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Jun 15, 2020 22:38:04   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
By the way, Antifa would never use Nazi symbols, it is totally what they are against. The only groups that use that are the same ones that also use the Confederate flag, and they are all far-right wing organizations and far from the far left group that is Antifa. So if you have been seeing those symbols in every town around you, you must live in the middle of a white nationalist hot zone. In that case yes your elders on your reservation should be very concerned. And if you indeed "emptied the cell all by yourself", you did the country a big favor getting rid of those white supremacists and the country should thank you for it.
By the way, Antifa would never use Nazi symbols, i... (show quote)


Better if we got rid of the BLACK supremicists. There are more of them than white supremicists.

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Jun 15, 2020 22:43:09   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
I really don't care if individuals want to fly the confederate flag on their private property as that is their right. Its a bit different in the public specter though.


Private property and all private businesses. The only flag that should be flown in capitols or federal property should be the Red, White, and Blue.

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Jun 15, 2020 22:55:28   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Simple Sam wrote:
Not so fast! According to the Hate Map, there are currently 917 hate groups in operation in the U.S. Leading the pack is The Nation of Islam. By far the largest group of haters and ANTIFA is part of that group.

If you ask me, all of them are idiots hell bent on ruining the USA.


How in the world do you come up with the conclusion that Antifa is a part of the Nation of Islam. That is pure fake news at its best right there. They are absolutely NOT a part of the Nation of Islam, nor are they associated with them. I would also tell you that of all those groups, the ones that cause the vast majority of deaths and domestic terrorist attacks are coming from those on the far right that are white nationalist or supremacists groups. But I agree with you that all of these hate groups, regardless if on the right or left, are "idiots hell bent on ruining the USA"!

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Jun 15, 2020 23:27:47   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Nuclearian wrote:
They may not use Nazi symbols, but they ARE Nazis


You show your EXTREME ignorance. I don't think you have any understanding of what Antifa is all about nor what fascism is. Antifa is against fascism in all respects. Antifa MEANS anti-fascism! They want basically the exact opposite of fascism. Perhaps you do not understand that what the Nazi's did, or Nazism, along with what was happening in Italy with Mussolini during the same period prior to and during WWII, was pure fascism. Mussolini actually started the fascist movement in Europe and Hitler and his Nazi group basically adopted the Italian model on his way to power. So Antifa actually believe the exact opposite of facsism and antifa touts itself as anti-fascist.

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Jun 15, 2020 23:28:39   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Nuclearian wrote:
Better if we got rid of the BLACK supremicists. There are more of them than white supremicists.


Well now that is just total BS, I would love to see your proof of this statement.

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Jun 15, 2020 23:32:07   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Simple Sam wrote:
Private property and all private businesses. The only flag that should be flown in capitols or federal property should be the Red, White, and Blue.


Agree with most of that but I would expand your list to any property owned by the government whether it be state or federal, since in reality all of that property is owned by the citizens of the state and country. And I have been a big fan of Lynard Skynard for about 50 years now LOL.

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Jun 15, 2020 23:39:54   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
How in the world do you come up with the conclusion that Antifa is a part of the Nation of Islam. That is pure fake news at its best right there. They are absolutely NOT a part of the Nation of Islam, nor are they associated with them. I would also tell you that of all those groups, the ones that cause the vast majority of deaths and domestic terrorist attacks are coming from those on the far right that are white nationalist or supremacists groups. But I agree with you that all of these hate groups, regardless if on the right or left, are "idiots hell bent on ruining the USA"!
How in the world do you come up with the conclusio... (show quote)


We are at war, make no mistake and ANTIFA is muslin brotherhood rebranded. When we think of war, many of us think of late modern warfare, like in World War II or Vietnam but post-modern hybrid warfare is very different and the better we understand it, the better prepared we are to cope.

I’ve called the rolling coup against Trump a “psychological civil war” and “asymmetrical warfare” but a more formal term for what’s been going on is Fourth-Generation Warfare (4GW), which involves a blurring of the lines between war and politics, combatants and civilians. It uses propaganda and information warfare to accomplish strategic, operational, and tactical objectives, without measurable damage that the target can identify. In some cases, the target may not even know it has been attacked, thus already losing that battle.

Fourth-Generation Warfare involves the following elements:

-Decentralized, lack of hierarchy, with a non-national or transnational base
-A direct attack on the enemy’s culture, including genocidal acts against civilians
-Highly sophisticated psychological warfare and propaganda, especially through media manipulation, internet trolls, bots and lawfare
-All available pressures are used – political, economic, social and military
-Occurs in low-intensity conflict over a long term, involving actors from all networks
-Use of insurgency tactics, such as subversion, terrorism and guerrilla tactics

Now, take a close look at what is happening, notice anything?

While you focus on tearing down monuments or destroying flags, our nation is being completely destroyed! Antifa and their supporters in the DNC, in Hollywood and in the Mainstream Media embody the Post-Modern warfare that’s been developing in recent decades via al-Qaeda and ISIS.

It is transnational, it attacks the culture, it features psychological warfare, propaganda, lawfare, etc., etc. And that yes, these riots are the latest iteration of the rolling coup.

ANTIFA IS THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD NETWORK, REBRANDED

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Jun 16, 2020 00:21:59   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Simple Sam wrote:
We are at war, make no mistake and ANTIFA is muslin brotherhood rebranded. When we think of war, many of us think of late modern warfare, like in World War II or Vietnam but post-modern hybrid warfare is very different and the better we understand it, the better prepared we are to cope.

I’ve called the rolling coup against Trump a “psychological civil war” and “asymmetrical warfare” but a more formal term for what’s been going on is Fourth-Generation Warfare (4GW), which involves a blurring of the lines between war and politics, combatants and civilians. It uses propaganda and information warfare to accomplish strategic, operational, and tactical objectives, without measurable damage that the target can identify. In some cases, the target may not even know it has been attacked, thus already losing that battle.

Fourth-Generation Warfare involves the following elements:

-Decentralized, lack of hierarchy, with a non-national or transnational base
-A direct attack on the enemy’s culture, including genocidal acts against civilians
-Highly sophisticated psychological warfare and propaganda, especially through media manipulation, internet trolls, bots and lawfare
-All available pressures are used – political, economic, social and military
-Occurs in low-intensity conflict over a long term, involving actors from all networks
-Use of insurgency tactics, such as subversion, terrorism and guerrilla tactics

Now, take a close look at what is happening, notice anything?

While you focus on tearing down monuments or destroying flags, our nation is being completely destroyed! Antifa and their supporters in the DNC, in Hollywood and in the Mainstream Media embody the Post-Modern warfare that’s been developing in recent decades via al-Qaeda and ISIS.

It is transnational, it attacks the culture, it features psychological warfare, propaganda, lawfare, etc., etc. And that yes, these riots are the latest iteration of the rolling coup.

ANTIFA IS THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD NETWORK, REBRANDED
We are at war, make no mistake and ANTIFA is musli... (show quote)


Sam, Antifa has nothing to do with the Muslim Brotherhood either. Do you even know what a coup is? Nearly every coup that has happened in the last 100 years has been a fight for liberty over authoritarian governments, I am not aware of any coup occurring in a democracy. In fact in most of the coups that have occurred, the government that was implemented after the coup was a democratic government. If a coup were ever to happen in this country in this timeperiod, it would have to be a military coup. So are you worried about the military taking over the government?

When Trumpy gets his a$$ handed to him in November, when the election results in a landslide of voters rejecting the Trumpster that removes his sorry a$$ from office once and for all, that will not be a coup. No, that will be the vast majority of the citizens of this country having sufficient intelligence to understand what a wreck this administration has been and telling us that Trump needs to go. It will be the exact definition of democracy and have nothing at all in common with a coup.

Although I would also offer up this wonderful little tidbit that comes from the Declaration of Independence as food for thought: The U.S. Declaration of Independence states that "when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government".

As far as your asymmetrical warfare goes, I believe the majority of people in this country understand today that this is exactly with Trump and his supporters have been trying to do for years now. Cause chaos, lie, cheat, divide the country, and do anything you can to remain in power. Do you believe Trump ever thinks about doing what is right for the country instead of what might be most beneficial to himself personally. Yeah if you believe that I have some top quality swampland in Florida you might be interested in purchasing.

I think the real issue here is that the world is changing, the country is changing, the majority of the citizens in this country just no longer support Trump. We have figured out what a morale piece of crap he is and we see how divisive his presidency has been, and we reject him. So there are still around 40% of the country that are either too ignorant or stubborn to see what is happening, or they are just racists weather they know it or not.

Either way you folks who still support our imbecilic president are getting left behind. You are in the minority and that minority is shrinking. Trump said "what have you got to lose" by voting for me. Fortunately we have all now been able to see what we have to lose. Many will not be fooled again. I wish you would join our ever expanding group and get yourself on the right side of history. You will feel better about yourself in the future if you do, I promise.

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Jun 16, 2020 00:48:02   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Sam, Antifa has nothing to do with the Muslim Brotherhood either. Do you even know what a coup is? Nearly every coup that has happened in the last 100 years has been a fight for liberty over authoritarian governments, I am not aware of any coup occurring in a democracy. In fact in most of the coups that have occurred, the government that was implemented after the coup was a democratic government. If a coup were ever to happen in this country in this timeperiod, it would have to be a military coup. So are you worried about the military taking over the government?

When Trumpy gets his a$$ handed to him in November, when the election results in a landslide of voters rejecting the Trumpster that removes his sorry a$$ from office once and for all, that will not be a coup. No, that will be the vast majority of the citizens of this country having sufficient intelligence to understand what a wreck this administration has been and telling us that Trump needs to go. It will be the exact definition of democracy and have nothing at all in common with a coup.

Although I would also offer up this wonderful little tidbit that comes from the Declaration of Independence as food for thought: The U.S. Declaration of Independence states that "when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government".

As far as your asymmetrical warfare goes, I believe the majority of people in this country understand today that this is exactly with Trump and his supporters have been trying to do for years now. Cause chaos, lie, cheat, divide the country, and do anything you can to remain in power. Do you believe Trump ever thinks about doing what is right for the country instead of what might be most beneficial to himself personally. Yeah if you believe that I have some top quality swampland in Florida you might be interested in purchasing.

I think the real issue here is that the world is changing, the country is changing, the majority of the citizens in this country just no longer support Trump. We have figured out what a morale piece of crap he is and we see how divisive his presidency has been, and we reject him. So there are still around 40% of the country that are either too ignorant or stubborn to see what is happening, or they are just racists weather they know it or not.

Either way you folks who still support our imbecilic president are getting left behind. You are in the minority and that minority is shrinking. Trump said "what have you got to lose" by voting for me. Fortunately we have all now been able to see what we have to lose. Many will not be fooled again. I wish you would join our ever expanding group and get yourself on the right side of history. You will feel better about yourself in the future if you do, I promise.
Sam, Antifa has nothing to do with the Muslim Brot... (show quote)


Sadly, you are wrong and apparently can not see how you are being manipulated. Perhaps one day you will awaken.

Good night.

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Jun 16, 2020 01:01:35   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Simple Sam wrote:
Sadly, you are wrong and apparently can not see how you are being manipulated. Perhaps one day you will awaken.

Good night.


Prove it Sam, and sleep well. You seem like a good person that has been hoodwinked by the great deceiver that is Trump. He really doesn't care about you, he only cares about himself and lies like hell to keep folks like you under his banner. And I share your thought that perhaps one day you will awaken.

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Jun 16, 2020 01:12:03   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Simple Sam wrote:
Color did not matter, a strong back was a strong back. And women with wide hips to become "breeders."


I'm sure you are correct

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Jun 16, 2020 04:52:33   #
Tug484
 
rumitoid wrote:
And the intention was traitorous no matter what the private meaning. It acted against the meaning of all the colors to betray their fellow man. It is positively shameless to describe the battle flag that way.


It isn't shameless.
That's what the things on it stand for, yet you still vote for the Dems that wanted to keep slaves.
You and your kind are a major part of the problem blacks have.

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Jun 16, 2020 07:45:46   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
As far as flags go, the Confederate battle flag, the stars and bars, is a very good looking flags. I am not going to argue whether it means something good or something evil. We could argue that about all the flags at the UN.

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Jun 16, 2020 07:49:11   #
JIM BETHEA
 
son of witless wrote:
Have you ever bothered to read original material on the Civil War ? Not the regurgitated stuff.



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Jun 16, 2020 07:55:31   #
JIM BETHEA
 
Speaking of the UN ~~ This is plan of the owners of this country [not the puppets dancing & burning] to eliminate the police by bringing in UN forces to replace our native officers who have NO Allegiance to our country ....

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