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Aug 17, 2020 06:19:28   #
PeterS
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Nothing is credible from china concerning this Coronavirus. They purposely spread it to the US and around the world. In Nov. 2019, 5 million virus infected people were transported from Wuhan to the US and around the world. The most number came to NYC, and big populated cities to infect more people.

Then China only reported to the US early Feb. 2020, when the virus was reported by Chinese doctors to be human to human transmission.
in Nov. 2019. The doctors who spread the news were never to be accounted for again. I think they were killed.

President Trump stopped Chinese entry to US Jan. 30, 2020. Joe Biden and democrats in Congress called president Trump xenophobic.
and had been attacking the president after that.
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I would estimate that the economic damage done to China has been in the trillions. Their position in the world is going to going to decline or remain relatively unchanged so how has it been to their advantage to spread this virus across the world?

Europe fed New York, not China. China's contribution was to the West Coast and relatively light compared to the rest of the country. And Trump only prohibited people of Chinese descent--not Americans, so tens of thousands of people came into this country even though there was a lockdown.

And Trump is xenophobic as is the bulk of the Republican Party. That goes without saying so I am surprised you thought to even bring it up...

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Aug 17, 2020 07:15:39   #
Radiance3
 
PeterS wrote:
You mean like here in Texas where we were shut down by mid-March and then reopened by the end of April and promptly shut down again two weeks later with that damn governor of ours mandating that everyone wear a mask and threatening that he was going to shut the whole GD thing down again if we don't? Is that what your are talking about?

And here are the daily deaths from around the world as of the 15th of this month:

France:18
Australia:14
Spain:11
UK:12
Japan:10
Germany:8
Canada:5
USA:1,120

Most of the countries above started at the same time and with the exception of the US ended at about the same time. The US, of course, ended two weeks before they did and the result was another COVID spike that has resulted in a 1 thousand people plus dying everyday. You complain about the economy but the European economies are all on the mend and able to restart with little threat to the population. Not so with the US with the biggest threat to our schools. In Georgia, where schools have already reopened one district has 1,200 in quarantine, and another district has over 500 in quarantine, and so long as our children are required to go to school this pattern is going to repeat across the nation.

These mayors, as you call them, were trying to do what is right for their citizens and if we had followed their advice for the duration of the outbreak we would have been able to restart all aspects of our economy with little threat to our citizens. As is, because of so many obstanent people we will not be able to fully restart our economy until we have a vaccine that is at least 80% effective else we will just be spinning our wheels continually pushing the virus down the road...

What I find so ironic here is that Trump has been desperate to ignore the virus and if he had just paid attention and had taken it seriously we would likely be with the rest of the world with the death rate very low and cases approaching zero. But instead no other nation can compare to us in terms of cases and the deaths resulting thereof and instead of it almost being over it is going to go on and on until we have someone in charge who will take it seriously and mandate that all of us take it seriously--else it will just keep going on and on...
You mean like here in Texas where we were shut dow... (show quote)

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PeterS, I think you lost track. Don't you know that US has a total population of 331 million?
Population of countries you listed.
Canada 37,782,247
France 65,291,847
Australia 26,648,200
Japan 126,750,000
Spain 46,757,092
England 67,930,780
Germany 83,200,000
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Total 454,360,166.00
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United States 331,000,000

Those whole countries you've reported combined together is 454,360,166.00 .US is 73% of that total population of countries you've listed. The difference of
123,360,166.00 is only 27%.

Those countries are easier to control because of lot lesser population.
You can't rely on China and W.H.O. either cause China is deceptive, and W.H.O. director is a crook follow China whatever it says. China Spread this virus to the US and all over the world by sending 5 million infected people from Wuhan to the US and around the world in Nov. 2019.
Then reported the toxicity on Feb. 2020. US stopped China travel Jan 30th 2020. After that radical DIMS accused the president of xenophobic.

In addition, your figures are made up, and are not reliable. You also don't have a complete data. Anybody could make up a number. An one of them is you.

About the economy, US still controls the whole world. And US dollars has much risen its value, while the rest of their monetary system of world countries had shrunk. The problem we have are all cities run under radical DIMS mayors are all rotten, with anarchists destroying the whole city structure and your Antifa and BLM armies have damaged the whole system killing each other and most victims are their own black people. Why do they kill each other? They also kill the White people from infant to grandmas. They burn the Holy Bible wrapped with the US flag. Those are your people. And your mayors allow them. They, your radical mayors call them 1st Amendment rights for killing people.

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Aug 17, 2020 08:21:16   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
PeterS wrote:
Gosh, Peewee. I was told by you cons that this was just a liberal ploy where liberals from all over were going to ignore the Coronavirus just as soon as the election was over. Is that not true? Is this not just a great big hoax perpetrated by the liberals all so we can steal the election from the great and wonderful Donald J Trump???


That's very true!

Red states asked people to do certain things, like masks, social distance, etc. But Blue states totally violated people's rights to make a living, go to school, and worship. Not allowed by the supreme law of the land under our Constitution.

Our rights come from God, not man. Then they imposed finds on people who wanted to reopen their businesses and go to Church. Dem Gov's don't make law. They just enforce them. You can't do that by defunding the police. Another objective was in play, like control of the people, and CV was the excuse.

You can disagree, but you can't mandate it unless the legislature passes a law. Executive power isn't enough. They were violating the law by trying to do so. Even then, it would be illegal. We the people created the government, the government didn't create us. We the people hold the title to the USA not our government.

I know you don't recognize God's authority but when the Constitution was written, most did. Most still do. Atheists are not the majority, yet. In Nov. you will discover that. Carry on my wayward friend. The path your on only leads to destruction. And that's clear to most Americans watching Antifa and BLM loot and destroy.

Not my fault you guys exposed yourself and the hand you were playing. Americans have been Red pilled. Our eyes are open wide and we're taking notice of what the left is all about. Total control and the enslavement of the American people. Time to show your party the exit door. Your unfit to be our Reps. You violated our Rights and the Constitution. You got to go. Peaceably, or by force. You didn't stay within the lines of common decency or the law of the land. Your toast! Public opinion has spoken. The election will put it in writting. Your fired!

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Aug 17, 2020 09:28:56   #
Radiance3
 
PeterS wrote:
I would estimate that the economic damage done to China has been in the trillions. Their position in the world is going to going to decline or remain relatively unchanged so how has it been to their advantage to spread this virus across the world?

Europe fed New York, not China. China's contribution was to the West Coast and relatively light compared to the rest of the country. And Trump only prohibited people of Chinese descent--not Americans, so tens of thousands of people came into this country even though there was a lockdown.

And Trump is xenophobic as is the bulk of the Republican Party. That goes without saying so I am surprised you thought to even bring it up...
I would estimate that the economic damage done to ... (show quote)

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Peter, you are still questioning the 5 million infected Chinese from Wuhan sent all over the world last Nov. 2019?

https://www.businessinsider.com/5-million-left-wuhan-before-coronavirus-quarantine-2020-1

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Aug 17, 2020 09:33:57   #
moldyoldy
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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PeterS, I think you lost track. Don't you know that US has a total population of 331 million?
Population of countries you listed.
Canada 37,782,247
France 65,291,847
Australia 26,648,200
Japan 126,750,000
Spain 46,757,092
England 67,930,780
Germany 83,200,000
-------------------------
Total 454,360,166.00
==============
United States 331,000,000

Those whole countries you've reported combined together is 454,360,166.00 .US is 73% of that total population of countries you've listed. The difference of
123,360,166.00 is only 27%.

Those countries are easier to control because of lot lesser population.
You can't rely on China and W.H.O. either cause China is deceptive, and W.H.O. director is a crook follow China whatever it says. China Spread this virus to the US and all over the world by sending 5 million infected people from Wuhan to the US and around the world in Nov. 2019.
Then reported the toxicity on Feb. 2020. US stopped China travel Jan 30th 2020. After that radical DIMS accused the president of xenophobic.

In addition, your figures are made up, and are not reliable. You also don't have a complete data. Anybody could make up a number. An one of them is you.

About the economy, US still controls the whole world. And US dollars has much risen its value, while the rest of their monetary system of world countries had shrunk. The problem we have are all cities run under radical DIMS mayors are all rotten, with anarchists destroying the whole city structure and your Antifa and BLM armies have damaged the whole system killing each other and most victims are their own black people. Why do they kill each other? They also kill the White people from infant to grandmas. They burn the Holy Bible wrapped with the US flag. Those are your people. And your mayors allow them. They, your radical mayors call them 1st Amendment rights for killing people.
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Now add up the total deaths in all those countries and compare that total of all those countries together against the USA.

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Aug 17, 2020 09:44:35   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Now add up the total deaths in all those countries and compare that total of all those countries together against the USA.


Hospitals listed non-covid deaths as covid.

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Aug 17, 2020 10:29:51   #
kemmer
 
Radiance3 wrote:

President Trump has been doing great leadership to put this pandemic under control.


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Aug 17, 2020 11:11:22   #
Radiance3
 
PeterS wrote:
I would estimate that the economic damage done to China has been in the trillions. Their position in the world is going to going to decline or remain relatively unchanged so how has it been to their advantage to spread this virus across the world?

Europe fed New York, not China. China's contribution was to the West Coast and relatively light compared to the rest of the country. And Trump only prohibited people of Chinese descent--not Americans, so tens of thousands of people came into this country even though there was a lockdown.

And Trump is xenophobic as is the bulk of the Republican Party. That goes without saying so I am surprised you thought to even bring it up...
I would estimate that the economic damage done to ... (show quote)

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Even Coronovirus deaths are politicized. There were many who died of other causing disease like heart attacks, and cancers they reported as caused by Covid19. The purpose of this is to blame the president for the deaths of these people.

While talking to my niece in NYC this morning, she is an RN, there were many cases that deaths were reported as Covid19 but actually caused by other diseases. Some died of cancer, hearth attacks, and other dangerous diseases. Some nurses and other health professionals all over the country are warned about reports provided outside of their system. Nurses are kept silent. See these democrats are so dishonest. That is why your death report per day in the US is high, and not reliable.

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Aug 17, 2020 12:16:15   #
moldyoldy
 
Peewee wrote:
Hospitals listed non-covid deaths as covid.


That’s the latest right wing conspiracy.

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Aug 17, 2020 12:19:23   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
moldyoldy wrote:
That’s the latest right wing conspiracy.


It's the truth. You should become more familiar with it. It's not deadly.

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Aug 17, 2020 13:12:14   #
moldyoldy
 
Peewee wrote:
It's the truth. You should become more familiar with it. It's not deadly.


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/faq-surveillance.html

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Aug 18, 2020 01:00:25   #
Radiance3
 
PeterS wrote:
1)How do we know there wasn't political bias? Simply because something says what you want it to say doesn't mean there isn't political bias 2)Name any medical test for a virus that concludes by giving your probability of dying from the disease? Without knowing the date and the area(s) tested this test doesn't tell us very much.

And what is very low compared to other countries. If you are going to make such a statement you need to present the statistics of other countries compared to the US. As is, you are just asking us to take your word for it without any actual evidence presented.

All you've done is find a piece of garbage that spins the numbers the way you like. That doesn't mean it's not biased--that simply means that it meets YOUR bias and nothing more.

The long and short of it is how many people are contracting the virus and how many are dying from it. One thing that should be noted is that even though more people are contracting it, fewer people are dying from it. That's not because Trump is a wonderful president but because the experience our doctors and nurses have gained treating COVID has allowed them to reduce the mortality rate substantially.
1)How do we know there wasn't political bias? Simp... (show quote)

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You are having so much imagination how these are done. What you have written are all your decisions and made up rants .Not mine.

Before I could decide which is the most effective, I must have series of tests large and small throughout a period of time.

W.H.O.'s jobs are to assess and make final decisions that the medicine is effective and all protocols of tests are completed with successful results. Then that is the basis for allowing the use of the medication.

Without substantial tests and trials for a systematic period of time, I would not yet recommend. And doctors must evaluate various positive results before prescribing to patients.

Problems we are encountering are the political side and financial gains involved in the process. These are the factors that must not be involved in the decision making for the life and death of human being.

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Aug 18, 2020 01:55:09   #
Elmer Werth
 
Dr. Fauci made a fake test on a group of advanced case veterans with poor results. Dr'.s all over the world have proven that HCQ saves nearly all early treated patients with the virus and is only a slight help on advanced cases. Fauci calls some of the symptoms of the virus side effects of HCQ and tells the world HCQ is a dangerous drug. The FDA eagerly grabs the lie and recommended a very expensive drug for big Pharma to sell to the virus patients. HCQ has been safely used all over the malaria world for more than 50 years with no side effects. FDA has opposed HCQ and people are dying needlessly.
Elmer Werth

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Aug 18, 2020 03:31:46   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
PeterS wrote:
Gosh, Peewee. I was told by you cons that this was just a liberal ploy where liberals from all over were going to ignore the Coronavirus just as soon as the election was over. Is that not true? Is this not just a great big hoax perpetrated by the liberals all so we can steal the election from the great and wonderful Donald J Trump???


True that.

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