zombinis3 Loc: Southwest

Your right it hasn't been proven that they do but on the other hand it hasn't been proven that they don't. Since it is a respiratory ailment this is some interesting infomation on how they can by cutting down on some of the speed and droplets.

Both a sneeze and a cough have one goal in mind: getting rid of whatever is bugging your body. Unfortunately, getting rid of germs in such a violent method means spreading germs in a rather large spray of saliva, mucus, irritants and caught viruses (which can live on surfaces for hours at a time). Sprays can be a little difficult to track, but some enterprising scientists have managed to make a rough estimate. A cough can travel as fast as 50 mph and expel almost 3,000 droplets in just one go. Sneezes win though—they can travel up to 100 mph and create upwards of 100,000 droplets. Yikes!

https://www.lung.org/blog/sneeze-versus-cough
https://www.lung.org/blog/sneeze-versus-cough
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/heres-how-far-and-how-fast-a-sneeze-carries-contagious-germs

PeterS

Hey, I wear my seatbelt every time I'm in the car too...

PeterS

So if you cough or sneeze you don't think a mask will stop the particulates from spreading throughout the room? Masks aren't being sold as a be-all and end-all only that they will slow the spread. And since there is no scientific proof that you conservatives will believe it should be intuitive that, if a mask stops the majority of particulates from your breath, then it will be effective in slowing the spread of a particular virus or germ. Lacking intuition, I say have a good day...

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

The "plan" should be to start using HCQ for prevention and treatment until something better comes along.

Malaria is the leading cause of death in Uganda. They have used HCQ to combat Malaria.

Uganda's Health Minister Dr Jane Ruth Aceng said that even if hydroxychloroquine is still undergoing testing, it has the ability to stop the spread of coronavirus by stabilizing red blood cells so that uptake of oxygen by hemoglobin is promoted. (A recent study by Chinese researchers revealed that COVID-19 attacks hemoglobin in the red blood cells and renders them incapable of transporting oxygen.)

Uganda has a population of 45 million people. Uganda has reported 1,560 confirmed Covid cases and 15 deaths. Currently, Uganda is treating 53 Covid patients.


India also has long had problems with Malaria. India has over 75% of the total number of Malaria cases in Southeast Asia. India too has administered HCQ to combat Malaria.

India, with a population of 1.4 billion people, is the second most populated country on earth, yet India has had remarkable success in keeping Covid infections in check using HCQ.

Currently, India has recorded 2,701,572 confirmed cases and 51,923 deaths.

Experts Explain: The case for using hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) to treat Covid-19

HCQ Helps Contain COVID-19 Cases: New Evidence and a Major Retraction

This Indian slum contained a possible COVID-19 disaster with hydroxychloroquine

On July 9, 2020, Asia's biggest and densest slum shocked the world by announcing just one new positive COVID-19 case despite being a cluster and hotspot.

Dharavi is no ordinary slum. It is one of the densest in the world, housing more than a million people. It provided some of the background for the Oscar-winning movie Slumdog Millionaire.

Dharavi contains pockets where as many as 650,000 people are crammed into 2.5 square kilometers. In comparison, New York City has only around 95,605 people for 2.5 square kilometers.

India feared the worst when a cluster outbreak of COVID-19 was reported in Dharavi. It could have become the biggest COVID-19 disaster zone in the world. But by using proactive measures, Dharavi contained the virus.

Media around the world, like the Los Angeles Times, have reported the success. Even the World Health Organization praised Dharavi.

Reports credit the huge turnaround to various factors. Most focused on Dharavi's use of widespread testing and contact tracing. One is the use of an anti-malarial drug. But they ignored the policy most responsible. Indian doctors used hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) for prophylaxis (preventive) treatment — the same drug the American media have politicized.

Dharavi's COVID-19 infection rate dropped drastically from April through June. In July, new infections were very low, almost reaching zero on July 9.

Officials have credited this turnaround to "a combination of hydroxychloroquine, vitamin D, and zinc tablets along with homeopathic medicines."

HCQ has been widely used across India to treat early-stage COVID-19. It is also prescribed for prophylaxis among those who have come into contact with people who have tested positive.

In India, HCQ has always been legal. The government's official COVID-19 task force, the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR), highly recommends it for high-risk people like medical practitioners.

The ICMR guidelines recommend prophylactic use of HCQ for the following categories:

1) "all asymptomatic healthcare workers involved in containment and treatment of COVID19 and asymptomatic healthcare workers working in non-COVID hospitals/non-COVID areas of COVID hospitals/blocks";
2)"symptomatic frontline workers, such as surveillance workers deployed in containment zones and paramilitary/police personnel involved in COVID-19 related activities"; and
3) "symptomatic household contacts of laboratory confirmed cases."

In other words, HCQ is for anyone with the slightest chance of contracting COVID-19.

PeterS

Who would have thought Zombies would be so intuitive. I wasn't trying to sell a cure to my friends on the other side of the aisle, only that masks will slow the spread of any airborne virus or germ. I wouldn't think there would be a need for scientific proof, such proof most conservatives would ignore anyway, but simply the application of intuition, that if you reduce the number of droplets in the air you reduce the chance of catching a disease from those droplets. That's all. I would think that it would be simple enough to understand but it seems our friends on the other side of the aisle don't trust their intuition nor science so I have to wonder just how is it they are able to navigate from point A to point B?

I like your argument by the way. I hope to see more of your posts...

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

The positive pressure full face mask properly fitted and worn is the only 100% guarantee against airborne viral infections. Similar to the Level 4 biohazard masks used in labs.

As it is out there, the genuine N95 mask is available only to medical personnel and first responders, and even its effectiveness is questionable. Doctor told me that.

Having said that, I don't know the percentages, but a very large percent of masks are either cheap imitations of an approved surgical mask or homemade or other cloth trappings like bandanas or scarves - stuff that wouldn't stop a mosquito bite.

And, there is the manner in which people are wearing the masks. Supposed to cover mouth and nose, right? Lots of people need a spanking.

The only place here where "No Mask, No Service" is posted is the grocery store. Every other public facility - the department store, hardware store, library, gas station, bars, even the city offices and the post office - posts a request to wear a mask, but don't refuse service if you aren't wearing one.

Because I have to to get groceries, the grocery store is the only place I wear a mask and it is a bandana. Sure as hell don't need a mask when at the shooting range. In fact, last time I went out there, I found two designer covid masks pinned to the target boards with bullet holes in them.

So far, two people here have been infected and both were immediately quarantined in the hospital and have since recovered.

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Now, if ya wanna get serious about stopping the spread of Covid-19, how about HCQ?

Malaria is the leading cause of death in Uganda. They administer HCQ to combat Malaria, and now Covid.

Uganda's Health Minister Dr Jane Ruth Aceng said that even if hydroxychloroquine is still undergoing testing, it has the ability to stop the spread of coronavirus by stabilizing red blood cells so that uptake of oxygen by hemoglobin is promoted.

(A recent study by Chinese researchers revealed that COVID-19 attacks hemoglobin in the red blood cells and renders them incapable of transporting oxygen.)

Uganda has a population of 45 million people. Uganda has reported 1,560 confirmed Covid cases and 15 deaths. Currently, Uganda is treating 53 Covid patients.


India also has long had problems with Malaria. India has over 75% of the total number of Malaria cases in Southeast Asia. India too has administered HCQ to combat Malaria. And now, Covid.

India, with a population of 1.4 billion people, is the second most populated country on earth, yet India has had remarkable success in keeping Covid infections in check using HCQ.

Currently, India has recorded 2,701,572 confirmed cases and 51,923 deaths.

Experts Explain: The case for using hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) to treat Covid-19

HCQ Helps Contain COVID-19 Cases: New Evidence and a Major Retraction

This Indian slum contained a possible COVID-19 disaster with hydroxychloroquine

On July 9, 2020, Asia's biggest and densest slum shocked the world by announcing just one new positive COVID-19 case despite being a cluster and hotspot.

Dharavi is no ordinary slum. It is one of the densest in the world, housing more than a million people. It provided some of the background for the Oscar-winning movie Slumdog Millionaire.

Dharavi contains pockets where as many as 650,000 people are crammed into 2.5 square kilometers. In comparison, New York City has only around 95,605 people for 2.5 square kilometers.

India feared the worst when a cluster outbreak of COVID-19 was reported in Dharavi. It could have become the biggest COVID-19 disaster zone in the world. But by using proactive measures, Dharavi contained the virus.

Media around the world, like the Los Angeles Times, have reported the success. Even the World Health Organization praised Dharavi.

Reports credit the huge turnaround to various factors. Most focused on Dharavi's use of widespread testing and contact tracing. One is the use of an anti-malarial drug. But they ignored the policy most responsible. Indian doctors used hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) for prophylaxis (preventive) treatment — the same drug the American media have politicized.

Dharavi's COVID-19 infection rate dropped drastically from April through June. In July, new infections were very low, almost reaching zero on July 9.

Officials have credited this turnaround to "a combination of hydroxychloroquine, vitamin D, and zinc tablets along with homeopathic medicines."

HCQ has been widely used across India to treat early-stage COVID-19. It is also prescribed for prophylaxis among those who have come into contact with people who have tested positive.

In India, HCQ has always been legal. The government's official COVID-19 task force, the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR), highly recommends it for high-risk people like medical practitioners.

The ICMR guidelines recommend prophylactic use of HCQ for the following categories:

1) "all asymptomatic healthcare workers involved in containment and treatment of COVID19 and asymptomatic healthcare workers working in non-COVID hospitals/non-COVID areas of COVID hospitals/blocks";
2)"symptomatic frontline workers, such as surveillance workers deployed in containment zones and paramilitary/police personnel involved in COVID-19 related activities"; and
3) "symptomatic household contacts of laboratory confirmed cases."

In other words, HCQ is for anyone with the slightest chance of contracting COVID-19.

Smedley_buzkill

If masks work all that well, why are they not being issued to convicts in prison instead of turning these convicted criminals loose? Why not just give them a mask and keep them in jail?

teabag09

If Hillary was President I’m sure we would all be out at ballgames right now!

WRONG! We'd be up S creek without a paddle. Mike

teabag09

One thing is for sure, wearing a mask will encourage brushing one's teeth. Mike

Kazudy

Many countries have opened up schools and are doing just fine. Elementary level children can get the virus but they overcome it. Check it out.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

You don't and never will get it. However, you don't want to.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

Nope, as your oxygen levels go down it gets harder to think. Look smarter? In a waiting room of sheep I just saw fleece today so it doesn't.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

Hillary as President we'd be dead. She'd have started a war with Russia when she was 3 months in. Uh, YOU are one of the sheeple toots. All we have to do is go back to life as it was before everybody was Kung Fu fighting.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

Yep, but..Weren't (I'm sure you and everyone else was) taught cough or sneeze into your hand or elbow. Don't say or think 'I can't help it' (this really isn't to you, mostly the paranoid sheeple), I have year-long allergies and I've learned to stifle a cough or sneeze until I have a tissue.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

3 answers
1. It depends on whoever's mind frame ie a nutcase like DeBlasio release them without thinking of repercussions.
2. Do they hate people?
3. Some WILL think of what is better.