EmilyD

I have to laugh every time someone shouts that Trump has been impeached. Like it's a big important word that means something huge. All it means is that he was charged with a crime. That's all. Nothing more. He was acquitted of those charges, which means he was found NOT GUILTY of the charges. It does not matter that he was charged, he wad acquitted...exonerated...absolved...completely of those charges. So to shout out to everyone "Trump was charged with a crime", since he's been acquitted of those charges, is just plain silly.

If he was "convicted" of those crimes, that would have been another matter. But he wasn't. You can't shout that Trump was convicted, so all you can say is he was charged. And that is stupid.

proud patriot

no serving in the military is not necessary, but Trump is a draft dodger...because of bone spurs. He worked hard not to serve his country. Like now he is working hard to ruin the country.

American Vet

Of course they are, says you. (Educational session to follow)

proud patriot

No he was not acquitted and no he wasn't charged with a crime. You show your ignorance of the american political system.
He was impeached by the house, and the senate voted against removing him. that's different that acquittal.

jwrevagent

Doesn't matter how you spin it. Trump, Clinton, and Andrew Johnson, were all impeached, and all not removed, mostly because of partisanship in all three cases. Trump should never have been impeached, since the House really had no evidence of crime committed to indict him, which is as close as we can come to what impeachment actually is, Johnson, while he may have been incompetent, and was serving only because Lincoln was dead, was probably also justly not removed, though I do not know as much about it as I probably should-and Clinton, well, he did lie under oath, but partisanship again dictated that it did not rise to the level of High Crimes and misdemeanors demanded as the standard. I suspect impeachment should be used less as a threat now, since history shows it is difficult if not impossible to garner enough backing in the entire Congress to actually remove one from office. Besides, the country is so hopelessly divided, Congress cannot agree on the most basic things-like whether votes by proxy are proper-or possibly if the sun is shining outside or not. Now we have three precedents, not just one....not even sure that Dems will be anxious to go that route again, unless they have an iron clad case, not the inuendo, and lack of evidence presented in Trump's case. As to Pelosi's statement that Trump is impeached and will be forever impeached, that is nonsense, and could be used as evidence of a decline in her mental health. If Trump is forever impeached, so is Clinton-but she would not ever say that.

proud patriot

The deficit has climbed 74% since he took office and what do we have to show for it? What????? Tell me?

jwrevagent

I do not know if you are referring to the deficit, or to the National Debt, but Congress has no interest in balancing either, and if you recall, all money bills originate in the House of Representatives. I have no idea what we have to show for it, if anything, just as I had no idea how inflation got to the point of being ridiculous in the Carter administration, or the doubling or tripling of our national debt under Obama-I suspect that much of what we get from all these things cannot be counted in $$ and much-more than necessary, for sure, is wasted. But recall please, that Mr. Trump has been in office less than 4 years, so I guess my question to you is, what did you want him to do and what did he have to work with? This is not snide, this is really a question. I have no answers for you, since I have no access to the actual numbers and accounts-remember that figures don't lie, but liars figure. I trust almost no information coming out of the DC swamp, especially in an election year. Been through this too many times to believe it.

Navigator

In that case you should precede comments like the President always lies with IMHO.

GoCubs Loc: Earth

Except it is not an opinion but rather a fact.

Navigator

So there you go, we do not have differing opinions; you state lies as facts.

EmilyD

Then you need to call CNN and tell them they are wrong:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/05/politics/senate-impeachment-trial-vote-acquittal/index.html

From CNN's article:

"(CNN)The Senate voted to acquit President Donald Trump on two articles of impeachment.....The third Senate impeachment trial of a sitting president in US history concluded Wednesday (Feb. 5) afternoon with votes finding the President not guilty of abuse of power and obstruction of Congress, the impeachment articles the House charged Trump with in December."

All "impeach" means, proud patriot, is to be charged with a crime. Accused of a crime. Trump was charged with two crimes. He was found not guilty of both charges. That means he was acquitted. Don't take my word for it - it would be best if you could look up the words "impeachment" and "acquittal" so you know for yourself what they mean before you use them erroneously again.

GoCubs Loc: Earth

You know better, Navigator.

Navigator

I would hope you do but I guess you don't. Try this: go to one of those lying Trump sites and substitute for Trump someone you know and respect for each of these instances off rounding off, exaggeration, prediction or intention that was not realized, etc. etc. that is classified as a lie and see how you would analyze the reasoning if it were this person you trust. I think you will find than most of these instances, even those that are actually reported accurately, are not lies.

GoCubs Loc: Earth

After reading your reply twice, I think I may know what you mean. Will try it tomorrow as I have better things to do now. You are one of the precious few that I respect on OPP due to always being rational. I appreciate that and hope it perseveres.

Navigator

Hard to tell as the aging brain gets a little weaker each day.