woodguru

Numbers are about to disappear now that hospitals report their daily statistics to the white house rather than the CDC. None of the array of colleges and institutions that have been doing sophisticated tracking statistics are going to be able to get the information they have been using, states are saying they can't even see what is going on in their own states.

Suddenly changing the system used to create reports is going to create glitches, it's a bad idea and one that is truly ridiculous. There is no way we will have an uninterrupted flow of data, and it certainly will not be accurate or reliable without complete transparency and redundancy.

So now we will have to rely on perhaps the least transparent president and administration in history...a president that thinks numbers are whatever he wants them to be. Fine if you support trump and don't care, but not okay for those who want straight facts without a trump spin.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/07/16/hospital-data-reporting-covid-19/?utm_source=STAT+Newsletters&utm_campaign=246159aab6-Daily_Recap&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_8cab1d7961-246159aab6-152286618

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/dangerous-and-breeds-distrust-trump-administration-ripped-for-bypassing-cdc-with-coronavirus-data/?utm_source=push_notifications

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

BREAKING: Trump Was Right – COVID-19 Lie Exposed!
https://outragedpatriot.com/breaking-trump-was-right-covid-19-lie-exposed/

(Gateway Pundit) – They’re lying to you.

The Orange County Health Officer admitted this week that one of the coronavirus victims listed on their website — died in a motorcycle crash.

And yet they are pushing these numbers to the public to cause a panic?

Dr. Raul Pino told FOX 35: “You could actually argue that the covid had something to do with the crash. I don’t know… We are offering you the best data that we have.”



FOX 35 reported:

A person who died in a motorcycle accident was added to Florida’s COVID-19 death count, according to a state health official. FOX 35 News found this out after asking Orange County Health Officer Dr. Raul Pino whether two coronavirus victims who were in their 20s had any underlying conditions. One of his answers surprised us. “The first one didn’t have any. He died in a motorcycle accident,” Pino said. Dr. Pino was asked if the man’s data was removed. “I don’t think so. I have to double-check,” Pino said. “We were arguing, discussing, or trying to argue with the state. Not because of the numbers — it’s 100…it doesn’t make any difference if it’s 99 — but the fact that the individual didn’t die from COVID-19…died in the crash. But you could actually argue that it could have been the COVID-19 that caused him to crash. I don’t know the conclusion of that one.”

1ProudAmerican

...and yet, woody, the death rates are NOT skyrocketing as the DemonRats hoped they would. LOTS of people are positive but FEW are dying....SORRY to DISAPPOINT !!!!

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

And you actually believe all the BS put out.~~Rich~~really~~~ lololol

JoyV

The HHS portal has been in operation for a while. Many hospitals were sending data to both the HHS portal and the CDC. Others to just one or the other. The CDC had been a week behind in reporting hospital data time and again, which could delay the decisions needing to be made by other agencies and the task force. So the decision was made to have the hospitals enter their data in the HHS portal where it would be available for all. The data would not be first sent to the HHS for someone there to enter, but each hospital could enter their's directly. A much speedier proposition. The raw data could then be available to use in writing reports or studying trends, or much more.

But the CDC's response to the directive seems childish to me. First they pulled key data off their website. Then when ordered their coronavirus dashboards, they did but also announced on their site that they would no longer be updating them. It's not as if they don't have access to the data to keep them updated. The portal is available and has up to the minute hospital data.

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-07-16-20-intl/h_be4c6fadbe85b175f2edb1fcecc838e3

EmilyD

And the numbers of recovered people hit 1,680,424 from an upward escalation, too. How transparent about that are YOU being??? Trump is responsible for this upward trend, too.

JoyV

Another curious piece of info. I was curious to what our flu season numbers are for 2019-2020. In late December and at least by late January, the prediction was that we were having a particularly bad flu season. In January school classes often had high absentee numbers due to the flu. I went to Texas in late January to do team training with the child and family I trained a service dog for. While there the child got the flu. The school called the mother to pick him up. When she did she found that her son there were only 2 students left in attendance out of a class of 30. The flu cases CDC count at that time in the US was reported as just under 30 million million. I just looked up the totals and the CDC reports a total of 3 million flu cases for the 2019-2020 flu season. The average is 45 million cases. It can get as high as hundreds of millions of cases. So what happened to the nearly 27 million flu cases which disappeared from the CDC site?

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Absolutely right!

The data is not filtered through HHS, no matter how much the anti-Trumpers want it to be so. It is sent to HHS and also to the CDC. They both get the same data.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

I too was wondering how many flu cases there are. The media doesn't report these numbers anymore. Everything seems to be categorized as COVID. Our local San Diego affiliates stop reporting the number of flu cases in Early February when the first Wuhan Virus case was confirmed. they used to give an update every week and would check in with several pharmacists throughout the county to report what was going around and where hot spots are. No longer. All we get is a tally of the deaths and the number of positive test results out of the number tested. The CDC even reports that it is much easier to get a false positive, as high as 46% of those tested. One may as well flip a coin to see if they have the virus or not.

ImLogicallyRight

***So now we will have to rely on perhaps the least transparent president and administration in history..
>>>Sorry but what foes obama have to do with this?

JimMe

Obama has nothing to do with this pandemic... Anyone who even hints this is being deceitful...

But unless evidence, not supposition, is used to refute what the info shows at this time, the info available needs to seen as the info that has been available from both CDC & HHS all along...

bikerjack60

I too was wondering about the flu deaths. As well as all other deaths/ I bet you very few people actually die from covid.

Tug484

They need some oversight on these reported covid deaths.
Every time they write covid I had read it puts 24 thousand dollars in their pockets.

Radiance3

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The communist democrats have been pushing to have more virus victims by reporting inflated numbers of affected patients and the death tolls.

They have very good motive by doing this. 1. So that they could impose MAIL IN VOTING, to easily cheat and commit fraud during the election in order to win. 2. To continue the Lock Up so that people suffer, get hungry and don't vote for president Trump. 3. To prevent kids from going back to school so the country become desperately angry against the president, and therefore won't vote for him.

JoyV

The figure should have read 30 million, not 30 million million. Sorry!