fullspinzoo

bahmer

Amen and Amen

Radiance3

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False narratives, and lies of the deceptive media. This is the highest political upheaval of the desperate communist democrats to taking over power. Destroying president Trump, who had nothing to do with the mayhem.

All the violent people joined, took advantage and participated in the killings and burning of the cities for a purpose of taking over power.

Several countries of the world now marching all over their streets hating the white folks in the US, and the innocent president Trump.
as they raised their placards to avenge the death of the drug addict George. Now, George became a hero, and the blacks demanding reparations.

During the 1600, US was under the British Empire. Slaves sold to the Western world were bought by the British. No one blamed them.

Perhaps slaves should not have been brought here if only they knew the tragic outcome.

DM

Radiance3: YOU GO! READ THE SAME THING...THE DEMS, THE MEDIA, THE LOUSY MEDIA THINK THIS IS
THEIR TIME. Showing exactly what they are and INTELLIGENT PEOPLE SEE THROUGH THE BIG WINDOW
OF THEIR STUPID OPPORTUNITY...BAIT AND SWITCH...YOU BETCHA, look through the hate and deceit
and they are losing royally. BIG OPPORTUNITY FOR THE LIKES OF SCHUMER-FEINSTEIN, PULOSI...(pu!)
PULL YOUR SECURITY WISE MEN AND WOMAN WHO WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE. LET'S SEE YOUR
IMPORTANCE OF THE CRAZINESS...NO SECURITY....MAXINE WATERS...WHO IS GOING TO PROTECT YOU
WHEN SOME LUNATIC LIKE THE ONES MARCHING DECIDE YOU....YOU...MAXINE ARE CAUSING A BIG
DISTURBANCE...WHO ARE YOU GOING TO CALL...911...NO ONE ANSWERS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE PUSHERS
FOR NO POLICE...CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THOSE DISTRESS CALLS...NO ONE ANSWERS..HILLARY CLINTON?
YOU'VE GOT HALF THE WORLD AGAINST YOU..DEFUND YOUR SECURITY...FUN TO WATCH..CAN HILLARY
TALK HERSELF OUT OF THAT SITUATION. LETS SEE YOUR PATRIORITY..BIG WOMAN WITH BIG MOUTH....

Radiance3

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Because of this mayhem, Joe Biden's brain's national poll, showed over and above the president Trump. Why? Are those correct. I think only a crazy person could vote for Biden.

Are people now wanting to be communists where the democrats are going? Join China, and NK.

Performance of the democrats in Congress is beyond a senile person's comprehension. I am so upset why there are so many remnants of communists in this country. They want to be like Hugo Chavez.

The world is blaming the US due to deceptive news portrayed by MSM. All because a black man drug addict George died in the hands of the police. But George had so many illnesses. Covid-19, heart, high blood, diabetes, drugs, alcohol, etc. [/i]

bggamers Loc: georgia

Something informative but will make you laugh(Traditional Capitalism) You have 2 cows. You sell one and buy a bull. Your herd multiplies, and the economy grows. You sell them and retire on the income (Socialism) The government takes one cow and gives it to your neighbor. (Communism) You have 2 cows. The state takes both and sells you some milk.(Nazism) You have 2 cows the state takes both and shoots you. (Bureacratism) You have 2 cows the state takes both shoots one milks the other and throws the milk away. (Venture Capitalism) You have 2 cows. You sell 3 of them to your publicly listed company using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the bank, and then execute a debit/equity swap with an associated general offer so you get all 4 cows back, with a tax exemption for 5 cows. The milk rights of 6 cows are transferred via an intermediary to a cayman island company secretly owned by majority stockholders, who sell the rights to all 7 cows back to your listed company. The annual report says the company owns 8 cows with an option on one more.

Radiance3

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Traditional capitalism is the best and most equitable.

The rests belong to the dumb and lazy allowing the gov to control their lives.

Tug484

WEBCO

I like it

JohnCorrespondent

I wasn't there; I haven't attended any protests in over a year; I've attended a few in the past, and never saw any violence nor looting. _Some_ of these recent protests (sparked by the George Floyd event) have occurred with no looting and no violence.

Nationwide, we know (or assume we know) there's been _some_ looting and _some_ violence by non-police.

I think it's reasonable to assume that most (say, at least 95% or 99%) of the protesters are peaceful. That percentage would change for the worse as soon as some of them get gassed or beaten (or shot at, or flash-bombed or sound-bombed) by police, particularly if they believe they're being wronged.

I'm sure that at least a few, out of that vast number of protesters, have done some wrong acts of violence or looting. But I think it's more accurate to regard the looters and violence-initiators as mainly a separate group(s) from the real protesters. The looters and violence-initiators are mainly fringe people who just take advantage of the situation.

All that is just parts of the whole scene. At the same time, we know there's some police brutality going on at these protests, including police abusing the press. Then also, there's the matter of why the protests are happening at all -- it's certainly not only about just one or a few killings, it's about some systemic injustice (or, racism) which has been going on a long time.

Should protests, even violent ones, ever occur? There could be some times when even violent protesting would be justified (thus the U.S.A. was born).

Also, there's the issue of: Whom are you going to believe? And: Where does one get the truer news?

fullspinzoo

I can tell just by reading your take that you are a liberal. And at the same time painting a pretty rosy picture. Liberals are out of control. They are trying to shame the police union. I love that they will trying to shame anybody famous from Brady to Beliichick demanding an opinion. Freedom to express an opinion is being stifled. They tried to fire Tucker from expressing his God-given, America given free speech opinion. You go against the grain and you are risking your job, your career, and maybe your life. Drew Brees stood up and said what was on his mind. then he coward to the Left and gave in like a week kneed joke. I'm shocked he didn't denounce his Christianity. Now he's hated by both side like a man without a country. I posted Tucker this morning. You should watch it and let me know what you think. IMHO, he was spot on.

bahmer

Amen and Amen

JohnCorrespondent

This is not a good way to begin.

Argue the material, not the messenger.

Not really.

Better to disagree on something more specific -- maybe an estimate.

Yes (about stifling) -- although I haven't been noticing that from Liberals lately -- I just know that it does happen. You are right, or at least partly right, about that. That (stifling) is a general problem, and _sometimes_ it's a problem created by Liberals (and I'm against that too -- so some "Liberals" would think I'm not one of them -- and sometimes I'm not). So you're right about this, unless you attribute this kind of problem only to Liberals. Sometimes Conservatives create this problem also.

Thank you. I haven't kept up with OPP (busy with other things currently) so I may not get to whatever that is about Tucker.

I would also agree that _some_ Liberals, in some other topic areas, are somewhat "out of control"; but that's not the big problem here; the big problem here is police brutality and racism. And rather than bemoan the out-of-controlness of some Liberals, it would be more relevant, true, and important to say that Trump is out of control and a great many of the people who support him (maybe the vast majority of them) call themselves Conservatives. Trump encourages bigotry and scapegoating and violence. That's one of the reasons it's happening (Trump's effect may be more on the vigilante types than on police per se -- vigilante-style violence and threats of violence are also happening at these protests, and that violence and those threats are not coming so much from the Black-lives-matter folks).

fullspinzoo

Interesting!!! I'm with you on some points, but disagree with you on bigotry and especially violence. If saying what's exactly on your mind is a bad thing, and a president has to weigh everything he says, I don't think you're getting the true individual. An example of somebody though saying what is on his mind is Biden. Now there is a guy who opens his mouth and puts his foot in it on a regular basis. nobody does it better than Biden.. I like Trump and his twitter. It's just real and what is on his mind. Sensitivity honesty and candidness comes through. From where are those acts of violence besides BLM?

JohnCorrespondent

You asked: "From where are those acts of violence besides BLM?"

The question suggests that you have not believed the many protesters, nor the vast and varied media. What remains that might possibly convince you, and why would _that_ convince you -- why would you trust _that_ source of information?

Here's a link; you can get a big hint just from reading the words in the link address; some photos & video are included at the site; some people find photos or video convincing:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/minneapolis-police-injure-arrest-journalists-protests.html?fbclid=IwAR3HjVAbbe-0xfubiIZL56mbeOQEATPYd8oAVre8Z8H4imEtHLvW-nUJVYs

There is yet another way to believe things; that's from personal experience. But even personal experience is subject to interpretation. I myself have never been physically harmed by police. I've been falsely arrested and seen, watched, and heard how police, lawyers, judges, other court personnel, even somebody from the sheriff's department, and assistant district attorney office personnel speak, write, and behave. I've spent a lot of time talking with people who have had similar and worse experiences. I and most of the ones I've spoken with are white, so we don't experience racism the way some other people do. But each of us has formed a general idea of how things work, and there's some overlap among our views. It's not all simply one way or another, but there are tendencies in human behavior that one learns about. Seeing others' flaws in oneself is helpful for understanding.

It may be that personal experience is the main determinant of what news a person will find credible.

Like so many others before me, I've found myself saying, "I'd never have believed it if it hadn't happened to me personally." They tried to warn me. I didn't think things were that bad. I didn't believe them. I didn't know where to draw the line, when my attorney led me down a wrong path. Then, what happened to the others, also happened to me. I learned some more.

But of course each person extrapolates from his or her own personal experience, to understand the wider world. So, you don't have to experience the _exact_ event, to believe an account of it. But if helps if you've experienced something at least vaguely similar in some aspect. And you think about it and extrapolate. The more traumatic your experience, the more it will shape your view of the world. Also, the more repeated your experience of some phenomena, the more that will shape your view of the world.