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May 7, 2014 14:30:55   #
Blacksheep
 
JimMe wrote:
So, based on Your Thinking, We should Repeal the 22nd Amendment... That's the one Restricting Presidents & Vice-Presidents from holding their Office for more than 2 full terms...


I'm sorry JimMe but where in the Hell do you get that? He didn't say that, he said this: L.E. Liesner wrote:
The Founders already set term limits, the term for a Representative is two years, the President's term is four years, and a Senator is six years. You are not required to re-elect them every time their term expires. If you are unhappy with your elected officials, vote them out of office. You do not need a Constitutional Amendment to do that. A lot less apathy and voter laziness, and a lot more knowledge of your elected officials attention to his/hers duty to the country is what is needed today.

He's saying that the 22nd Amendment already restricts them to two terms. That's all. He's just pointing out the necessary amendment is already in place and that we don't need another one.

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May 7, 2014 15:31:18   #
L.E. Liesner Loc: New Mexico
 
JimMe wrote:
So, based on Your Thinking, We should Repeal the 22nd Amendment... That's the one Restricting Presidents & Vice-Presidents from holding their Office for more than 2 full terms...


You really don't need term limits. All you really need to do is make it against the law to be stupid, that would put about 90% of the city, county, state, and federal politicians in jail and you would not have to vote for them.

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May 7, 2014 16:05:03   #
Blacksheep
 
L.E. Liesner wrote:
You really don't need term limits. All you really need to do is make it against the law to be stupid, that would put about 90% of the city, county, state, and federal politicians in jail and you would not have to vote for them.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :lol: :lol: :P

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May 7, 2014 17:59:11   #
Homestead
 
alabuck wrote:
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cesspool,
You do know that sedition is against the law, right? Can you say NSA? You and the rest of your BBA brethren just keep talking your smack. I have no doubt you're already on the NSA's and the FBI's radar. Too bad you can't take all of your hate and yourselves to Afghanistan and Iraq. You and your boys could give the Taliban and Al Qaida fits, for about 10 minutes - tops.

PS, I'm not a conservative and I'm not a lib. I'm just an American veteran that loves his country, warts and all. And, I really don't want you trying to puck it up just because you don't like the president. There's a lot I don't like that's going on, but I'd never threaten to go after the president.
--------- br cesspool, br You do know that seditio... (show quote)


If your are a veteran, then you know about the oath to protect this country from it's enemy's, both foreign AND domestic.

What happens if the enemy of this country, is a fraud, that got himself elected president?

Sheriff Joe Obama ID Fraud Presentation - 6/1/2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwDqXFCy0Bo

BLOCKBUSTER REVELATION! - MINI Documentary - Illegal Obama "Propped Up" By Congress!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3aCfR8rmrw

Get Ready: Dr. Grace Vuoto Unloads Details
Related To Sheriff Joe Obama Investigation; DARPA
http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/02/get-ready-dr-grace-unloads-details.html

Team Arpaio: Major Media Heavily Involved
In Sheriff Joe's Obama Criminal Investigation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=200kyOZw5nU

Audio: Sheriff Joe Lead Obama Investigator; Other
Agencies Being Contacted; Announcement In Near Future
http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/04/update-sheriff-joes-lead-investigator.html

It's fortunate for America that other veterans and law enforcement officers take their oaths to the Constitution very seriously.
They are doing everything they can to get to the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

We already know that the only two pieces of identification Obama used to identify himself are both forgeries.
We also know that, by Obama's own admission, his father was not a United States of America citizen, so he is not a Natural Born Citizen, as demanded by the Constitution.

Today we have a group of people risking their lives, fortunes and sacred honour, to expose Barack Obama for the fraud that he is.

When that happens, where are you going to stand?

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May 7, 2014 18:08:45   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Hear, Hear!! Kingsley! Excellent Post~
Kingsley wrote:
Eric;
I am 15 yrs. your junior yet it is fair to say I understand and appreciate your reasoning, (over looking your couple of burps) and that's because government class, to include the Constitution, was still part of our established curriculum during my school years. Do you remember? "you will pass government or else". This is not true today, (even in catholic school where I was raised) due to the DOE deciding that it was too much of a task for the poor immigrant children who could not grasp it. Intentional or not the result has been the "dumbing down" of our citizenry to a rather obvious level of national ignorance. And this is where you and I should both give thanks to your respondent L.E. Liesner, ignorance breeds laziness breeds loss of civil rights. I thank you all, tonight was a good read. NOW, let us go and vote ourselves back into our rightful position(s).
Eric; br I am 15 yrs. your junior yet it is fair t... (show quote)

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May 7, 2014 18:16:06   #
Blacksheep
 
alabuck wrote:
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cesspool,
You do know that sedition is against the law, right? Can you say NSA? You and the rest of your BBA brethren just keep talking your smack. I have no doubt you're already on the NSA's and the FBI's radar. Too bad you can't take all of your hate and yourselves to Afghanistan and Iraq. You and your boys could give the Taliban and Al Qaida fits, for about 10 minutes - tops.

PS, I'm not a conservative and I'm not a lib. I'm just an American veteran that loves his country, warts and all. And, I really don't want you trying to puck it up just because you don't like the president. There's a lot I don't like that's going on, but I'd never threaten to go after the president.
--------- br cesspool, br You do know that seditio... (show quote)


I don't like the president. In fact I hate the lying, Muslim traitorous son of a bitch and would love it, truly love it, if something suddenly removed the upper half of his head from his body. Now, I'm not threatening to do any such thing, I'm just an old fart living in a remote little town, but yeah, if someone did him in, I'd cheer my ass off.

But hey, thanks for your opinion and your unabashed, smarmy attack on Cesspool because you disagree with him. :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

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May 7, 2014 18:21:21   #
rumitoid
 
Government, any government, is about power and control over its citizens. Rights are the perfect bait to hook compliance and give the appearance of being fed. Freedom is a devil, choice not what it appears. An example.

Before Rome accepted Christianity in 312 AD, this faith had realized an unsurpassed growth. Persecution seemed a forge to produce and maintain the mettle of faith, and without official sanction, the faith relied completely on the Word. That all changed with "freedom of worship." Think about it.

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May 7, 2014 18:21:50   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Out of "All" The Signers of "Three" major Foundational Documents, of the United States of America, their were only 'two' Diests.

http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html

Get your facts Straight before mouthing off about My Country!
Alicia wrote:
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Correction. Our Founding Fathers were Deists, otherwise known as Freemasons who believe in a god but are not members of any particular religion. With a little research you may learn that most of those in public life and in the arts (painters, sculptors, composers) were also Deists. Religious paintings and sculptures were often not initiated by these artists but they accepted commissions to produce the artwork. The churches and patrons of the arts often supported the artists through commissions.
*********************** br Correction. Our Foundi... (show quote)

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May 7, 2014 18:33:46   #
Blacksheep
 
rhomin57 wrote:
Out of "All" The Signers of "Three" major Foundational Documents, of the United States of America, their were only 'two' Diests.

http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html

Get your facts Straight before mouthing off about My Country!


Deist. It's spelled d e i s t.

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May 7, 2014 19:59:40   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Thank you. Is that all you got out of it? Must have been reading it fairly close to have spotted that typo. Like, or, not like?
Won't hurt my feelings, and I promise not to come back on you like a samurai swordsman if you don't like. Will just mean you looked over my entire post. :mrgreen:
Blacksheep wrote:
Deist. It's spelled d e i s t.

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May 7, 2014 21:14:25   #
Blacksheep
 
rhomin57 wrote:
Thank you. Is that all you got out of it? Must have been reading it fairly close to have spotted that typo. Like, or, not like?
Won't hurt my feelings, and I promise not to come back on you like a samurai swordsman if you don't like. Will just mean you looked over my entire post. :mrgreen:


Oh. I didn't add to that because you were responding to Alicia, which is like talking to a robot voice over the phone. Ever do that? You keep repeating yourself and the damn thing never gets it, until finally after 5 minutes you get to speak to a real human?

But sure, good post. It won't shut her up though, now she'll just ignore it and go somewhere else to spew BS.

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May 7, 2014 21:25:23   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
:thumbup:
Blacksheep wrote:
Oh. I didn't add to that because you were responding to Alicia, which is like talking to a robot voice over the phone. Ever do that? You keep repeating yourself and the damn thing never gets it, until finally after 5 minutes you get to speak to a real human?

But sure, good post. It won't shut her up though, now she'll just ignore it and go somewhere else to spew BS.

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May 7, 2014 21:31:36   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
rhomin57 wrote:
:thumbup:

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Anyone who continues to listen to a robot on the phone definitely has a problem.
8-)

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May 7, 2014 21:38:47   #
Blacksheep
 
Alicia wrote:
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Anyone who continues to listen to a robot on the phone definitely has a problem.
8-)


Which applies exactly HOW to your false statement about Founding Father deists? Hmmm? Come on. We're waiting. Say you were wrong, stand up on your hind legs like a real person.

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May 7, 2014 23:57:07   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
Blacksheep wrote:
I don't like the president. In fact I hate the lying, Muslim traitorous son of a bitch and would love it, truly love it, if something suddenly removed the upper half of his head from his body. Now, I'm not threatening to do any such thing, I'm just an old fart living in a remote little town, but yeah, if someone did him in, I'd cheer my ass off.

But hey, thanks for your opinion and your unabashed, smarmy attack on Cesspool because you disagree with him. :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
I don't like the president. In fact I hate the lyi... (show quote)

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Not only do I disagree with cesspool's opinions, I disagree with your opinions, too; as well as with several others around here. I promised to "preserve, protect and defend," the Constitution of the US. That document allows you, and others on this site, the opportunity to bash anyone you want to, whose opinion you don't like. It also gives me the same right. But, our civil liberties to voice our opinions are limited. One can't yell, "FIRE!" in a crowded theater. And, one can't "incite to riot," either.

So, before you and your fellow "haters of anything and everything you disagree with" crawl back into your bomb-shelters for your daily practicing of "intellectual incest" and congratulate one another on pontificating your extremist views, just remember that there are literally hundreds of thousands of men and women who died, preserving your right to speak freely and practice your intellectual incest without fear of government interference.

You yahoos keep yelling how you're going to replace our current government. With what? My fear is that YOUR government won't have the same inclination toward dissenting points of view as does our current government. It may not even allow its citizenry to own guns. How can you guarantee your government will be better for ALL its citizens than the one we now have? If, the way you people react to those who disagree with you on this site, is any indication of how your new government would treat dissenters, I'm sure your government wouldn't be any different than any other fascist dictatorship.

You guys seem to be all geared-up for a revolution. Are you sure you know what you need to do once you've taken down our present government? I seriously doubt you've thought beyond the end of your gun barrels. I believe, once you've run out of bullets, you've run out of ideas.

I suggest you read how the Russian Revolution went through its many iterations before the Communists took it over. Or, how the French Revolution went through its several iterations before Bonaparte got himself crowned emperor. How Hitler was able to worm his way into the Chancellorship of Germany. Or, when the Shah of Iran was overthrown and when Hussein was disposed of in Iraq, and what filled those vacuums. You people think you have all the answers (It's Obama's fault! or It's the governments fault!). Yep, all both of them. In reality, you don't even know what the questions are.

You people scream and cry about how you're losing your rights. Hell, you haven't lost one damn thing, except your self respect. You still can bash the government. You can still buy all of the guns and ammo your credit cards can handle. You can still travel from state to state without showing "your papers." You still enjoy the protections of the Constitution, the armed forces and everything else the government provides to you, paved roads, safer foods, safer drugs, safer cars, safer environment, safer airways, police, teachers, etc.

Oooo, you getting all this from the government makes you a recipient of government support. You're on welfare, too! How does that make you feel? But, I guess your socialism is a different kind, huh. One that you feel you have a right to receive. Welfare you're entitled to. What a concept!! LOL

So, the next time you want to say how happy you'd be to replace our government, or celebrate if the President got shot, just remember how, on 9-11, Islamists, around the world, celebrated the planes smashing into the Twin Towers, the Pentagon and into the ground in Pennsylvania. Then, tell me what the difference would be between them and you. I can tell you what the difference is - nil to none.

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