More sanctions (Page 8): Pervyy dumat' kak russkiy, I do speak Russian , and it says first think like a Russian, I can also write it in Cyrillic if you like , I have been talking to...

bluejacket

danclone1 wrote:

I tried listening to your last" unbiased"news feed but unfortunately I don't speak russian

Pervyy dumat' kak russkiy, I do speak Russian , and it says first think like a Russian, I can also write it in Cyrillic if you like , I have been talking to friends I have in Russia , Belarus and Germany I also speak read and write German , and your opinions are not very accurate or close to the truth

danclone1

What are my opinions,and why do u say they are wrong

danclone1

When did you address that?what is the reason that's its okay for Russians to mess with ukraine?Cause it's next door?that u.s. killed Philippines?that's its okay if you can make up enough propaganda about it that someone will believe it?

Patty wrote:

I already addressed that. Just how many people do you think the US has killed of people who have never done us any harm? Super powers are ruthless. What is your point?

danclone1

I have no issue with people who are willing to hear different,not always opposing views.But do not understand how you can be on the internet and decide that other people point of view isn't valid just cause you say so...I invite anyone to give their thoughts about the Orange revolution, the causes . and possible consequences of russian/ussr involvement in the Ukraine s
From before ww2 on,but don't invite discussions on these subjects then say that your opinion is fact,and others don't count

bluejacket wrote:

Pervyy dumat' kak russkiy, I do speak Russian , and it says first think like a Russian, I can also write it in Cyrillic if you like , I have been talking to friends I have in Russia , Belarus and Germany I also speak read and write German , and your opinions are not very accurate or close to the truth

danclone1

My point was that we were talking about Ukraine and Russian denial of involvement there.But the story about Russia non involvement was spoken in Russian,on a Russian tv network.sorry if there was any misunderstanding

danclone1

Not spoken in Ukrainian

bluejacket

danclone1 wrote:

My point was that we were talking about Ukraine and Russian denial of involvement there.But the story about Russia non involvement was spoken in Russian,on a Russian tv network.sorry if there was any misunderstanding

Sorry that you think that I believe your opinions have no validity , but your opinions tend to mirror the main stream media here at home , I do get different opinions from people who are closer to the situation and yes there is probably covert Russian involvement , and there is covert western involvement most notably the United States and Poland is being used as a proxy for United States action, portraying Putin as evil is not a good idea as it is inaccurate , he is very interested in the welfare of the ethnic Russians in the Ukraine , the EU ,NATO and the United States are not as interested in their welfare and those three probably consider them acceptable loses , the 48 people killed in Odessa and the lack of condemnation from the U.S. media gives credence to that (those 48 Russians were corned in a building and fire bombed until they were all dead ) , I think the real thugs are in the Kiev government or do you find those actions acceptable because I don't

danclone1

Actually,when I started to talk about ukraine,all I was saying was that this is the point of view of the majority of the Ukraine press!that there was another point of view then the one that was being stated as undeniable fact by one person here.

danclone1

Then,I got into a discussion about how much most native Ukrainians were more interested in the e.u. than in u.s..

danclone1

And why that is so(Stalin's purge of farmers who were against collective farming,the treaty to give up nukes for non- interference with Ukraine domestic policies,kruschev-a native born ukrainian-attempting to repopulate Ukraine with Russian born---And Russian privileged---citizens,and mostly with yanukovych's two failed attempts at running the goverment).

danclone1

Oh,and the importance of Crimea to Russian military and commercial shipping

Patty

I don't think that I will waste time on someone who doesn't trust his own eyes (Dan) The truth is there for people to see if they want to but for those who are comfortable with their illusion they will remain in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZUEBIoZu0w

bluejacket wrote:

Sorry that you think that I believe your opinions ... (show quote)

danclone1

You've already said that you aren't listening to any points of view but your own!you never said that you were in ukraine,and that you were using personal experience to form you opinions. I If you are in the Ukraine,why did you use such spurious tactics like those u tube conversations,and when you said that a site was saying something when it was saying something else....I think I'm gonna take what you say with*quote*a ton of salt

Patty

It isn't my point of view but feel free to believe what you want. Why would you think that I would care. I don't know you except that you refuse to think for yourself even when someone provides you with the resources to educate yourself.

danclone1 wrote:

You've already said that you aren't listening to any points of view but your own!you never said that you were in ukraine,and that you were using personal experience to form you opinions. I If you are in the Ukraine,why did you use such spurious tactics like those u tube conversations,and when you said that a site was saying something when it was saying something else....I think I'm gonna take what you say with*quote*a ton of salt

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Patty wrote:

A fact comes from a reliable source. An opinion has nothing backing it up. I cant see where you have presented any facts. State an opinion and back it up with a reliable source as I have done and I will address it.

Putin's Patty cites "facts" from fascist New Russia propaganda sources and claims they're from a "reliable source." :shock: :shock:

Then Putin's Patty has the gall to lecture another poster about backing up an opinion with a reliable source. Amazing hypocrisy.