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Jun 10, 2020 22:38:24   #
zombinis3 Loc: Southwest
 
Seth wrote:
Not that you'd acknowledge even if you noticed, but since Trump became our president, he has worked hard for and made great strides into prison reform, he has begun programs to bring more businesses and jobs to poor black communities and allocated more federal subsidies to black universities. This is all stuff Obama never cared about - for him it was just lip service based on race politics intended to keep the black vote while getting it on the cheap.

That said, personal choices count no matter what color you are or what economic background you come from. I know plenty of blacks who grew up in "disadvantaged" circumstances and, rather than waste their lives doing drugs or taking the criminal route to obtain money, took responsibility for themselves, studied, worked hard and to this day live normally and independently of taxpayer largesse.

Unfortunately, too many young blacks drink the Democrat Kool-Aid® and end up permanent wards of the government, alternating between the public dole and prison unless they're killed early by street violence or drugs.

I see it all the time when I go into Santa Monica or downtown L.A., scores of young black men sitting around during prime daytime hours smoking dope and blasting rap music instead of being out looking for work. I'd be willing to bet that 9 in 10 of them collects some form of relief and probably food stamps as well.

The tired story that because most of them probably have criminal records and therefore can't get work is B.S.; I have chatted with homeless men in the L.A. area who manage to find labor jobs every day, some paying well above the minimum wage, and none of these casual labor jobs comes with the hiree's background as an issue. Two such homeless men were black.

The problem is that the Democrats, needing the black vote, believe that the best way to retain it is to throw as many obstacles to independence and success in front of the blacks as they can, then blame "racism" and "white privilege" while lyingly assuring them that "we're the only ones who empathize with you and the only ones who have your back."

It's utterly despicable that a political party is so bloodless and soulless that it can knowingly keep nearly an entire race living in tragic circumstances by lying to them purely to achieve political power.
Not that you'd acknowledge even if you noticed, bu... (show quote)


Because I don't keep singing his praises you think I 'm a democrate ? Talk about judging a book by his cover. That is exactly what my statement was about people have a tendency to say that when they see a mexican his lazy, or when they see a black man walking down the sidewalk they will expect the worst. The judgement is made because of his skin color . Yes I too have experiences of people who have overcome the hardships and screwed up life situations and what they did with their lives. I always believed you work hard you get what you deserve. As for praises in my experience the more you have to bring the good things someone does you could be trying convince yourself, good things last the test of time. Not days or months and they also benefit everyone not just a limited few.

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Jun 10, 2020 23:11:01   #
Seth
 
zombinis3 wrote:
Because I don't keep singing his praises you think I 'm a democrate ? Talk about judging a book by his cover. That is exactly what my statement was about people have a tendency to say that when they see a mexican his lazy, or when they see a black man walking down the sidewalk they will expect the worst. The judgement is made because of his skin color . Yes I too have experiences of people who have overcome the hardships and screwed up life situations and what they did with their lives. I always believed you work hard you get what you deserve. As for praises in my experience the more you have to bring the good things someone does you could be trying convince yourself, good things last the test of time. Not days or months and they also benefit everyone not just a limited few.
Because I don't keep singing his praises you think... (show quote)


Not at all -- most of us right thinkers only bring up President Trump's accomplishments because we are replying to liars who try to say he hasn't done anything positive in office.

The accomplishments in question have benefited millions of Americans of all races, not just a few people, so I'm not altogether sure where you're coming from in your above post.

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Jun 11, 2020 07:32:43   #
zombinis3 Loc: Southwest
 
Seth wrote:
Not at all -- most of us right thinkers only bring up President Trump's accomplishments because we are replying to liars who try to say he hasn't done anything positive in office.

The accomplishments in question have benefited millions of Americans of all races, not just a few people, so I'm not altogether sure where you're coming from in your above post.


Just putting my beliefs to the test. I do admit that his actions have created some good but as with other adminstration leaders all actions don't lead to the benefit of everyone.His style has gotten on the wtf side of some , with others the belief is that the leader is the mirror of the country, the same brush problem. Then there are those who like him for what he is.
I can't commit on things that haven't effected me, for me not much has changed. I usually roll with the punches anyway and continue on.

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Jun 11, 2020 07:41:54   #
American Vet
 
zombinis3 wrote:
when they see a black man walking down the sidewalk they will expect the worst. The judgement is made because of his skin color .


Maybe it doesn't have to do with skin color........





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Jun 11, 2020 09:25:49   #
Seth
 
zombinis3 wrote:
Just putting my beliefs to the test. I do admit that his actions have created some good but as with other adminstration leaders all actions don't lead to the benefit of everyone.His style has gotten on the wtf side of some , with others the belief is that the leader is the mirror of the country, the same brush problem. Then there are those who like him for what he is.
I can't commit on things that haven't effected me, for me not much has changed. I usually roll with the punches anyway and continue on.
Just putting my beliefs to the test. I do admit th... (show quote)


Unlike many, I have no qualms with his "bedside manner," because I grew up in Queens myself and that's just the way most people there talked -- insults were a hobby, including among friends -- you left yourself open, in came a zinger. Kept us on our toes.

I do look at ballpark economic figures, at how he wheels and deals with other leaders on our behalf, how he reacts to military and homeland security situations and constitutional issues.

I see a POTUS who has put an idyll lifestyle on hold for selfless patriotic reasons, losing money in the process, to follow the courage of his convictions on behalf of his country -- putting up with more abuse, more slander of himself and his family, more bogus investigations and outright accusations and lies than any other president in the history of this country simply because he represents the American people, all the American people, rather than the entrenched parasites who comprise the political swamp or the globalists who are furious because his presidency has interrupted their "fundamental transformation" of America.

In the final analysis, I think most people in America tend to "roll with the punches," though I also believe that this time around, had Trump not won in 2016, those punches we would soon endure would be delivered to us with brass knuckles, and the rolling would be much harder to do.

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Jun 11, 2020 09:54:27   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Seth wrote:
How do you feel about "modifying" the voting laws so that any number of locals don't even have to show up to vote, and a single aparatchik can simply swing by and deliver scores or even hundreds of completed ballots, actual voters unseen?

How do you feel about a "no ID required" system that allows Pedro Ruiz to show up at the polls, say his name is Joe Shmoe and vote, while the real Mr. Shmoe's last breath had actually been gasped out 16 months previously while he was enjoying a steaming, delicious bowl of German lentil soup?

How do you feel about a popular candidate from one party being overwhelmingly defeated by the other party's candidate in a district where no one ever votes for the other party, but the people who process the poll results are state appointees who belong to that other party?
How do you feel about "modifying" the vo... (show quote)




What you are really asking is if i am in favor of vote by mail.. yes of course.. every state should and does at this point i think.. how that is conducted may need to be addressed.. a flat no will never the accepted.. the procedure should be uniform state to state also.. I voted by mail while in the Marines and untill now, the practice has been accepted and simple.

The updating of registration has never been maintained and while not a big problem, I would like to see that
updated..

We use ID to register and that is fine, to do so every time you visit the poll is a means to restrict voting rights. Depending on how the id laws are written.. as has been addressed several times on opp..

Your last example would create suspicion.. if i read it correctly..

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Jun 11, 2020 10:00:22   #
Seth
 
permafrost wrote:
What you are really asking is if i am in favor of vote by mail.. yes of course.. every state should and does at this point i think.. how that is conducted may need to be addressed.. a flat no will never the accepted.. the procedure should be uniform state to state also.. I voted by mail while in the Marines and untill now, the practice has been accepted and simple.

The updating of registration has never been maintained and while not a big problem, I would like to see that
updated..

We use ID to register and that is fine, to do so every time you visit the poll is a means to restrict voting rights. Depending on how the id laws are written.. as has been addressed several times on opp..

Your last example would create suspicion.. if i read it correctly..
What you are really asking is if i am in favor of ... (show quote)


It has generated suspicion, but in a state controlled by far left Democrats and the conscience level of same, it's been swept under a rug as in "nothing to see here" and the local portside powers-that-be will see to it that it stays that way.

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Jun 11, 2020 10:04:08   #
Seth
 
Seth wrote:
It has generated suspicion, but in a state controlled by far left Democrats and the conscience level of same, it's been swept under a rug as in "nothing to see here" and the local portside powers-that-be will see to it that it stays that way.


Absentee ballots come with out-of-state or out-of-country postmarks or other indicators, and would constitute a lot of trouble for a fraudulent voter to go through, unlike allowing mail-in ballots to be submitted locally.

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Jun 11, 2020 20:10:34   #
zombinis3 Loc: Southwest
 
American Vet wrote:
Maybe it doesn't have to do with skin color........


Good point but most of the best dressed usually don't hang in the neighborhood that have the worst problems.They were able to get out of the places ,but since most of the time the folks in the neighborhood don't have a good example of what a good adult is maybe a good suggestion could be a mentoring program. Which those who have tried have had some success with.

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