Derek Chauvin - Innocent Till Proved Guilty: It’s very important to realize that now that Derek Chauvin has to face trial, he is innocent in the eyes of the law and has to be proved...

John Meoff

It’s very important to realize that now that Derek Chauvin has to face trial, he is innocent in the eyes of the law and has to be proved guilty by a jury of twelve of his peers through evidence presented by the prosecution. He is entitled to and should receive a vigorous defense. Anything less could lead to an appeal which is likely anyway.

I am not an attorney but one of the things that I think I’d pursue would be a venue outside of Minneapolis. With the atmosphere as it has been, it’s easy to see that someone could make the point that Minneapolis is poisoned.

I’ve not seen the full video and I’m not sure most of the public has. And what about the time leading up to it? The defense will have to have opportunity to examine any and all recordings.

Personally, I think the Chauvin is probably a racist and did the killing with vengeance but, it still has to be proved. That is the justice system we have to protect all of us from the state.

Any thoughts?

ImLogicallyRight

Agreed.

American Vet

John Meoff wrote:

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Before labeling him a racist, I think one would need to review his previous record/actions. He might just be ‘power junkie’ - doesn’t matter whose under his knee, just so someone is.

John Meoff

American Vet wrote:

Before labeling him a racist, I think one would need to review his previous record/actions. He might just be ‘power junkie’ - doesn’t matter whose under his knee, just so someone is.

Good point.

I do think this what OPP should be about. Not the hate-filled lying claptrap put up by the progressives.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

John Meoff wrote:

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Absolutely...

Although there is no definitive proof that he was racist...

bestpal38 Loc: Cedar City, Utah

John Meoff wrote:

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Here's my thoughts. Good luck finding a jury. This story is nationwide. Can you imagine if he gets off?? New protests will make these look like childs play!! He certainly is entitled to a fair trial, but my fear is....he can't get one at this point

Fodaoson Loc: South Texas

It does not matter if he is a racist or not. He murdered a man

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

bestpal38 wrote:

Here's my thoughts. Good luck finding a jury. This story is nationwide. Can you imagine if he gets off?? New protests will make these look like childs play!! He certainly is entitled to a fair trial, but my fear is....he can't get one at this point

Absolutely agree!!

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

John Meoff wrote:

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There’s a tape of him murdering this man and others not doing anything to help!

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

I’m predicting no change of venue. The argument will be that everyone has seen the video and the jury pool in Minnesota will be no more prejudiced than anywhere else IMO.

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Radiance3

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My question is, if Chauvin purposely killed George Floyd, why will he do that in the eyes of so many people of the world to see? Was he aware about his actions were all on the camera for all to witness? Another question is why were all the 3 other officers did not even notice that Chauvin's action was excessive against the victim? Did they notice that it could kill the victim? If it was excessive they could have stopped Chauvin.

None of that occurred. And Chauvin continued for 7 minutes putting his weight at the back of the victim who eventually die.

All those things will be questioned during the trial.
jurors' decisions are based for the evidence presented.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Exactly why the charge is second degree murder.

Radiance3 wrote:

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Radiance3

JFlorio wrote:

Exactly why the charge is second degree murder.

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If there is no intent to kill, it must be a 3rd degree.
Why will he intentionally kill? He must be aware that he will be convicted. He must think about his family, his children, and other love ones left behind.
No sane person will do such thing, unless insane. He has served for 19 years in the law enforcement.

I think the penalty must be a 3rd degree.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Once you are being told by multiple people including the victim who is handcuffed I can’t breath, you are killing me the charge is no longer Manslaughter or in this case 3rd degree murder. By kneeling on the man even after he was unconscious the cops act now shows intent. This is the correct charge.

Radiance3 wrote:

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If there is no intent to kill, it must be a 3rd degree.
Why will he intentionally kill? He must be aware that he will be convicted. He must think about his family, his children, and other love ones left behind.
No sane person will do such thing, unless insane. He has served for 19 years.

I think the penalty must be a 3rd degree.

bilordinary Loc: SW Washington

Radiance3 wrote:

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If there is no intent to kill, it must be a 3rd degree.
Why will he intentionally kill? He must be aware that he will be convicted. He must think about his family, his children, and other love ones left behind.
No sane person will do such thing, unless insane. He has served for 19 years in the law enforcement.

I think the penalty must be a 3rd degree.

If his windpipe was blocked he would not be able to say I can't breathe.
If his carotid artery was blocked he would go limp in less than 30 seconds.
I'm curious if the autopsies will detect any bruising around the neck area.
I don't believe we will be privy to any details, fair trial you know.