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May 6, 2014 14:08:40   #
Patty
 
You have been a real sweetie since your first troll. : )

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Patty wrote:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-12/imf-wants-you-pay-71-income-tax



Sicko, lady. See a doctor about medication for rabidness.

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May 6, 2014 17:24:53   #
bluejacket
 
jonhatfield wrote:
Russian sites. :-P So Patty is stating what Putin is denying, that Russians "are actually there"....promoting and organizing pro-Russian vigilante actions is what is reported by the "bought" American mainstream media...or as Patty so revealingly names, the "presstitudes."

Has Patty ever ever taken other viewpoints into consideration as possibly relevant to the truth of the situation?


If you would apply logic to your facts you would see the serious discrepancies that exist in what you believe to be the truth

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May 6, 2014 17:30:47   #
Patty
 
You are exactly right. That is why I don't think Putin is out to re-establish old borders. When he got done taking away Saakshvili's ulgy toys he pulled his men out and said. "Kill more Russians and we will be back"
bluejacket wrote:
your statement about Georgia is way off base , the Georgians started killing first by bombarding the capital of South Ossetia and the Russians were peace keepers there and they were attacked also, so the Russians did attack to save peoples lives , please get your history right not as you would like it

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May 6, 2014 18:09:50   #
danclone1
 
Are you disputing my facts,or just trying some superficial way of denying them?incidentally,I loved your definition of the Orange revolution...I can't think of anyone who thinks it was a u.s. coup attempt,other than someone who ignores how Russia,or eariler the ussr,has screwed up in the Ukraine since pre ww2.

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May 6, 2014 18:12:07   #
Patty
 
What facts have you presented. I have posted numerous links and knowledge obtained from people who live there. All you have given is an opinion.
danclone1 wrote:
Are you disputing my facts,or just trying some superficial way of denying them?incidentally,I loved your definition of the Orange revolution...I can't think of anyone who thinks it was a u.s. coup attempt,other than someone who ignores how Russia,or eariler the ussr,has screwed up in the Ukraine since pre ww2.

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May 6, 2014 18:12:59   #
danclone1
 
Please explain if you think my facts are wrong,particularly about those poor" innocents" locals who were holding govt. Buildings hostage

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May 6, 2014 18:21:00   #
Patty
 
A fact comes from a reliable source. An opinion has nothing backing it up. I cant see where you have presented any facts. State an opinion and back it up with a reliable source as I have done and I will address it.
danclone1 wrote:
Please explain if you think my facts are wrong,particularly about those poor" innocents" locals who were holding govt. Buildings hostage

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May 6, 2014 18:21:24   #
danclone1
 
Russians have killed more Ukrainians then the u.s.,Germany, or Ukrainians themself.that's why they don't trust them now...and the fixed elections(yes,there were more than one)with the resulting corruption(remember,even putin didn't deny the corruption)just hasn't helped their case.

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May 6, 2014 18:22:41   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Patty wrote:
With a death toll of at least 50 over the weekend inflicted by the Western-backed unelected, fascist ..........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zooDBxaopZY&feature=player_embedded


I do believe Putin would not have gone as far as he has if Kerry and Obama wouldn't have stuck their noses in it, attempting to 'Boss' him around.
Putin has Kerry and Obama pegged to the "T" as far as what they're made of. Put American Troops in an all out war with Russia just before November Voting???

Kerry and Obama aren't going to wage war with Russia with our Military, so they will attempt to Starve them to death with Sanctions. 8-)

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May 6, 2014 18:23:58   #
Patty
 
I already addressed that. Just how many people do you think the US has killed of people who have never done us any harm? Super powers are ruthless. What is your point?
danclone1 wrote:
Russians have killed more Ukrainians then the u.s.,Germany, or Ukrainians themself.that's why they don't trust them now...and the fixed elections(yes,there were more than one)with the resulting corruption(remember,even putin didn't deny the corruption)just hasn't helped their case.

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May 6, 2014 18:35:54   #
danclone1
 
But...but...but... there was so many times that I disputed you facts.Sometimes by showing that what you sources said was a distortion of what the source said(like when the source said that what was being reported to them should be" taken w a TON of salt),was hearsay said by a couple of diplomats with no foreseeable influence on the u.n. or Russia,or,my favorite,two ukraines who were talking what it's,while bitching about what a rotten deal Russia has been dealing them.Just cause

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May 6, 2014 18:44:24   #
Patty
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZUEBIoZu0w&feature=player_embedded Believe what you want. I will stick with the reports Im getting from the people who are there.
danclone1 wrote:
But...but...but... there was so many times that I disputed you facts.Sometimes by showing that what you sources said was a distortion of what the source said(like when the source said that what was being reported to them should be" taken w a TON of salt),was hearsay said by a couple of diplomats with no foreseeable influence on the u.n. or Russia,or,my favorite,two ukraines who were talking what it's,while bitching about what a rotten deal Russia has been dealing them.Just cause

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May 6, 2014 19:14:39   #
danclone1
 
Maybe it's how you distort what is said by these sources that doesn't make them facts,or that you are using op-ed articles is the most annoying.no it's not,it's how I've gone practically line for line with you,not necessarily disputing them,but adding background information,or checking on sources,and you telling me that I've be misinforming everyone while I proved that some of what you say is misleading
And you are right just cause you want to ignore what is being said.you have never tried to disprove anything I have said,just that I am wrong.lol especially when we are both giving opinions w

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May 6, 2014 19:20:12   #
danclone1
 
Just cause you cite a reference,it doesn't make it a support for your argument. ..or are you gonna ignore that too.while do you post,if all you are gonna do is ignore,without discussion,what other people say??wouldn't a diary be better for you to write in?

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May 6, 2014 19:30:04   #
danclone1
 
I tried listening to your last" unbiased"news feed but unfortunately I don't speak russian

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