved in its natural hosts, possibly bats or pangolins, its spike proteins mutated to bind to molecules similar in structure to the human ACE2 protein, thereby enabling it to infect human cells,

and 2) the new coronavirus crossed from animals into humans before it became capable of causing human disease. Then, as a result of gradual evolutionary changes over years or perhaps decades, the virus eventually gained the ability to spread from human-to-human and cause serious, often life-threatening disease.

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Aug 31, 2020 15:05:31   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
MeadowFields wrote:
We need both! Science has extended life and made some chores easier to accomplish and has shrunk the world to a degree where we are all connected instantly. Good science offers methods and technology that are proven effective and work almost all the time. It keeps on improving and offering its enlightenment so all life on earth can survive with more free time available for other human pursuits.
But science hasn't even begun to scratch the surface of all the mysteries of the universe that was created by an omniscient and living G-D who can produce invisible pathogens to humble us and reveal how little we know even with all of our Hi Tech prowess. The living G-D has given us instructions on how to treat all living matter and not be wasteful and selfish and exploitative. We need to take heed and follow His/Her commandments.
We need both! Science has extended life and made ... (show quote)



Please divulge where you got the idea that the Creator is a female.

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Aug 31, 2020 15:10:32   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Bad Bob wrote:
You believe the lying POS trump?


Do not believe you.

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Aug 31, 2020 15:15:45   #
Larry Joe
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The statement that science is the only way to truth contradicts itself because the statement has no basis in science.

In the first pico-second of the Big Bang, all the laws of nature and science came into existence. We didn't make 'em up, all we can do is discover them.

All things that exist have a cause,
the universe exists,
therefore the universe has a cause.

The universe has a cause for its existence,
life exists in the universe,
therefore life has a cause.

A cause for something to exist implies a purpose for its existence,
the universe and life were caused to exist,
therefore, the universe and life have a purpose.

A purpose for something to exist implies an intelligence defined the purpose,
the universe and life have a purpose,
therefore the intelligence that caused the universe and life to exist had a purpose.

There are five disciplines that must be applied to realizing the truth.

Metaphysics - the branch of philosophy that deals with first principles, abstract concepts such as being, knowing, substance, cause, identity, time and space.

Epistemology - the theory of knowledge with regard to its methods, validity and scope. The investigation of what distinguishes justified belief from opinion.

Ethics - the branch of knowledge that deals with moral principles.

Anthropology - the study of human societies and cultures, their development. The study of human biological and physiological characteristics and their evolution.

Theology - the study of God and religious beliefs and theories when systematically developed.


Leave any one of these out and no cigar.

The Privileged Planet utilizes stunning computer animation, interviews with leading scientists, and spectacular images of Earth and the cosmos, to explore a startling connection between our capacity to survive and our ability to observe and understand the universe.

Is this correlation merely a coincidence? Or does it point to a deeper truth about purpose and intelligent design within the cosmos? THE PRIVILEGED PLANET is based on the book with the same title by Jay Richards and Guillermo Gonzalez. Production began in October 2002 and was completed in June 2004. The documentary presents the Richards/Gonzalez hypothesis that the Earth was designed to both sustain complex life and enable scientific discovery.
The statement that science is the only way to trut... (show quote)


Well written, thanks
Larry Joe

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Aug 31, 2020 15:38:14   #
Abel
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
More of your dead from the neck up logic!


What's your problem? Trolls don't have a right to their opinions? Some might say you're a troll, since you don't think the way they do. Even Kevyn has been correct once or twice.

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Aug 31, 2020 15:46:33   #
green apples Loc: Scottsdale, Az
 
Then God created Covid? And all science is Good? WRONG!
GOD created the Heaven and Earth....Day and Night...LIFE.....and everything GOOD. COVID is NOT GOOD!! Scientists created Covid in a lab in China! Politicians weaponized it.
You have been duped.

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Aug 31, 2020 16:03:41   #
staedt01
 
Science, at it's base, is the elucidation of how God's mechanisms- electricity / magnetism / nuclear forces / evolution / etc. allow the universe to operate in a consistent fashion, over billions of years - and light years ! If any atheist idiots think the universe is a product of random chance, they should take a good long look at the periodic table, and read Einstein's paper on the distribution of elements in the Universe after the Big Bang - old Albert hasn't been substantially disproven yet ;-}

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Aug 31, 2020 16:08:41   #
Singularity
 
green apples wrote:
Then God created Covid? And all science is Good? WRONG!
GOD created the Heaven and Earth....Day and Night...LIFE.....and everything GOOD. COVID is NOT GOOD!! Scientists created Covid in a lab in China! Politicians weaponized it.
You have been duped.


Isaiah 45:7 KJV
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

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Aug 31, 2020 16:11:45   #
Larry Joe
 
Singularity wrote:
What if you chose the wrong god and worshipping it is just pissing off the real one, over and over.....

Homer Simpson debunked Pascal's wager years ago.

https://youtu.be/dKSuo0zYU8A


There is only one Creator, but I suspect He has many names.
Larry Joe

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Aug 31, 2020 16:20:36   #
Singularity
 
Larry Joe wrote:
There is only one Creator, but I suspect He has many names.
Larry Joe


There is no convincing evidence of any!

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Aug 31, 2020 16:21:34   #
staedt01
 
Singularity couldn't find an event horizon with both hands ;-}

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Aug 31, 2020 16:31:52   #
Larry Joe
 
byronglimish wrote:
Please divulge where you got the idea that the Creator is a female.


Why do people insist on giving the INFINITE Creator FINITE physical characteristics? Male, female; you must be kidding.
Larry Joe

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Aug 31, 2020 16:41:13   #
Singularity
 
staedt01 wrote:
Singularity couldn't find an event horizon with both hands ;-}


Why would I limit myself to hands?

Good afternoon. Did you wish to make a point?

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Aug 31, 2020 16:43:56   #
Carol Kelly
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
I don't think that a bunch of liberal, communist atheists are seeking somehow to hurt religion. First of all, there are no communists in the Democratic Party. A very few call themselves democratic socialists which in no way seeks to start a Marxist revolution. Atheists just want to be left alone, and not persecuted for who they are.
I am a man of faith, but I believe science doesn't clash with the idea of G-d. In fact, science makes G-d far more than the Bible teaches. In the past hundred years our idea of the universe has expanded to infinity. When the Old Testament was first put in writing, G-d was the creator of a tiny universe. Through astro physics and astronomy, we now know that G-d's creations are literally infinite. He lives both in real time and outside our time- space at the same time. He must be a being of infinite reality. Just imagine G-d creating the garden of Eden, and compare it to the natural laws that G-d created in order to create the " multiverse". Science is the study of how G-d does things. If there ever is a third testament, it will be a book of physics.
I don't think that a bunch of liberal, communist a... (show quote)


Are you sure of all this?

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