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Jun 16, 2020 22:18:01   #
Wolfman888
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Innocent, original autopsy did not list the cause of death as asphyxiation. Sumbish had more drugs in him than a CVS.
Chauvin will be acquitted, and then we'll have more affirmative shopping and black real estate culling.
Real classy.


Right Mikey; the drugs made him say I can't breathe and call for his mama.

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Jun 16, 2020 22:27:48   #
Navigator
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
How do you live with yourself and your stupidity? I mean really? You think its over? That is just the stupidest thing I have heard said on this forum. You get the booby prize!

TX, FL and AZ have all seen the highest daily numbers of new cases over the past week. Not just once, but over and over and over again. Those states are going to have fun in the coming weeks. Some areas and some states are moving back toward greater isolation requirements instead of moving forward with reopening due to the increases.

And I don't do hysteria, only deal with facts. This thing is just getting started regardless of how much you want it to be different. Have you seen a lowering of the curve in the US? NOPE!

However, we can make a difference if we all do take it a little more seriously. But somehow I think you people will continue your ignorance until the truth hits you in the face (or actually in the lungs in this case).
How do you live with yourself and your stupidity? ... (show quote)


Of course you deal with hysteria and panic and fear. Covid-19 is not the bubonic plague with a 50% fatality rate and, in case you've also got Alzheimer's, the economy was not shut down to reduce infections or deaths due to Covid-19; we were sold and accepted this bill of goods with the explanation a shutdown was required to slow down the infection rate so that hospitals would not be overwhelmed with a large number of cases in a very short time. At the time, it was explained repeatedly that this would not change the number of people who eventually became infected or died, but now the blue states insist we must stay home until the risk of infection and death become unrealistically low. The curve was flattened six weeks ago and there is not a health care system in the country that is even close to maximum capacity to treat Covid-19. The scientific facts now known are that this virus is not nearly as contagious as originally thought (transmissibility of about 2.5 rather than the 4.1 originally thought) nor as fatal as originally thought (overall fatality rate initially feared between 3% and 5% now estimated to be about 0.2% overall). So yes, your braying hysterical warnings that "spikes" in very low numbers are valid reasons to remain closed (blue states) or to re-shut down (red states) when the health care systems in this country have way more capability to deal with Covid-19 than can be realistically anticipated IS merchandising in hysteria, fear and terror and is dangerous to the future of the US.

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Jun 16, 2020 22:36:31   #
Navigator
 
Wolfman888 wrote:
Right Mikey; the drugs made him say I can't breathe and call for his mama.


No he says he can't breath so you will lighten up your grip on him and he can gain an advantage.

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Jun 16, 2020 22:37:27   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Wolfman888 wrote:
Right Mikey; the drugs made him say I can't breathe and call for his mama.


The call for mama is what tears you up.
The guy was a 6 time felon known to the officers who was 6 foot 6 250 pounds high on drugs and resisting arrest. The weighted knee of Officer Chauvin was on the ground, not on St Floyd’s neck.
Chauvin will be acquitted. Then you klowns will burn and loot more of your decrepit cities.
Real smart. Nowhere to get your free government groceries. You will cry about that too.

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Jun 16, 2020 22:43:02   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
Kevyn wrote:
Crackpot nonsense


Commie speak for TRUTH~~

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Jun 16, 2020 22:46:01   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
I find it ironic, and odd, that there are so many conspiracy theorists that spend much of their lives on this forum.

I find it ironic that many here in the US don't have a clue just how much worse this pandemic can and likely will get.

I find it ironic that many still think the pandemic is a hoax (hows that going right now Texas, Florida and Arizona).

I find it ironic that nearly everything you said about the Floyd murder justifies the BLM cause and that includes the actions of the cops and EMS that came to take the body away.

I find it ironic that if Floyd knew it was a fake $20 that he would have stuck around so nonchalantly.

I find it ironic that I could tear apart your entire opening argument here if I wanted, but I just don't feel its worth the time.
I find it ironic, and odd, that there are so many ... (show quote)


LOL. Fact is that TUBERCULOSUS has killed more people than covid 19. As far as BLM? They are racists, and deserve to be spit on.

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Jun 16, 2020 22:46:58   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
The Obama org tweet is fake news buddy. Its already been debunked many days ago but still people like you are spreading this lie. Please educate yourself and stop spreading fake crap that only serves to further confuse and divide this country.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-obama-foundation/fact-check-the-obama-foundation-did-not-tweet-a-photo-of-george-floyd-before-he-died-idUSKBN23I19Z

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-foundation-floyd-death/

https://abc7chicago.com/antifa-protest-black-lives-matter-lincoln-memorial/6246465/
The Obama org tweet is fake news buddy. Its alrea... (show quote)


Snopes is a lying rag.

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Jun 16, 2020 22:48:41   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
Auntie Dee wrote:
Quite right! Not sure I believe in coincidences either, guess we'll know for sure when the NEXT ONE happens...then it will become more obvious to everyone...won't be long!!


Nah. The Libtards here cant and wont learn.

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Jun 16, 2020 22:48:51   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Nuclearian wrote:
LOL. Fact is that TUBERCULOSUS has killed more people than covid 19. As far as BLM? They are racists, and deserve to be spit on.


Wouldn't waste good spit on a black lives matter kommie. Piss either. Mace is good enough for them though.

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Jun 16, 2020 22:51:02   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
Wolfman888 wrote:
Right Mikey; the drugs made him say I can't breathe and call for his mama.


Nah. The criminal in him made him say it.

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Jun 16, 2020 23:08:36   #
teabag09
 
Navigator wrote:
Of course you deal with hysteria and panic and fear. Covid-19 is not the bubonic plague with a 50% fatality rate and, in case you've also got Alzheimer's, the economy was not shut down to reduce infections or deaths due to Covid-19; we were sold and accepted this bill of goods with the explanation a shutdown was required to slow down the infection rate so that hospitals would not be overwhelmed with a large number of cases in a very short time. At the time, it was explained repeatedly that this would not change the number of people who eventually became infected or died, but now the blue states insist we must stay home until the risk of infection and death become unrealistically low. The curve was flattened six weeks ago and there is not a health care system in the country that is even close to maximum capacity to treat Covid-19. The scientific facts now known are that this virus is not nearly as contagious as originally thought (transmissibility of about 2.5 rather than the 4.1 originally thought) nor as fatal as originally thought (overall fatality rate initially feared between 3% and 5% now estimated to be about 0.2% overall). So yes, your braying hysterical warnings that "spikes" in very low numbers are valid reasons to remain closed (blue states) or to re-shut down (red states) when the health care systems in this country have way more capability to deal with Covid-19 than can be realistically anticipated IS merchandising in hysteria, fear and terror and is dangerous to the future of the US.
Of course you deal with hysteria and panic and fea... (show quote)


What is fatal is putting people on ventilators as opposed to just increasing oxygen. Doctors do learn some things that are static but a lot of their practice is guessing and hoping they are right. Being a doctor or a police officer are two professions I wouldn't want anything to do with. Mike

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Jun 16, 2020 23:26:34   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
Nuclearian wrote:
Snopes is a lying rag.

I believe you were the one who honestly described the hegelian-dialectic a few years ago saying,
create the lie, turn it into the narrative, then turn the narrative into a huge problem, Than create a
solution to fit the narrative..."problem, reaction, solution"

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Jun 16, 2020 23:34:09   #
teabag09
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
You really need to understand that there are a lot of people in the country that are seriously threatened by Covid-19. Some of us are old and have nasty diseases or breathed in way too much smoke over the years serving our country. Some of us have done all the research possible and have about as good an understanding of this pandemic that one could have without being an ER doc on the front lines. Some of us realize that if we were to get Covid we would have an 80% or higher chance of death. So when some of you treat this like it is nothing, some of us think you are idiots. If you don't have these worries then good for you.

For me I'll keep doing my own thing, straying away from others as almost nobody here in Idaho is wearing masks or worried about social distancing so nobody is showing that they care about those of us that are at the extreme level of risk............yet.

My immune system has been developing for 70 years, I really doubt sheltering for a few months away from other people is going to make any difference at all.

Nobody is saying masks do nothing, more and more the medical experts are trying to get us all to wear them. The ONLY reason they didn't say this at first was because there were insufficient masks for our medical folks and they need them more than we do, so catch the hell up Rob!

Distancing helps stop or slow transmission, its not rocket science


Washing hands too much? Dry skin? Oh my, yes that is a horrible thing. Give me a freaking break, ever hear of hand lotion. Its a lot easier to regrow skin cells than lung cells.

I was not around back in 1918 for the Spanish flu, but isolation sure worked then. Perhaps you should try to educate yourself as your entire post is just ridiculously ignorant.
You really need to understand that there are a lot... (show quote)


HEY GUY, I don't consider myself old at 70 though I may drop dead tomorrow, who the heck knows. If I'm around other people I put a mask on to protect them, not me, because the masks are a joke. Half of the people aren't even wearing them correctly!

This whole thing is probably real but it isn't deadly enough to shut down the economy of the Greatest Nation on Earth or for that fact, all the Nations except China??? Be sure to donate to the Demoncrates!!! Mike

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Jun 16, 2020 23:43:01   #
teabag09
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Wouldn't waste good spit on a black lives matter kommie. Piss either. Mace is good enough for them though.


I'm sorry, a.223 or a 5.56 is the answer. They've pushed this stuff too far in my opinion. Come around my abode with this BS and you will end up horizontal. Mike

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Jun 17, 2020 02:12:40   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Navigator wrote:
Of course you deal with hysteria and panic and fear. Covid-19 is not the bubonic plague with a 50% fatality rate and, in case you've also got Alzheimer's, the economy was not shut down to reduce infections or deaths due to Covid-19; we were sold and accepted this bill of goods with the explanation a shutdown was required to slow down the infection rate so that hospitals would not be overwhelmed with a large number of cases in a very short time. At the time, it was explained repeatedly that this would not change the number of people who eventually became infected or died, but now the blue states insist we must stay home until the risk of infection and death become unrealistically low. The curve was flattened six weeks ago and there is not a health care system in the country that is even close to maximum capacity to treat Covid-19. The scientific facts now known are that this virus is not nearly as contagious as originally thought (transmissibility of about 2.5 rather than the 4.1 originally thought) nor as fatal as originally thought (overall fatality rate initially feared between 3% and 5% now estimated to be about 0.2% overall). So yes, your braying hysterical warnings that "spikes" in very low numbers are valid reasons to remain closed (blue states) or to re-shut down (red states) when the health care systems in this country have way more capability to deal with Covid-19 than can be realistically anticipated IS merchandising in hysteria, fear and terror and is dangerous to the future of the US.
Of course you deal with hysteria and panic and fea... (show quote)


Well you do know that there are treatments now for the Bubonic Plague. And actually untreated the mortality rate of Bubonic is more in the 75 to 80%, but that drops to 10-15 with treatments available today. I have seen a lot of estimates in the 3-5% for covid, have not seen any as low as 0.2% so I call BS on that.

I never even mentioned anything about the shutdown. The shutdown was partly for what you said, allow production of PPE to catch up to needs, sae with other medical supplies, ventilators, get the medical community prepared and stop the medical facilities from being overwhelmed.

But the other part of that was for policy to be put in place to try to rein things in. Policies like social distancing, having people wear masks when needed, hand sanitizing, and get testing and tracing ramped up. Unfortunately the medical community has largely done their part, but the country is still not prepared on the some of the critical others.

Trumpy wasted two months before he even recognized there was a true problem, and since that time he has basically stuck his head in the sand. So the first wave is still continuing, just in parts of the country that were not close to the coasts so were spared from the initial pandemic push. Now its spread internally but people are acting like its all over. Lets see how that works in the coming weeks. Not even close, maybe you should watch the national news once in awhile.

As far as your other points, I'll supply some educational information for you should you choose to read it.

Its been 50 days since we have seen a press conference on Covid-19. 50 days!

At least this has somewhat limited the fake information that the administration has been able to put out in further attempts to dupe people like you.

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