Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Virginia entered the twenty first century.

Simple Sam Loc: USA

Michael McDaniel, professor at Virginia Commonwealth University.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

This one?

"We did differ in some ways, however. McDaniel set the mean IQ at 100 with a standard deviation of 15 and averaged the mean results from NAEP reading and math scores by state for both the fourth and eighth grades. He also adjusted for the percentage of white children in each state attending non-public schools."

Simple Sam Loc: USA

You asked for source not methodology.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

On grade school students?

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

He's doing the Bob and weave routine.

The inane questions begin shortly.

GmanTerry

Semper Fi

Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA

In the mid 80's my children were part of the ALP (Advance Learning Program.) I watched as they ended this program and put them in classes where slower children had problems learning. What I noticed is that the advance students were held back so they wouldn't get too far ahead of the other students.

This was the beginning of the "Dumbing Down" of students along with giving sports awards to all the participants. The schools didn't want the less talented students to feel like losers..

Eventually the schools started having problems with the faster learners because they would finish their work early and start acting out from their boredom in class. I went to teacher/parent conferences where they would tell me all the problems they were having with my kids. The smart teachers would give my kids extra things to do like office help to keep them busy.

The Dumbing Down of our children...

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Please name the state.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

I had much the same experience in Texas. I was raised here. When I went through school in the 60's, the students in my district were divided by ability. Each grade in each school (there were 5 elementary schools in the district) was divided into an A class, a B class, and a C class, for obvious reasons. The A and B classes each had a teacher. The C classes had the best teachers plus an aid, and usually two or three mom volunteers. The slow learners got lots of individual attention, and all three levels proceeded at more or less the same pace throughout the school year. The slow learners got the help they needed, and all of us graduated at the same time. There were very few drop outs.
When my oldest daughter was in the fourth grade, I believe it was in 1992, an edict came down from the state or federal level that such class division was 'racist' and discriminatory. So all the classes were reordered with the fast learners mixed in with the slow learners, so each class was a so-called 'level playing field'. Everything went down hill from there. The slow ones no longer got the individual attention they needed, and they were (and are) frustrated and unhappy because they feel under constant pressure to keep up. They are in the same class as a number of fast learners, which makes them feel inferior, while the fast learners are bored and held back. A number of 'solutions' have been tried, but have not been successful. The best suggestions were deemed to be discriminatory.
Another example of the 'cure' being worse than the disease.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Must be Texas, wasn't that way here in Virginia. My wife taught college bound students for about 20 years in high school and 5 years remedial reading in elementary.

Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA

Thanks, Randy... I noticed it in the mid 80's when my kids were in Public elementary school. It continued to get worse for them as they got into public high school.

This is where our public schools fail our children... and now our colleges are churning out these programmed sycophants that are awarded when they follow and punished when they question the Liberal Ideology.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

Could be, Bob. I was too busy with 'life' at the time to pay attention to where the mandates came from. The local school districts said they had no choice in the matter. Clearly this wasn't the only problem that has led to the decline and fall of public education, but it was certainly a contributing factor.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Just remember "we love our local control". What did you do about the "problem"?

What proof do you have for your slander?

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

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