Roamin' Catholic Loc: luxurious exile

Behold, the elephant in the room! EVERY DAY three times! as many people are murdered by abortion than die from covid! And this has gone on "legally" for over 45 years!

The streets of cities the world over run red with the blood of the slaughtered innocents and liberals slosh along through it oblivious!

EmilyD

I wonder how sad permafrost feels about all those deaths.....

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

emily, you people are truly insane.. nothing is so outlandish and foolish you will still try and defend your idiot of an orange slug in the oval office..

The C-19 is a world wide crisis and you insist, as you insist mass killings are nothing to to be concerned with because car accidents kill more people. do not concern ourselves with gun deaths..

what sort of defective bubble do you people keep yourselves locked into??

denial is a religion with you.. refuse to admit a problem is real only because the fool in the white house has called it a hoax..

the whole world is working to stem the c-19 only trump supporters and the truly stupid do other wise.

It is far from minor.. it is not a form of the flu (influenza).. not even the same family of virus..

get some truth to your life.. that can not hurt you. only protect you..

This is an old article , from May 2020, so numbers are not near up to date. but you can get the picture.. but of course you will not..

Minn Post...interview with health experts from U of M..

Even as the death toll from COVID-19 climbs, there are people out there claiming the threat of the novel virus is being exaggerated and that it’s really no worse than a bad flu.

While it’s true that both are caused by viruses that are respiratory in nature and both have the potential to cause symptoms like coughs and fevers, it’s becoming increasingly clear they are not all that similar.

Their differences start with the packaging the viruses come in, and they continue through the way they attack people’s immune systems, even onto how deadly they are. Here’s a look at how they’re different and why.

They’re caused by different types of viruses

Influenza and coronavirus are two different families of viruses. While they both are made up of RNA (some diseases’ genetic material is DNA), the protein layers that surround the RNA, causing the immune response, are different in the two pathogens.

Influenza’s shell features hemagglutinin and neuraminidase proteins. Coronaviruses get their name from the glycoprotein spikes that surround them, giving them a crown-like appearance under magnification. Those different surface proteins interact differently with human cells.

The flu has been around for a long time, and we know a lot about it

Historians say the flu may date back millennia. Some of the first written descriptions of the virus are thought to date back to Hippocrates, around 410 BCE.

The influenza virus itself was identified in 1933, so people have had a long time to figure out how the flu works. We know when it’s likely to hit each year, and we know who’s more susceptible to severe complications.

“We know a lot about the flu. It’s got seasonality. We know what time of year it hits. We know that pregnant women, older people and young kids are at particularly high risk,” said Dr. David Ingbar, a professor of medicine, the director of the pulmonary, allergy, critical care and sleep division at the University of Minnesota’s Medical School and Executive Director of the Center for Lung and Science Health.

One of the numbers underpinning policy discussions about COVID-19 is something called an R0. Pronounced “R-naught,” this number refers to how many other people, on average, a person with a given virus will infect.

For seasonal influenza, the R0 is thought to be between 0.9 and 2.1, meaning the average infected person will infect one or two others. The Minnesota COVID-19 model currently predicts an R0 of 3.87, meaning the average infected person infects about 3.9 others. That means COVID-19 is more infectious than the flu.

Flu also has a shorter incubation period than COVID-19. It usually between one and four days for someone infected with the flu to show symptoms. With COVID-19, the incubation period may be up to 14 days, making it more likely people will spread the virus before they show symptoms.

COVID-19 is more deadly

It’s been tough for researchers to get a handle on the death rate of COVID-19, partly because so many people seem to be getting it without showing symptoms.

Early estimates in China put the death rate at around 3 percent. Recent research put the mortality rate in the U.S. around 1.3 percent, or a little over one in 100 infections.

That might not seem terribly high, but it’s much higher than a seasonal flu, which typically sees death rates around 0.10 percent, or one in 1,000 infections.

That suggests COVID-19 is about 10 times more fatal than a seasonal flu.

In Minnesota, there have been 683 confirmed deaths due to COVID-19 as of Friday morning. That’s four times higher than the number of people — 153 — believed to have died of flu so far this flu season. It’s one-third higher than the number of people who died of flu in 2017-18, a particularly deadly year when A H3 was prevalent, but Minnesota is believed to have yet seen the peak of COVID-19 cases and deaths.

While COVID-19 is more deadly than influenza, people shouldn’t downplay the dangers of the flu, Ingbar said.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Morning biker, going to Stugis for the weekend????

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Humans can not kill what God has not given life...

EmilyD

Do you realize that when you go grocery shopping and you buy a loaf of bread, that loaf has been touched by quite a few people...in the factory, in the truck from the factory, when delivering the loaf to the store, when the clerk puts it on the shelf, when other people come by and pick up or touch the loaf, when you buy it, when the cashier checks it out, when the bagger bags it and when it gets to your home and everybody that lives there touches it.

And that's just a loaf of bread.

Why aren't there millions (billions?) of people dead from this killer disease if so many people are involved touching the things we buy if C-19 is so widespread and deadly?

Because it is a hoax. The latest trickery by the Dems, backed by people like Soros, the Clintons, Obamas and who knows what other people from around the world, who want this "crisis" to stay alive so they can push voting by mail....and we all know how much fraud will (not "can") happen with that! It's amazing that Dems became so "outraged" when they thought Trump was rigging the 2016 election, when they are trying anything and anything - whatever they can think of - to sway the 2020 election!!

The more the Dems try to sway this election, the more it becomes obvious to everyone that they are trying to do so. If it weren't such a serious matter, it would almost be funny.

Americans are not stupid. They are not buying this hoax kool-aid. They didn't buy Hillary's crap in 2016, and they're not buying it AGAIN now.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Lord in heaven you are obtuse.. are you truly as dumb as your post??

How illogical your world wide conspiracy is, do you have any idea??

trump is a beaten man walking.. even most real republicans know that and are jumping ship.. after Nov 3rd you will see dozens if not hundreds of the GOP declaring the never truly supported trump at all.. the lies will continue, just in differing directions..

EmilyD

That right there is a very sad thing. I recommend you go to the doctor with a woman who is pregnant and look at an ultrasound of a baby living inside her womb. There is a heartbeat. There is a head and arms and legs...and the baby is moving around inside the womb all by itself. You can see that when the woman is pregnant for only two months. Babies can be born as early as six months and up to nine months. Human women decide to kill babies at all states of the pregnancy. When some pregnancies are terminated, the babies are still alive when removed from the womb, and are left to die on their own.

If that doesn't make you feel sad, then you must be a very cold-hearted person, who is in denial of what abortion really is.

EmilyD

Lord in heaven? Do you believe in Him??? That's very odd, since you don't think abortion is wrong.

Roamin' Catholic Loc: luxurious exile

Thank you Permafrost for your reply to the posts by emilyD and I concerning the daily death count of human babies murdered by abortion as opposed to the daily death count of those who die of covid.

The question was asked by Biker regarding the rates of death from non-covid causes compared to the death rate from covid. This of course pushed my pro-life button.

It is very rare for a pro- choice person to reply to a post such as mine so I welcome your answer and find it very interesting. I've never heard the pro-abortion view that you declared, that a pre-born baby is not actually alive. We've heard it called a fetus (Latin for tiny baby), a clump of cells, a pregnancy, a mistake, etc. But I've never heard the view that God had not given life to the unwanted baby.

Do you believe that a pre-born baby with a beating heart, kicking, thumb sucking, eyes blinking, growing in the pattern dictated by its unique DNA, is actually not alive until what...it breathes air? Is given a name? Has a birth certificate?

Or is your belief in the nonliving pre-born a Calvinist interpretation of pre-destination? That since this baby is destined to be killed, God chooses to not give the baby life in the first place?

Frankly Permafrost I am surprised at the coldness of your belief. Permafrost indeed.

the J man Loc: California

and how does that explain Trumps horrible response the the pandemic ?

the J man Loc: California

you are actually celebrating that fact that we are number one with most cases and number one with most deaths ??????? you are sick

the J man Loc: California

NO EMILYD it is you that has a bad case of TDS, do you really think that Trumps response to this pandemic was the correct response ???? if you do than you are suffering from TDS

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

I simply pick and choose what bits from the Bible I wish to show at any particular time..just like the cherry picking of the right wing christens...

Humans become a living soul as God gives the first breath of life..

"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." ... Praise ye the LORD." Psalms 150:6,

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

You also take it upon yourself to decide that i support Abortions.. I do not.. they should be only a last resort and much deliberation needs to be done first..

But I do strongly believe that not I nor you nor anyone other then the mother and possible input from a father has any right at all to insist that any person make a decision as someone else insists she make..

It is the womans right and not at all any right of yours or mine to make this decision..

We can all find many verses in the Bible to support our stand, it is what we choose and I have come to choose this particular stance..