ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

As grevious as it is, why is the focus the death of George Floyd, who is black, rather than the broader issue of death at the hands of police?

People should think about the role of MSM inflaming the racial issue for the sake of publicity, ratings, or simple virtue signaling how "awoke" and politically correct they are. Is the MSM aware, or does it even care that there are many more "white" citizens dying at the hands of police then members of the black community. Isn't that the issue the MSM should be asking?

"Lost in the furor was the fact that the Floyd death was not even that egregious, when compared to the countless unnecessary deaths of unarmed civilians at the hands of police officers. Since 2017, 2,855 civilians in this country have been killed by cops. 1268 were White, 571 were “unknown” or “other,” 518 were Black, and 498 were Hispanic. Somehow, from those official numbers; the press, our laughable politicians, and deluded celebrities have concluded that “cops are killing Black men.

They are killing Black men, but more accurately, they’re killing even more non-Blacks. And the important point should be that these “public servants” have killed nearly 3,000 Americans in less than three years. By contrast, police in Norway haven’t killed a single person in over a decade."

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/06/donald-jeffries/fiddling-while-america-burns/

Kevyn

Proportional to population the police abuse, stop, ticket, arrest assault and murder blacks and non whites at a significantly greater proportion than whites.

moldyoldy

Facts don’t matter to the right.

American Vet

Cite your source you notorious liar.....

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

True. I am from Klamath county originally. Native Americans are the ones singled out and get the harshest sentences there.

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

The proportion argument is a good one. I agree with that point. I still feel that the broader issues of the "militarization of our police force", civil asset forfeiture, police brutality and coverup, prosecutorial misconduct, and using the Israeli military/policing teaching techniques as the broader issues for public discussion.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

If I may say something I agree that the police sometimes use more force than neccesary and that many develop a dislike for people in general because they work with bad actors on a constant basis. We definately have a problem.

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

I think what he is pointing out is that blacks make up about 15% of our population (I think that is about right), but account for 41% of the deaths compared to whites (518/1,268) as cited in the numbers in my post.

moldyoldy

MATH

billman6 Loc: Top of Texas

Yeah but I think they commit like 53% of the crime in the US. Do you think that might have an impact on the other numbers? I do.

Seth

Kevyn, like BalsaGuru and Mr. Mold, tends to make stuff up on a "winging it" basis, truth or evidence need not apply.

zombinis3 Loc: Southwest

In actual terms according to the FBI CRIME Report for 2017/2018 the crimes by blacks compared to whites ,
2017 12,599 agencies, estimated population 253,405,839
White folk committed 68.9 percent
Black folk committed 27.2 percent
2018 12,212 agencies , estimated population 247,752,415
White folk committed 69.0
Black folk committed 27.4
This percentage is understandable because of the total number of whites is more then blacks.
Looking at the actual breakdown of information the crimes do a flip flop down the entire report. So essentially it depends on the crime committed. The way the data was recorded depends on the way the agency's reported.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/table-43

Seth

There's also the degree of crimes to be considered, I think.

A little over a quarter century (wow, tempus does indeed fugit!) ago when I was employed in a casino security department in Reno, we and the other clubs' security and surveillance departments collectively kept statistic track of such items as gender, race and ethnicity and age groups of those observed (surveillance cameras virtually always recorded even those who got away, so no assumptions were made) and/or apprehended committing crimes on casino property.

At that time, blacks only made up about 7% of the local population, yet represented some 85-90% of crime perpetrators in the casinos, and it was almost uniquely the same degree of crime -- the easiest to get busted for, potentially lowest yield (stupid?) stuff like purse snatching, inevitably doing so in front of several videocams.

On the other hand, the majority of white perpetrated crimes were gutsier, smarter and higher yield venues such as fraud, forgery and passing counterfeit bills.

Hispanics and Asians fell right in between the two with considerably less of any crime while native Americans, mostly of the Paiute tribe, never committed any monetary crimes at all, essentially their only offenses had to do with becoming intoxicated and going on "the warpath" (drunk and rowdy).

zombinis3 Loc: Southwest

Never said that crime was not area caused. People will do what they need to do to survive like you mentioned the blacks did the small crimes which leads to the needs of survival. While the white criminals did it for greed.If the same blacks were able to survive with a decent job,do you think that they would do the small crimes? Unfortunately this sounds like I'm talking about the unfair treatment that blacks get from some.

American Vet

I would wager that the ‘small crimes’ you mention involve drugs - hardly a survival need.