Navigator

Ask some cop you know; it happens hundreds of times a year. The fact that he was 6'6" 260# and high on meth would probably help. Check out the video of Brooks; a much smaller man than Floyd, Brooks had little problem tossing around two cops.

Wolfman888

Ok, so he deserved to die then ?

My cop friends talk of de-escalation;

guess Minneapolis police missed that training day.

Navigator

Talk about being stupid. You questioned how Floyd would gain an advantage by claiming he couldn't breathe if he could and I answered. I implied nothing about whether or not Floyd deserved to die; very few people actually deserve to die and I believe Floyd is in that category. The jury is still out however on whether or not his death was justifiable.

Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas

Demolitionist's have determined the Chicom Virus didn't create enough destruction
The DNC makes more money on the international stage promoting the BLM/new black panthers
and running the proceeds through the DNC's own 'act-blue' bank accounts

Wolfman888

He was 1. in handcuffs
2. flat on the ground
3. had 3 (count 'em) cops on top of him

So explain how it is justifiable.

Do you even know what that means.

Dictionaries are everywhere, maybe look it up.

Mikeyavelli

6 foot 6 250 pounds fueled by a drug cocktail.
Dangerous, even if white.

Wildlandfirefighter

Then you are fortunate, I know several that have gotten it, two that have been hospitalized, but thankfully none have died yet.

Wildlandfirefighter

We shall see my friend and I hope you are correct, but reality just does not seem to be following along. As far as Bix, she may very well be right in her Opinion, although its not supported by any facts or we would have seen a huge display of this during her press briefings - over and over and over again.

As far as Trump, great thing he did shutting down China travel, but it was too little, and since then he has been missing in action. I could provide so much to support this statement, hell there have already been books and thousands of articles written about it. We have 10 states hitting record case loads just today, but we have not seen a press briefing on Covid now in 51 days. Does that seem responsible to you?

I spent my life working in Emergency Management, and this pandemic effort has been putrid, and its not getting better any time soon. So I'll just ask you this one simple little question:

If Trump has done such a wonderful job on the pandemic, just why does the US have by FAR the worst statistics in any category that really counts (# infections, # deaths, #hospitalizations) than any other country on earth? Just how DO you justify those facts with your statements? How can a country with good leadership and 4.5% of the worlds population, which also happens to be about the wealthiest and most resource rich country on the planet, end up with nearly 27% of both the total number of cases in the world, and the total number of deaths.

I'm sorry, but the facts show the truth that the lack of leadership in this administration in dealing with the pandemic has made our situation much worse than it could and should be.

Yes I believe mortality rates may be much less than 3-5% as well, we know there are a lot of people that get it and never even know or never get tested, so they are never included in the stats.

But its really all relative because the same thing can be said for the common flu and any other viral disease as well. According to the CDC between 5 and 20% of America gets the flu each year. But within the numbers of confirmed cases there is about a 0.1% mortality. Millions of American's get the flu vaccine every year, and the virus has been around mutating yearly basically forever, so it is not new to us humans.

So how many people each year actually get the flu but never go to the doc's, never get tested, and thus are never counted in the statistics? I would say a hell of a lot more than not. I have had the flu I am sure dozens of times in my life, as have my wife and children. Not a one of us has ever gone to the docs to be tested for flue, until my 19 year old daughter was this year when we feared she had Covid.

The actual mortality rate of the flu is likely much much less than 0.1%. Perhaps more like 0.01% or even a lot less. And still at that mortality rate the flu has killed between 12,000 and 61,000 annually since 2010.

Covid is new. I have seen scientific papers that say it is likely that between 70 and 80% of the country will get the virus unless a vaccine is developed sooner rather than later (it apparently takes between 70 and 80% of a population to get the virus, survive and be immune to create "herd immunity"). So the flu kills between 12 and 61,000 per year, we have 120,000 dead in four months with covid.

We never shut down during flu season, never wear masks, never social distance, and all that stuff. We have a vaccine for the flu. The flu is not nearly as contagious as Covid. And yet the CDC says the mortality rate is 0.1%. And we already have 120,000 deaths from Covid in the last four months!

So if Bix is absolutely correct and the true mortality rate is 0.2%, and 70% of the country get it, here is what the math looks like:

0.002 x 330,000,000 x 0.7 = 462,000 deaths from Covid

If Bix is wrong and its 0.5% mortality, then the math looks like this: .005 x 330000000 x .7 = 1,155,000 dead

And that's looking on the bright side because if the mortality rate is 3%, then the math looks like this: .03 x 330,000,000 x 0.7 = 6,930,000 dead

Anyway, I hope that science can come up with effective treatments, a vaccine or a cure ASAP. I'm not enjoying all this craziness any more than any of you.

If we had widespread easily accessible and accurate testing, we could perhaps determine who has had the virus, has antibodies, and can return to work and normal social activity immediately. That would sure be a way to get the economy open safely in short order.

Mikeyavelli

Yawn.
We have testing. And I don't think I will waste my time being tested for The Pelosi Virus.
The test is my patience with this crap.
The left has gone too far unopposed by most in Washington DC. Time the Republicans took a stand to end all this crap. Pelosi Virus and Black Lives Matter, all political weapons to topple America.
And no one but Trump is fighting it.

Navigator

How about you stop being such an arrogant a..wipe? I can't explain how it is justifiable since I don't know if it was; all the facts have not come out.

Wolfman888

So you can't find a dictionary ?

Navigator

I fail to see your point as anyone with a fifth grade education knows the definition of justifiable, although the legal definition in some instances may be somewhat more involved. My point being there is no way to tell if what the officer did was justified by the facts unless we know all the facts surrounding this incident and, at this point, we are not aware of all those facts. Just b/c the video evidence is damning, the PD has fired and the DA has charged this cop, in the US we are innocent until proven guilty. Eventually, a jury will be presented with the facts and will make a decision.

Wolfman888

So your president would not know what justifiable means then ?

Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State

If I was vegetative, I would be a braindead Libtard like you.

Navigator

What???? Look up the phrase "off on a tangent" and when you can stop being that I might have a clue what the heck you are getting at.