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Jun 28, 2020 15:53:38   #
moldyoldy
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
Maybe the local police in Democrat run cities and states do - I can't vouch for that. But I said FBI statistics.


I was a cop in the early seventies, and each year the FBI would give us instructions on Reporting crime statistics. We could see the trends in what they wanted to emphasize each year.

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Jun 28, 2020 16:15:19   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I was a cop in the early seventies, and each year the FBI would give us instructions on Reporting crime statistics. We could see the trends in what they wanted to emphasize each year.
Maybe you could elaborate. But even so, you cannot substantiate what you said about "thousands wrongfully killed", since your implication is that this is at the hands of police brutality (as opposed to police defending themselves and others). Do we all agree that there are people who shouldn't be police (or soldiers, or boy scout leaders, or priests, or whatev)? of course we do. But when you make general statements about the police based on something a very few of them do, you not doing anyone any favors. Would you still want to be in law enforcement in the current environment? Were you a good police officer, or were you one of the bad apples. What would you say the ratio of good officers to bad officers was back then or now. And by the way, thank you for serving, no matter how little we may agree on things. I did the soldier thing, but I don't think I could handle being a police officer, especially not in this day and age.

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Jun 28, 2020 16:31:43   #
bahmer
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
Maybe you could elaborate. But even so, you cannot substantiate what you said about "thousands wrongfully killed", since your implication is that this is at the hands of police brutality (as opposed to police defending themselves and others). Do we all agree that there are people who shouldn't be police (or soldiers, or boy scout leaders, or priests, or whatev)? of course we do. But when you make general statements about the police based on something a very few of them do, you not doing anyone any favors. Would you still want to be in law enforcement in the current environment? Were you a good police officer, or were you one of the bad apples. What would you say the ratio of good officers to bad officers was back then or now. And by the way, thank you for serving, no matter how little we may agree on things. I did the soldier thing, but I don't think I could handle being a police officer, especially not in this day and age.
Maybe you could elaborate. But even so, you cannot... (show quote)


Amen and Amen

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Jun 28, 2020 17:17:51   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Capt-jack wrote:
The REAL George Floyd. Who is he?


One can no longer grieve for George Floyd in the same manner after seeing this. Yes, I agree it was a terrible way for him to die and nobody deserves that kind of treatment from the police or anybody else for that matter. But the mainstream news media has made him out to be a real hero. However after some research into his background we find evidence to quite the contrary. He has been a career criminal. The media tells us how he was trying to turn his life around. If so, why was he found in possession of a large amount of counterfeit money? What was he planning to do with that money?
Below is an actual set of arrest records found on the Harris County website which show 9 different arrests by Harris County Authorities.

George Floyd is not nor has he ever been a hero as the media would like us to believe. He had a lengthy record of law breaking when he lived in Houston. A copy of that record is provided here below: It includes Aggravated Robbery with a deadly weapon, Possession with intent to deliver drugs, Three Times - Manufacture with intent to deliver drugs, Trespass of private property with forced breaking and entering with theft, Possession of a controlled substance, Failure to Identify himself to a police officer (this likely meant carry a fake ID), Theft $50 to $500 dollars, Theft from a person (this was a single woman and he forced his way into her home. When she screamed for help he knocked her out with his gun and robbed her house) This was all over a 10 year period! (see copy of actual record below on file with the Harris County District Clerk's Office)

And yet there is not a word on any of the Mainstream News media about this. All we hear is what a great man George Floyd was. Could the media be responsible for what is happening to our nation right now? I believe so. They may not have committed the terrible things happening but they very well may have lit the fuse and handed the people the gasoline.

So I grieve now for AMERICA.
Here are just a few incidents that show why everyone should be grieving.

ANTIFA Terrorists set a homeless man's belongings on fire as he slept on the streets. They destroyed what little he had left.

Terrorists beat a store owner unconscious, for trying to defend his store. They left him for dead and he passes away from the terrible injuries he sustained. Who grieves for him and his family? Terrorists took the little hope that some small business owners had,
while they were already devastated by the coronavirus lockdown. The little hope they still held for their future, was extinguished by crazed rampaging thugs and ANTIFA terrorists. ANTIFA Terrorists burned horses ALIVE, that were trapped in a Horse Trailer
and could not escape the flames.

ANTIFA Terrorists set fire to a luxury car dealership destroying his entire inventory.

ANTIFA Terrorists set fire to St. John's Church in Washington DC. (Â The cornerstone of St. John’s was set on September 14, 1815. Every president, beginning with James Madison up until the present day, has gone to that church.)

ANTIFA Terrorists set fire to a black-owned sports bar and then tried to steal the Liquor that wasn't burned up.

ANTIFA Terrorists overturned a police car, and to add insult to injury, a woman climbs up on the overturned squad car and relieves herself on it and is cheered on by all the onlookers.

82 people were shot and 19 are dead in Chicago this past weekend, and no one even cares to mention it.

The List goes on and on

Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Officer was shot in the back of the head while struggling with a very violent rioter. An active shooter opened fire on law enforcement officers at a Las Vegas courthouse.

4 St. Louis Police Officers were shot by an active shooter. New York Police Officer was struck by a vehicle and his injuries were life-threatening.

3 Buffalo New York law enforcement officers were struck by a vehicle in front of the police station.

3 Davenport law enforcement officers were ambushed and 1 was shot dead. The other 2 were seriously wounded.

132 officers have injured in Chicago during a rioting. 9 Pittsburg officers were injured by bricks and other objects being hurled at them during a riot.

Several officers in Rhode Island were injured during riots.

An active shooter opened fire at the Oakland, CA Police Department.

2 officers were struck in the head with bricks in Santa Ana, CA.

2 Richland officers were shot in Virginia.1 officer was struck in the head by a brick in Albany, GA.

4 Prince William County Police Officers sustained head injuries from various projectiles.

7 officers were injured in Sacramento.

Several officers were shot at and injured in Lynchburg, VA.

Several Champaign, Illinois Police Officers were injured.

3 Oakland Law Officers were injured.2

1 officers were injured in Salt Lake City.

At least 50 Secret Service Agents were injured by Molotov cocktails in Washington while defending the White House.

3 Denver Police Officers were ran down on purpose by a vehicle.33 New York Police Officers were injured during riots.

6 Athens, GA Police Officers were seriously injured during a protest.

2 Capitol Police Officers were injured during a riot in Harrisburg, PA.

12 Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Officers were injured during riots.

21 Minneapolis law enforcement officers suffered various injuries in riots. Some were hospitalized.

1 Federal Protective Services Officer was shot and killed!

Just in case your local news outlets neglect to keep you updated on what law enforcement officers are experiencing these past few days.

I would sadly venture to say that this list is not by any means complete.

No, it was not right for George Floyd to die the way he did. But I no longer grieve for Mr. George Floyd. I grieve for AMERICA.

And, right now, ANTIFA Domestic Terrorists have their knee on the throats of all AMERICANS and WE THE PEOPLE can't breathe.

Still, some Mayors and Governors are reluctant to restore law and order to their cities and states. Some police officers are afraid to act because they are constantly being filmed and watched closely by those who hate the police. Their job just became 10 times harder and I feel for those who do their job properly every single day. Because of the actions of a handful of bad cops, we cannot assume all cops are bad. But that is what ANTIFA Domestic Terrorists are all about. They delight in opposing all authority and inciting riots. Unless we get control of this situation we are headed for anarchy and we are very nearly there already.

And isn't it strange how the Coronavirus has suddenly become second fiddle to
George Floyd!


How much longer are WE Law abiding Americans going to tolerate this lawlessness?
The REAL George Floyd. Who is he? br br br One... (show quote)


And you still believe he died? He may have, someone did. Did you ever go to Brighteon.com or ProjectVeritas and see the tweet from Obama a week earlier? How did he know George Floyd would be killed? Interesting??

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Jun 28, 2020 17:19:16   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The cop with his knee on his neck, with his hands in his pockets, looking around with a face that said, what are you going to do about it. That is what I see.


The whole thing was crisis actors and you bought it.

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Jun 28, 2020 17:22:28   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The greatest percentage of protesters are not looters or rioters. But a large percentage of those breaking windows are whites. It should be obvious that they are trying to taint the protesters. Just like all the fake antifa stories.


blm-the three feminazi sisters, and a handful of useful fools same for antifa but leave out the sisters, the whites well off-whites are cair and muslim brotherhood.

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Jun 28, 2020 17:26:36   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
bestpal38 wrote:
Saw an awful lot of Blacks with "free stuff". So let me understand what you are saying here. Most of the protesters behaved themselves, so lets give a pass to the ones that were not?? But one rogue cop makes them all bad right?? Great logic. And yes I agree a lot of the window breakers were white, but then again, there were an awful lot of white millenials out protesting (and rioting) with the blacks.


The protestors ONLY behaved themselves when they saw that they'd be shot otherwise. I stopped a few lootings. I won't go into how few knew George Floyd's name. "Is it something racial bro?"

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Jun 28, 2020 17:27:55   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Sounds like you watch things that reinforce your biased opinions.


Only telling you what I've seen first hand.

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Jun 28, 2020 17:53:54   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
okie don wrote:
He was not a veteran and Pelosie gave his family a flag???
Figure this out...


Nothing to figure, that was a Pelosy special halfwit deal.

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Jun 28, 2020 17:56:24   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The police data base only records what the politicians want recorded at any given year.


No, what the fbi wants recorded, then the nsa gets it although usually priorities are 1.cops, 2. nsa, 3. fbi. Want true stats? Go to the nsa, but find a friendly agent or be laughed out.

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Jun 28, 2020 18:00:09   #
moldyoldy
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
Maybe you could elaborate. But even so, you cannot substantiate what you said about "thousands wrongfully killed", since your implication is that this is at the hands of police brutality (as opposed to police defending themselves and others). Do we all agree that there are people who shouldn't be police (or soldiers, or boy scout leaders, or priests, or whatev)? of course we do. But when you make general statements about the police based on something a very few of them do, you not doing anyone any favors. Would you still want to be in law enforcement in the current environment? Were you a good police officer, or were you one of the bad apples. What would you say the ratio of good officers to bad officers was back then or now. And by the way, thank you for serving, no matter how little we may agree on things. I did the soldier thing, but I don't think I could handle being a police officer, especially not in this day and age.
Maybe you could elaborate. But even so, you cannot... (show quote)



Until videos started coming out, people did not believe what was really happening. Even with video there is rarely an indictment. Before video it was open season on minorities, that is why I say thousands. Bad cops learn from other bad cops. Chauvin kneeling on Floyd’s neck was also training the other cops. You see what they were learning.

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Jun 28, 2020 21:48:51   #
Ridge Runner
 
Your post is truly great. It is a strong indictment of the present barbaric action of so called protestors.

The present mob behavior is horrible. They are a mob I don't see how they can be characterized otherwise. America has challenges relating to negative issues. But there is a framework within The US Constituan to address these issues. There is redress in the Judicial, Executive and Legislative branch of the government.

If the present protesters actually think there is an instant utopia with wave of magic wand then they are naive.

I had a cursory impression that slavery was multifaceted issue, However with less than half an hour research on the internet, the history of the extent of slavery and the various parties involved is overwhelming.

Slavery has occurred throughout human history, there have been many people involved from all backgrounds, and slavery was part of the economic structure. At one time, England was considering joining forces with the confederacy because their textile industry was devastated because of the lack of cotton. Issues are not all "black and white" when you give them serious consideration.

In light of the present mindset, slavery was wrong. But looting and rioting is wrong and counter productive. Do you really want a dictatorship? In the extremes of human behavior, you might get a dictator. It has happened before. Consider Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea and China.

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Jun 28, 2020 21:53:08   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Black lives have never much mattered to other blacks. It was black people that killed and captured other blacks in Africa and sold them to whites. Not being racist but factual.
Ridge Runner wrote:
Your post is truly great. It is a strong indictment of the present barbaric action of so called protestors.

The present mob behavior is horrible. They are a mob I don't see how they can be characterized otherwise. America has challenges relating to negative issues. But there is a framework within The US Constituan to address these issues. There is redress in the Judicial, Executive and Legislative branch of the government.

If the present protesters actually think there is an instant utopia with wave of magic wand then they are naive.

I had a cursory impression that slavery was multifaceted issue, However with less than half an hour research on the internet, the history of the extent of slavery and the various parties involved is overwhelming.

Slavery has occurred throughout human history, there have been many people involved from all backgrounds, and slavery was part of the economic structure. At one time, England was considering joining forces with the confederacy because their textile industry was devastated because of the lack of cotton. Issues are not all "black and white" when you give them serious consideration.

In light of the present mindset, slavery was wrong. But looting and rioting is wrong and counter productive. Do you really want a dictatorship? In the extremes of human behavior, you might get a dictator. It has happened before. Consider Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea and China.
Your post is truly great. It is a strong indictme... (show quote)

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Jun 28, 2020 22:55:31   #
Ricktloml
 
Capt-jack wrote:
The REAL George Floyd. Who is he?


One can no longer grieve for George Floyd in the same manner after seeing this. Yes, I agree it was a terrible way for him to die and nobody deserves that kind of treatment from the police or anybody else for that matter. But the mainstream news media has made him out to be a real hero. However after some research into his background we find evidence to quite the contrary. He has been a career criminal. The media tells us how he was trying to turn his life around. If so, why was he found in possession of a large amount of counterfeit money? What was he planning to do with that money?
Below is an actual set of arrest records found on the Harris County website which show 9 different arrests by Harris County Authorities.

George Floyd is not nor has he ever been a hero as the media would like us to believe. He had a lengthy record of law breaking when he lived in Houston. A copy of that record is provided here below: It includes Aggravated Robbery with a deadly weapon, Possession with intent to deliver drugs, Three Times - Manufacture with intent to deliver drugs, Trespass of private property with forced breaking and entering with theft, Possession of a controlled substance, Failure to Identify himself to a police officer (this likely meant carry a fake ID), Theft $50 to $500 dollars, Theft from a person (this was a single woman and he forced his way into her home. When she screamed for help he knocked her out with his gun and robbed her house) This was all over a 10 year period! (see copy of actual record below on file with the Harris County District Clerk's Office)

And yet there is not a word on any of the Mainstream News media about this. All we hear is what a great man George Floyd was. Could the media be responsible for what is happening to our nation right now? I believe so. They may not have committed the terrible things happening but they very well may have lit the fuse and handed the people the gasoline.

So I grieve now for AMERICA.
Here are just a few incidents that show why everyone should be grieving.

ANTIFA Terrorists set a homeless man's belongings on fire as he slept on the streets. They destroyed what little he had left.

Terrorists beat a store owner unconscious, for trying to defend his store. They left him for dead and he passes away from the terrible injuries he sustained. Who grieves for him and his family? Terrorists took the little hope that some small business owners had,
while they were already devastated by the coronavirus lockdown. The little hope they still held for their future, was extinguished by crazed rampaging thugs and ANTIFA terrorists. ANTIFA Terrorists burned horses ALIVE, that were trapped in a Horse Trailer
and could not escape the flames.

ANTIFA Terrorists set fire to a luxury car dealership destroying his entire inventory.

ANTIFA Terrorists set fire to St. John's Church in Washington DC. (Â The cornerstone of St. John’s was set on September 14, 1815. Every president, beginning with James Madison up until the present day, has gone to that church.)

ANTIFA Terrorists set fire to a black-owned sports bar and then tried to steal the Liquor that wasn't burned up.

ANTIFA Terrorists overturned a police car, and to add insult to injury, a woman climbs up on the overturned squad car and relieves herself on it and is cheered on by all the onlookers.

82 people were shot and 19 are dead in Chicago this past weekend, and no one even cares to mention it.

The List goes on and on

Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Officer was shot in the back of the head while struggling with a very violent rioter. An active shooter opened fire on law enforcement officers at a Las Vegas courthouse.

4 St. Louis Police Officers were shot by an active shooter. New York Police Officer was struck by a vehicle and his injuries were life-threatening.

3 Buffalo New York law enforcement officers were struck by a vehicle in front of the police station.

3 Davenport law enforcement officers were ambushed and 1 was shot dead. The other 2 were seriously wounded.

132 officers have injured in Chicago during a rioting. 9 Pittsburg officers were injured by bricks and other objects being hurled at them during a riot.

Several officers in Rhode Island were injured during riots.

An active shooter opened fire at the Oakland, CA Police Department.

2 officers were struck in the head with bricks in Santa Ana, CA.

2 Richland officers were shot in Virginia.1 officer was struck in the head by a brick in Albany, GA.

4 Prince William County Police Officers sustained head injuries from various projectiles.

7 officers were injured in Sacramento.

Several officers were shot at and injured in Lynchburg, VA.

Several Champaign, Illinois Police Officers were injured.

3 Oakland Law Officers were injured.2

1 officers were injured in Salt Lake City.

At least 50 Secret Service Agents were injured by Molotov cocktails in Washington while defending the White House.

3 Denver Police Officers were ran down on purpose by a vehicle.33 New York Police Officers were injured during riots.

6 Athens, GA Police Officers were seriously injured during a protest.

2 Capitol Police Officers were injured during a riot in Harrisburg, PA.

12 Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Officers were injured during riots.

21 Minneapolis law enforcement officers suffered various injuries in riots. Some were hospitalized.

1 Federal Protective Services Officer was shot and killed!

Just in case your local news outlets neglect to keep you updated on what law enforcement officers are experiencing these past few days.

I would sadly venture to say that this list is not by any means complete.

No, it was not right for George Floyd to die the way he did. But I no longer grieve for Mr. George Floyd. I grieve for AMERICA.

And, right now, ANTIFA Domestic Terrorists have their knee on the throats of all AMERICANS and WE THE PEOPLE can't breathe.

Still, some Mayors and Governors are reluctant to restore law and order to their cities and states. Some police officers are afraid to act because they are constantly being filmed and watched closely by those who hate the police. Their job just became 10 times harder and I feel for those who do their job properly every single day. Because of the actions of a handful of bad cops, we cannot assume all cops are bad. But that is what ANTIFA Domestic Terrorists are all about. They delight in opposing all authority and inciting riots. Unless we get control of this situation we are headed for anarchy and we are very nearly there already.

And isn't it strange how the Coronavirus has suddenly become second fiddle to
George Floyd!


How much longer are WE Law abiding Americans going to tolerate this lawlessness?
The REAL George Floyd. Who is he? br br br One... (show quote)



None of this will ever be reported. The sad truth is a free society does need a free press, but what we have now is, as far as the laughably called mainstream media is concerned is a propaganda machine that is less controlled by the Democrat/socialist Party, but is a partner that is complicit, and coordinates their attempt to overthrow our system of governance and institute the equivalent of what happened in Venezuela right here in America. We are indeed in dangerous times. The Democrat/socialist Party, while Obama was in office came very close to succeeding in their "fundamental transformation" of America into a socialist nightmare, and they have not stopped in their attempts to destroy this country, as EVERY country that has willingly, or unwillingly found out when the reality of failure and evil becomes apparent when socialism is accepted, or thrust upon a country.

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Jun 29, 2020 10:22:31   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Until videos started coming out, people did not believe what was really happening. Even with video there is rarely an indictment. Before video it was open season on minorities, that is why I say thousands. Bad cops learn from other bad cops. Chauvin kneeling on Floyd’s neck was also training the other cops. You see what they were learning.
I'm a cynic too, but I still don't believe thousands killed. Now I WOULD believe thousands mistreated (CI's, witnesses, people of interest, interrogation room mishaps, etc.) but that's not what you said. So here's a question at the heart of the matter. Why is it that when I see independent "person on the street" reports (NOT MSM!) most POC say that defunding the police is a foolish idea, because they know what would happen to their neighborhoods if the police presence was diminished in any way.

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