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Jun 1, 2020 11:59:36   #
American Vet
 
proud republican wrote:
He is addressing of what happened to Floyd live on National TV!! Trump needs to come out and face cameras and tell United States citizens that
he will do everything in his power what happened to Floyd will never happen again . ...He needs to come out of hiding, NOT tweeting, but address it in person!!!


If President Trump initiates any action, all of the ELWNJs will scream about him being a dictator. Governors need to be acting - that’s their jobs. Then they can request federal assistance.

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Jun 1, 2020 12:00:29   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Pennylynn wrote:


He has been making recommendations/demands to how Americans should handle our affairs for quite some time.

I welcome his opinions, as long as he understands that the USA does not operate the same as communist nations or laws of Canada.
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As have other members of the forum...

There is no rule stating only Americans can weigh in on certain topics...

And plenty of American posters are making similar suggestions...

Are they all confused about your laws as well???

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Jun 1, 2020 12:03:45   #
Lonewolf
 
We're still in this mess because we didn't put an end to it on day one

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Jun 1, 2020 12:04:56   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
As have other members of the forum...

There is no rule stating only Americans can weigh in on certain topics...

And plenty of American posters are making similar suggestions...

Are they all confused about your laws as well???


I said I welcome your opinions….Perhaps you are unaware of the difference between offering opinions and making demands.

No, I am not confused about our laws.

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Jun 1, 2020 12:06:27   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I said I welcome your opinions….

No, I am not confused about our laws.


Apologies... I believe I just overreacted

Thanks...

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Jun 1, 2020 12:07:14   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Lonewolf wrote:
We're still in this mess because we didn't put an end to it on day one


Yep... The very first riots should have been stopped immediately...

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Jun 1, 2020 12:08:41   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Yep... The very first riots should have been stopped immediately...


Now that is an "opinion" that I support.

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Jun 1, 2020 12:21:06   #
Noraa Loc: Kansas
 
Lonewolf wrote:
We're still in this mess because we didn't put an end to it on day one


An intelligent response!

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Jun 1, 2020 13:13:51   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
proud republican wrote:
Pandering or not.....optics are everything !!!Trump is making political mistake by hiding behind the twitter !!!
"hiding behind twitter"?

Name a cable news network, a mass communication system, a TV station, a social network, or any other such platform for public information that is not hostile to president Trump? Might find an anchor or an opinionator or a talk show host here and there who is warm to Trump, but the greatest majority of news outlets are viciously hateful toward him. Obviously the twits at Twitter are leaning that direction.

Anyone who thinks Trump brought this hate and hostility down on himself is either blind, stupid or in denial. Leftist ideologues, progressive politicians and the media opened up on him with both barrels the day he announced his candidacy for POTUS, and in short order, the entire socialist progressive machine unleashed every political and ideological weapon they could muster to destroy him. When he won the election, out came the nukes.

So, PR, to whom is president Trump going to go to get a fair and unbiased platform?

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Jun 1, 2020 13:17:41   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
"hiding behind twitter"?

Name a cable news network, a mass communication system, a TV station, a social network, or any other such platform for public information that is not hostile to president Trump? Might find an anchor or an opinionator or a talk show host here and there who is warm to Trump, but the greatest majority of news outlets are viciously hateful toward him. Obviously the twits at Twitter are leaning that direction.

Anyone who thinks Trump brought this hate and hostility down on himself is either blind, stupid or in denial. Leftist ideologues, progressive politicians and the media opened up on him with both barrels the day he announced his candidacy for POTUS, and in short order, the entire socialist progressive machine unleashed every political and ideological weapon they could muster to destroy him. When he won the election, out came the nukes.

So, PR, to whom is president Trump going to go to get a fair and unbiased platform?
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He needs to address the Nation from the Oval Office , Blade !!!Not by twitter , but from the Oval Office ....

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Jun 1, 2020 14:31:29   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Lonewolf wrote:
We're still in this mess because we didn't put an end to it on day one


You mean shoot all those poor, deprived minorities who are seeking justice for George Floyd by destroying businesses that black people worked like HELL to build?

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Jun 1, 2020 14:41:20   #
EmilyD
 
proud republican wrote:
He needs to address the Nation from the Oval Office , Blade !!!Not by twitter , but from the Oval Office ....

Even if he did that, the media would either not cover it, or spin it to look like he's being a dictator. At least with Twitter, he is talking directly to Americans without the media interfering with what he has to say. I keep Trump's Twitter page open all day long - he says lots of things directly to us that most people who don't watch Twitter don't know about.....and that the media does not cover. They don't cover it because they don't like what Trump is saying to us...

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Jun 1, 2020 15:01:31   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Yep... The very first riots should have been stopped immediately...
Chinese style, right? Sweep the streets with machine guns, flash bangs, tear gas - tanks.

Do you have any idea how difficult it is to deal with an unruly, violent, out of control mob? Even putting a stop to a minor incident of this kind isn't a slam dunk.

Once, during my career as a firefighter, a mob of maybe 300 people gathered in the middle of the busiest section of the city. I don't recall what their problem was, but the temperature was getting close to a riot. Things were heating up, the protesters were throwing bottles, beer cans, whatever they could get their hands on at the police. Damage to vehicles and property was minimal early on, but things were getting broken.

The police called us for assistance. They wanted a pumper with a mounted water cannon and a ladder truck. I happened to be the ladder truck tillerman on that occasion. (At the rear of the ladder truck is a steering system for the rear wheels of the trailer. This allows the driver and tillerman to work together negotiating tight turns and heavy traffic.)

We had been instructed in using a fire dept ladder truck for crowd control, but merely as a concept, we never trained for this. Crowd control is one thing, stopping a riot is another.

When we turned onto the street, we saw that the mob was angry and growing more violent. The police had established two lines, one on either end of the street boxing the mob in. Our battalion chief and the police incident commander had apparently decided to try the ladder truck first, followed by the pumper with the water cannon.

So, my good buddy, Norman, up front driving the tractor and I on the tiller cinched down our helmets and sallied forth. Norm drove the tractor to the left side of the street (4 lanes) and I steered the tail of the trailer to the right. The idea was to create a kind of grader blade that would force people down the street toward the far police line behind which the police had assembled paddy wagons, cruisers, and dozens of cops prepared to bust some chops and make arrests. Police units stayed on our flanks to fill that gap, and the pumper, with the water cannon manned and charged, was right behind us. (Drew you a picture.)

Within seconds of moving into position, we started getting hit. I got hit hard with a full can of beer right upside the head. Fortunately, my helmet absorbed most of the blow. The mob wasn't having any of this, all we did was piss them off even more than they were. I knew instantly this was a really dumb idea. However, less than a minute later, the water cannon opened up and it did dampen their spirits a bit. Less than five minutes after we started this fiasco, the police commander ordered us to back off.

Point is, it took one hell of a lot of the city's resources to disperse a crowd of 300 or so people. Some arrests were made, but it took the police something like 6 hours to diffuse the situation.



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Jun 1, 2020 15:12:00   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
proud republican wrote:
He needs to address the Nation from the Oval Office , Blade !!!Not by twitter , but from the Oval Office ....


President Trump starts at 16 minutes.
https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=president+trump+rocket+launch+speech#action=view&id=14&vid=24c90062c2aa3d6d02c67b869f35c9d9

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Jun 1, 2020 15:22:48   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
proud republican wrote:
He needs to address the Nation from the Oval Office , Blade !!!Not by twitter , but from the Oval Office ....


The vast majority of crimes committed are not federal crimes. Trump has told states to use more National Guard. The State police just talked about how effective a circling strategy works to contain violence. Seemed like that was a new strategy sadly. It has been used in war for 1000's of years. Maybe that is why Trump named Milley to help states fight the rioters. They may just not know this stuff.
Federal crimes have every available DOJ source working to identify perpetrators, arrest and charge and then hopely convict. Not just break the curfew hours crimes, but fires, protected property in like arson charges, interstate travel to insight or participate in riots, etc. NY just arrested two lawyers throwing fire bombs. That is good start. If anyone lives in areas with huge demonstrations, I hope you are reporting any face you may recognize to appropriate authorities.

Expect better police performance now that they have been told what to do by our Trump administration experts.

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