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Jul 13, 2020 13:40:54   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
WHO WERE THE REAL SLAVE OWNERS AT THE HEIGHT OF SLAVERY? - IT'S NOT WHO YOU THINK

In light of all of the talks about slavery recently amid the protests, I wanted to share some information that I found helpful.
Die-hard liberals want to try and accuse every white person for being a slave owner or a decent of a slave owner by virtue of simply being white. But is that really the case?
When you look at the 1860 Census data and take the averages you end up with about 1.3% of the population in the United States that actually owned slaves at the height of slavery.

This includes slave owners that were white, native American and black. All three peoples owned slaves.
But here is something more important. Look at these names:

JP Morgan, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, New York Life, Tiffany & Co, Aetna, Brooks Brothers, Norfolk Southern Railroad, AIG, Wachovia, USA Today, Lehman Brothers, N M Rothschild & Sons Bank in London, Fleetboston, Brown Brothers Harriman, Canadian National Railway Company, Barclays, Brown University, Dartmouth College, Rutgers, Princeton, Harvard and Yale.
Why mention those companies you may wonder. It's because I want to show you the correlation between large corporations and slavery.

Since the census data reflects that approximately 1.3% of the population owned slaves, I would feel safe saying that the majority of slaves were owned by big corporations, given the way that they are enslaving us and marketing social justice now.
Most of the white working-class Americans you walk past every day on the street probably have no direct connection to a single slave owner. On the other hand, the U.S. corporate nepotism machine has a slew of them.
These same institutions that profited from slavery also profit from private prisons.
Scapegoating slavery solely on anyone white was done on purpose, as usual, to keep us from looking at the 1%. The top global corporations who enslave us today.
Slavery was a business model, not just something that people did for fun. And those on top of the economic business chain today solidified their positions due to slavery. They built their successful businesses on the backs of slaves.
Your average blue-collar or 9-5 working white person likely does not have a bloodline connection to a single slave owner while Jacob Rothchild does.
At the end of slavery, these corporations still needed a way to maintain control of their fortunes without being so they made the face of slavery the white man, in general, to steer the spotlight off of them.
This way the poor whites and poor blacks would have friction while the wealthy elite who were the primary benefactors of slavery can play on both sides to keep the attention off of themselves.
Everything ill that happens to society from the Holocaust to slavery was propagated by the same rich banking cartels to include our endless wars.
The white co-worker or supervisor is not the enemy, in fact, he has the same enemy that every American does!
They will always push race issues as people start to wake up to keep the heat off of themselves.
The same corporations that enslave us in debt now were the same ones who enslaved people then.
At best a few suburban white families may have held some in-home servants but it was the wealthy elite who provided, and established the largest plantations.
Ironically roughly 1.3% still control all of today's wealth so those rich people screaming Black Lives Matter while marketing products are wealthy due to slavery and are unapologetic of it.
The white taxpayer doesn't owe anyone any reparations. IF anyone owes reparations it's the large corporations that were built on the backs of slaves.
So let's all get along with one another.

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Jul 13, 2020 14:20:26   #
Sew_What
 
Wow, I guess it wasn't state's rights after all, just corporate greed...really...who cares?

....or stop with the "what about -ism's".

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Jul 13, 2020 14:51:54   #
MStem
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
WHO WERE THE REAL SLAVE OWNERS AT THE HEIGHT OF SLAVERY? - IT'S NOT WHO YOU THINK

In light of all of the talks about slavery recently amid the protests, I wanted to share some information that I found helpful.
Die-hard liberals want to try and accuse every white person for being a slave owner or a decent of a slave owner by virtue of simply being white. But is that really the case?
When you look at the 1860 Census data and take the averages you end up with about 1.3% of the population in the United States that actually owned slaves at the height of slavery.

This includes slave owners that were white, native American and black. All three peoples owned slaves.
But here is something more important. Look at these names:

JP Morgan, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, New York Life, Tiffany & Co, Aetna, Brooks Brothers, Norfolk Southern Railroad, AIG, Wachovia, USA Today, Lehman Brothers, N M Rothschild & Sons Bank in London, Fleetboston, Brown Brothers Harriman, Canadian National Railway Company, Barclays, Brown University, Dartmouth College, Rutgers, Princeton, Harvard and Yale.
Why mention those companies you may wonder. It's because I want to show you the correlation between large corporations and slavery.

Since the census data reflects that approximately 1.3% of the population owned slaves, I would feel safe saying that the majority of slaves were owned by big corporations, given the way that they are enslaving us and marketing social justice now.
Most of the white working-class Americans you walk past every day on the street probably have no direct connection to a single slave owner. On the other hand, the U.S. corporate nepotism machine has a slew of them.
These same institutions that profited from slavery also profit from private prisons.
Scapegoating slavery solely on anyone white was done on purpose, as usual, to keep us from looking at the 1%. The top global corporations who enslave us today.
Slavery was a business model, not just something that people did for fun. And those on top of the economic business chain today solidified their positions due to slavery. They built their successful businesses on the backs of slaves.
Your average blue-collar or 9-5 working white person likely does not have a bloodline connection to a single slave owner while Jacob Rothchild does.
At the end of slavery, these corporations still needed a way to maintain control of their fortunes without being so they made the face of slavery the white man, in general, to steer the spotlight off of them.
This way the poor whites and poor blacks would have friction while the wealthy elite who were the primary benefactors of slavery can play on both sides to keep the attention off of themselves.
Everything ill that happens to society from the Holocaust to slavery was propagated by the same rich banking cartels to include our endless wars.
The white co-worker or supervisor is not the enemy, in fact, he has the same enemy that every American does!
They will always push race issues as people start to wake up to keep the heat off of themselves.
The same corporations that enslave us in debt now were the same ones who enslaved people then.
At best a few suburban white families may have held some in-home servants but it was the wealthy elite who provided, and established the largest plantations.
Ironically roughly 1.3% still control all of today's wealth so those rich people screaming Black Lives Matter while marketing products are wealthy due to slavery and are unapologetic of it.
The white taxpayer doesn't owe anyone any reparations. IF anyone owes reparations it's the large corporations that were built on the backs of slaves.
So let's all get along with one another.
WHO WERE THE REAL SLAVE OWNERS AT THE HEIGHT OF SL... (show quote)

You’re right that there were white, black, and Native American owners of slaves in the South. You’d be right in saying that until 1856, most slaves entered the US through New York and Boston, and that the elites of those cities are descended from those who profited from slavery.
You’d be completely right in saying that the top 0.01% of wealth-holders control 95% of US media, the five multinational corporations that own US media, and indeed the leadership of both major parties.

But. Slavery.

I’m not excusing the behavior of people who have hijacked the civil rights movement, but let’s look at what it did to people.

It made them commodities. There are US citizens who don’t even know from where their ancestors came, because they can’t find out. Their ancestors were shipped like cattle. Unfortunately, states’ laws were also written so that giving freedom to a slave was illegal, or only exposed them to further peril.

In Louisiana, Maryland, South Carolina, and Virginia, free blacks owned more than 10,000 slaves, according to the federal census of 1830. Some actually bought their relatives from other slave owners. They didn’t free them because it wasn’t safe to, until laws were changed.

What globalists are doing now is WRONG.

But please let’s not forget what slavery was.

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Jul 13, 2020 15:32:37   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
MStem wrote:
You’re right that there were white, black, and Native American owners of slaves in the South. You’d be right in saying that until 1856, most slaves entered the US through New York and Boston, and that the elites of those cities are descended from those who profited from slavery.
You’d be completely right in saying that the top 0.01% of wealth-holders control 95% of US media, the five multinational corporations that own US media, and indeed the leadership of both major parties.

But. Slavery.

I’m not excusing the behavior of people who have hijacked the civil rights movement, but let’s look at what it did to people.

It made them commodities. There are US citizens who don’t even know from where their ancestors came, because they can’t find out. Their ancestors were shipped like cattle. Unfortunately, states’ laws were also written so that giving freedom to a slave was illegal, or only exposed them to further peril.

In Louisiana, Maryland, South Carolina, and Virginia, free blacks owned more than 10,000 slaves, according to the federal census of 1830. Some actually bought their relatives from other slave owners. They didn’t free them because it wasn’t safe to, until laws were changed.

What globalists are doing now is WRONG.

But please let’s not forget what slavery was.
You’re right that there were white, black, and Nat... (show quote)


Yes! Lets Not!



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Jul 13, 2020 15:38:31   #
MStem
 
The point is that there were people, whether white or red or black, who actually inherited human beings. AS PROPERTY. And regardless of whether they found it repugnant or not, to simply release the slave exposed that slave to further danger.
The institution was, in itself, WRONG.

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Jul 13, 2020 15:39:44   #
Big Dolly
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
WHO WERE THE REAL SLAVE OWNERS AT THE HEIGHT OF SLAVERY? - IT'S NOT WHO YOU THINK

In light of all of the talks about slavery recently amid the protests, I wanted to share some information that I found helpful.
Die-hard liberals want to try and accuse every white person for being a slave owner or a decent of a slave owner by virtue of simply being white. But is that really the case?
When you look at the 1860 Census data and take the averages you end up with about 1.3% of the population in the United States that actually owned slaves at the height of slavery.

This includes slave owners that were white, native American and black. All three peoples owned slaves.
But here is something more important. Look at these names:

JP Morgan, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, New York Life, Tiffany & Co, Aetna, Brooks Brothers, Norfolk Southern Railroad, AIG, Wachovia, USA Today, Lehman Brothers, N M Rothschild & Sons Bank in London, Fleetboston, Brown Brothers Harriman, Canadian National Railway Company, Barclays, Brown University, Dartmouth College, Rutgers, Princeton, Harvard and Yale.
Why mention those companies you may wonder. It's because I want to show you the correlation between large corporations and slavery.

Since the census data reflects that approximately 1.3% of the population owned slaves, I would feel safe saying that the majority of slaves were owned by big corporations, given the way that they are enslaving us and marketing social justice now.
Most of the white working-class Americans you walk past every day on the street probably have no direct connection to a single slave owner. On the other hand, the U.S. corporate nepotism machine has a slew of them.
These same institutions that profited from slavery also profit from private prisons.
Scapegoating slavery solely on anyone white was done on purpose, as usual, to keep us from looking at the 1%. The top global corporations who enslave us today.
Slavery was a business model, not just something that people did for fun. And those on top of the economic business chain today solidified their positions due to slavery. They built their successful businesses on the backs of slaves.
Your average blue-collar or 9-5 working white person likely does not have a bloodline connection to a single slave owner while Jacob Rothchild does.
At the end of slavery, these corporations still needed a way to maintain control of their fortunes without being so they made the face of slavery the white man, in general, to steer the spotlight off of them.
This way the poor whites and poor blacks would have friction while the wealthy elite who were the primary benefactors of slavery can play on both sides to keep the attention off of themselves.
Everything ill that happens to society from the Holocaust to slavery was propagated by the same rich banking cartels to include our endless wars.
The white co-worker or supervisor is not the enemy, in fact, he has the same enemy that every American does!
They will always push race issues as people start to wake up to keep the heat off of themselves.
The same corporations that enslave us in debt now were the same ones who enslaved people then.
At best a few suburban white families may have held some in-home servants but it was the wealthy elite who provided, and established the largest plantations.
Ironically roughly 1.3% still control all of today's wealth so those rich people screaming Black Lives Matter while marketing products are wealthy due to slavery and are unapologetic of it.
The white taxpayer doesn't owe anyone any reparations. IF anyone owes reparations it's the large corporations that were built on the backs of slaves.
So let's all get along with one another.
WHO WERE THE REAL SLAVE OWNERS AT THE HEIGHT OF SL... (show quote)


Actually, in my case, you're preaching to the choir. Amen and amen.

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Jul 13, 2020 15:46:57   #
Big Dolly
 
MStem wrote:
The point is that there were people, whether white or red or black, who actually inherited human beings. AS PROPERTY. And regardless of whether they found it repugnant or not, to simply release the slave exposed that slave to further danger.
The institution was, in itself, WRONG.


I think I was in 5th grade when we began studying about slavery. I recalled thinking to myself, "Ewww! How can anybody DO that? Buy and sell PEOPLE?!!". That is SERIOUSLY CREEPY!! And I do NOT do creepy at ANY age!!!

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Jul 14, 2020 13:43:19   #
John Meoff
 
MStem wrote:
You’re right that there were white, black, and Native American owners of slaves in the South. You’d be right in saying that until 1856, most slaves entered the US through New York and Boston, and that the elites of those cities are descended from those who profited from slavery.
You’d be completely right in saying that the top 0.01% of wealth-holders control 95% of US media, the five multinational corporations that own US media, and indeed the leadership of both major parties.

But. Slavery.

I’m not excusing the behavior of people who have hijacked the civil rights movement, but let’s look at what it did to people.

It made them commodities. There are US citizens who don’t even know from where their ancestors came, because they can’t find out. Their ancestors were shipped like cattle. Unfortunately, states’ laws were also written so that giving freedom to a slave was illegal, or only exposed them to further peril.

In Louisiana, Maryland, South Carolina, and Virginia, free blacks owned more than 10,000 slaves, according to the federal census of 1830. Some actually bought their relatives from other slave owners. They didn’t free them because it wasn’t safe to, until laws were changed.

What globalists are doing now is WRONG.

But please let’s not forget what slavery was.
You’re right that there were white, black, and Nat... (show quote)



Thomas Sowell documented that there were a large number of abolitionist societies in all of the slave states including South Carolina where, I believe, he wrote more than in all of New England during the 1830s.

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Jul 14, 2020 13:50:30   #
MStem
 
Interestingly, two leading American abolitionists were the Grimke sisters of South Carolina. They were Quakers who were excommunicated for speaking and writing publicly on the subject. Quakers didn’t agree with slavery, but those gals should have stayed in the kitchen, don’t you know? The Grimkes and other suffragettes fought for the black vote, as well.
Sadly, Frederick Douglass and his gang threw the suffragettes under the bus in 1869, giving black men the vote, and delaying it another fifty years for women.

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Jul 14, 2020 17:29:35   #
JoyV
 
MStem wrote:
You’re right that there were white, black, and Native American owners of slaves in the South. You’d be right in saying that until 1856, most slaves entered the US through New York and Boston, and that the elites of those cities are descended from those who profited from slavery.
You’d be completely right in saying that the top 0.01% of wealth-holders control 95% of US media, the five multinational corporations that own US media, and indeed the leadership of both major parties.

But. Slavery.

I’m not excusing the behavior of people who have hijacked the civil rights movement, but let’s look at what it did to people.

It made them commodities. There are US citizens who don’t even know from where their ancestors came, because they can’t find out. Their ancestors were shipped like cattle. Unfortunately, states’ laws were also written so that giving freedom to a slave was illegal, or only exposed them to further peril.

In Louisiana, Maryland, South Carolina, and Virginia, free blacks owned more than 10,000 slaves, according to the federal census of 1830. Some actually bought their relatives from other slave owners. They didn’t free them because it wasn’t safe to, until laws were changed.

What globalists are doing now is WRONG.

But please let’s not forget what slavery was.
You’re right that there were white, black, and Nat... (show quote)


SOME blacks bought slaves to protect them. But that was not the norm. The first black slave in the North American colonies was originally an indentured servant to a black man who didn't want to release him when he had served his indenturement. It went to court and the court ruled indenturement could be made permanent. Before this, the only outright slaves in the colonies were American Indians. Later there were Irish sold as slaves as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Johnson_(colonist)

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Jul 14, 2020 23:57:40   #
silentcalfan
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
WHO WERE THE REAL SLAVE OWNERS AT THE HEIGHT OF SLAVERY? - IT'S NOT WHO YOU THINK

In light of all of the talks about slavery recently amid the protests, I wanted to share some information that I found helpful.
Die-hard liberals want to try and accuse every white person for being a slave owner or a decent of a slave owner by virtue of simply being white. But is that really the case?
When you look at the 1860 Census data and take the averages you end up with about 1.3% of the population in the United States that actually owned slaves at the height of slavery.

This includes slave owners that were white, native American and black. All three peoples owned slaves.
But here is something more important. Look at these names:

JP Morgan, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, New York Life, Tiffany & Co, Aetna, Brooks Brothers, Norfolk Southern Railroad, AIG, Wachovia, USA Today, Lehman Brothers, N M Rothschild & Sons Bank in London, Fleetboston, Brown Brothers Harriman, Canadian National Railway Company, Barclays, Brown University, Dartmouth College, Rutgers, Princeton, Harvard and Yale.
Why mention those companies you may wonder. It's because I want to show you the correlation between large corporations and slavery.

Since the census data reflects that approximately 1.3% of the population owned slaves, I would feel safe saying that the majority of slaves were owned by big corporations, given the way that they are enslaving us and marketing social justice now.
Most of the white working-class Americans you walk past every day on the street probably have no direct connection to a single slave owner. On the other hand, the U.S. corporate nepotism machine has a slew of them.
These same institutions that profited from slavery also profit from private prisons.
Scapegoating slavery solely on anyone white was done on purpose, as usual, to keep us from looking at the 1%. The top global corporations who enslave us today.
Slavery was a business model, not just something that people did for fun. And those on top of the economic business chain today solidified their positions due to slavery. They built their successful businesses on the backs of slaves.
Your average blue-collar or 9-5 working white person likely does not have a bloodline connection to a single slave owner while Jacob Rothchild does.
At the end of slavery, these corporations still needed a way to maintain control of their fortunes without being so they made the face of slavery the white man, in general, to steer the spotlight off of them.
This way the poor whites and poor blacks would have friction while the wealthy elite who were the primary benefactors of slavery can play on both sides to keep the attention off of themselves.
Everything ill that happens to society from the Holocaust to slavery was propagated by the same rich banking cartels to include our endless wars.
The white co-worker or supervisor is not the enemy, in fact, he has the same enemy that every American does!
They will always push race issues as people start to wake up to keep the heat off of themselves.
The same corporations that enslave us in debt now were the same ones who enslaved people then.
At best a few suburban white families may have held some in-home servants but it was the wealthy elite who provided, and established the largest plantations.
Ironically roughly 1.3% still control all of today's wealth so those rich people screaming Black Lives Matter while marketing products are wealthy due to slavery and are unapologetic of it.
The white taxpayer doesn't owe anyone any reparations. IF anyone owes reparations it's the large corporations that were built on the backs of slaves.
So let's all get along with one another.
WHO WERE THE REAL SLAVE OWNERS AT THE HEIGHT OF SL... (show quote)


Your list of corporations is bogus. Bank of America was started in the 1920s in Los Angeles. Wells Fargo was started in the 1850s in San Francisco. Both banks had offices only in California. JP Morgan was a 20-year old student when he went to work in a bank in 1857. None of your first three corporations had anything at all to do with slavery. I suspect the rest of the companies you name are equally bogus.

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Jul 15, 2020 10:32:19   #
MStem
 
silentcalfan wrote:
Your list of corporations is bogus. Bank of America was started in the 1920s in Los Angeles. Wells Fargo was started in the 1850s in San Francisco. Both banks had offices only in California. JP Morgan was a 20-year old student when he went to work in a bank in 1857. None of your first three corporations had anything at all to do with slavery. I suspect the rest of the companies you name are equally bogus.


I also wondered about that, and so did a little brief research, into only one of the companies. JP Morgan’s family and he himself, did indeed profit from the slave trade.
“ By September 2000, I had completed research around Chase Manhattan Bank. Using the online New York State Banking History Database, I traced two of JP Morgan Chase’s earlier banks, The Merchant’s Bank of New York, and The Leather Manufacturers Bank of New York, to a slave policy circular. They are listed as the exclusive bankers for a $2.5 million venture in writing slave life insurance policies in 1852. This amount of money is substantial for that time. Other slave policy writing ventures I have encountered did not exceed $300,000 in capital investments.”
https://academic.udayton.edu/race/02rights/repara30.htm

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Jul 15, 2020 10:33:52   #
MStem
 
More dirty hands...
https://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/13/us/brown-u-to-examine-debt-to-slave-trade.html
And
http://political-apologies.wlu.ca/searchresults.php?searchtype=simple&keywords=New%20York%20Life%20Insurance%20Company

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Jul 22, 2020 11:54:41   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
silentcalfan wrote:
Your list of corporations is bogus. Bank of America was started in the 1920s in Los Angeles. Wells Fargo was started in the 1850s in San Francisco. Both banks had offices only in California. JP Morgan was a 20-year old student when he went to work in a bank in 1857. None of your first three corporations had anything at all to do with slavery. I suspect the rest of the companies you name are equally bogus.


You have been Duped!

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Jul 22, 2020 17:12:30   #
silentcalfan
 
So it looks like I was right about Bank of America and Wells Fargo, and wrong about JP Morgan. None of that matters anyway. No one born in the last 150 years in the USA was a slave or a slaveholder. I don't believe the "sins" of the American fathers are visited upon their sons. I put "sins" in quotes because slavery was an ancient, accepted, and world wide phenomenon in the 18th Century. But our Founding Fathers may have been the first in the world to take steps to do away with slavery which had been foisted upon them by the British. Our Founders wrote a Constitution which provided for abolition of the slave trade beginning in 1808, and enacted such legislation in 1807 to be effective in 1808. All the northern states had abolished slavery by then. Getting rid of slavery completely required the Civil War. America has a proud history of eventually doing away with other unfair systems such as denial of various civil rights to women. America is not perfect, and will never be because all humans are imperfect, but America always strives to get better.

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