White protesters menacing natl guard in minnappls
May 30, 2020 15:46:59 #
Pennylynn wrote:
Point taken….but Floyd was a bouncer...former inma... (show quote)
Are you mental?
All your argument goes out the window because, Floyd was cooperating and was already cuffed.
The whole point was that he wasn't violent at all.
Man, you make me sick. Floyd was barely able to say, "please I can't breathe". So what would you have done, then? Keep pressing his neck down after you have him restrained?
You know what's funny, too? You seem like the kind of person to whine about wearing a mask because "I have a hard time breathing". Try having a knee on your neck sometime.
And before you go, "oh you're defending him because of race/you hate cops/y/z" as I'm sure you're wont to do, it isn't that at all. It's the fact that, simply, it is murder.
May 30, 2020 15:47:10 #
Pennylynn wrote:
I doubt this was an execution...had they wanted him to die, the officers would have formed a human curtain to block pedestrians from seeing or filming. And they would not have called for an ambulance so quickly. But, that is only an assumption. 
Oh no, I didn't think that at all. I thought in dealing with hugs for so long Chauvin may have been ramped up, a cowboy like my cousins were.
May 30, 2020 15:59:52 #
Pennylynn wrote:
You are assuming much, Penny, you have not taken an objective position in your "analysis" of what you believe happened.I don't get mad often, in fact the last time was 8... (show quote)
Are you saying the charges against Derek Chauvin hinge on the ME's determination of physical cause of death? More succinctly, are you saying that because the ME did not find evidence of "traumatic asphyxia or strangulation", Chauvin is therefore innocent?
By what reasoning do you "think" (assume) Floyd was "possibly dying while still sitting in his car". Eyewitnesses, including the woman who made the 911 call, said Floyd appeared to be drunk when he entered the store.
An attempt to pass a counterfeit $20 bill is a petty white collar crime, that was what the 911 caller reported and that was what the police responded to. I've seen plenty of videos of this incident and when the police got hold of Floyd, he appeared befuddled and frightened, but he did not violently resist. He was unarmed and compliant and the cops quickly had him subdued and in cuffs. Regardless of a man's physical size, once he is cuffed behind his back and face down on the street, he is helpless, he ain't going anywhere. There was no need whatsoever to employ a combat restraint technique to detain him.
Here's another experiment for you, no threat to your life might I add: Find a healthy young friend, have him lie face down on the floor and secure his hands behind his back, then just stand back and ask him to get up. If he drinks, get him drunk.
During my career as a firefighter, I had many opportunities to watch police officers deal with all kinds of incidents similar to this one. Never saw the cops treat a compliant suspect in the way the Minneapolis cops treated Floyd. In some cases, when a relatively compliant suspect was verbally resisting or arguing with the police, they got a bit rough with him, but never treated him as if he was an armed and dangerous thug.
Is it possible Floyd would still be alive had the police not used a combat restraint technique to detain him? I believe he would be.
BTW: George Floyd's family has retained forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden, former NYC chief medical examiner, to conduct an independent autopsy.
Basing your resolute defense of the Minneapolis cops, specifically Chauvin, on assumptions, speculation, and opinion is troubling.
May 30, 2020 18:53:42 #
Boo_Boo
Loc: Jellystone
Blade_Runner wrote:
You are assuming much, Penny, you have not taken a... (show quote)
Mr Blade,
I was not on scene, so I can only say what I saw in the videos. Certainly your conclusions are possible...until or if this goes to trial, we will not know what true experts will have to say.
WOW, they hired the Death Correspondent, Michael Baden, the fired chief medical examiner for the New York City office in 1979? I think he recently was involved with the Jeffrey Epstein....calling his death a murder. In his books he says JFK's assassination required more than one shooter and OJ did not kill his wife and her friend. I did enjoy his book and his TV series.... So, we may see quite a few autopsies by the time this is finished. Interesting.
Another interesting question...would Floyd be alive had he not been handcuffed or restrained...only G*D knows. That is just my opinion, and no I do not want to participate or have friends participate in an experiment where we inject a blood clot into our hearts or brain...so don't suggest it. No handcuff experiments or juvenile alcohol consumption experiment....drowning, car accidents, gun accidents, drugs...or any of the myriad ways you can imagine to bring about my demise....no thanks and do not ask me again.
May 30, 2020 18:57:47 #
May 30, 2020 20:47:52 #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Getting warmer... but not close enough...
The Murder of George Floyd sets the final stage for what is to come next.
Tick Tock !
Getting warmer... but not close enough...
The Murder of George Floyd sets the final stage for what is to come next.
Tick Tock !
Tick Tock is right Sici..
Martial Law????
May 30, 2020 20:53:07 #
amadjuster wrote:
Isn’t it odd that all of the cities where “protests” occur are run by liberal, progressive democrat mayors? And CNN just cannot bring themselves to call this a riot, even after their headquarters was attacked.
CNN will not call it right...
May 30, 2020 21:58:27 #
GoCubs wrote:
Since Floyd never resisted and was quickly handcuffed, his size is irrelevant. What would I do differently? Quite a lot. But the main thing I would've done differently is I would've lifted my knee off of his neck after he went unconscious which this bad cop did not do. Although I also wouldn't have seen the need to put my knee on his neck in the first place, seeing as how HE WAS HANDCUFFED and three of my colleagues had my back. Murder plain and simple.
Absolutely. Well stated. Floyd never should have died. He did not resist arrest, was handcuffed, should have been been placed in the patrol car and taken to the station. There was no known reason that has been explained as to why Floyd was ever on the ground. Let’s see how the Justice System works.
Larry Joe
May 30, 2020 22:57:12 #
Boo_Boo
Loc: Jellystone
Larry Joe wrote:
Absolutely. Well stated. Floyd never should have died. He did not resist arrest, was handcuffed, should have been been placed in the patrol car and taken to the station. There was no known reason that has been explained as to why Floyd was ever on the ground. Let’s see how the Justice System works.
Larry Joe
Larry Joe
Larry Joe...let me direct you to a source. I hope they clear up your confusion. It is plainly written and only 7 pages. https://www.hennepinattorney.org/-/media/Attorney/Derek-Chauvin-Criminal-Complaint.pdf?la=en&hash=1E453C8A0834E00805D32DA7132616A1D28F7AD5
May 30, 2020 23:34:24 #
Pennylynn wrote:
Good post.... did you know that Floyd was 6'6", a bouncer for a club, former tight end … high school and college? Did you know that his last prison term was 5 years (plea deal) for armed robbery, assault, and home invasion? Can we guess why the officer, under 6'0" and a feather weight compared to the mammoth Floyd, felt a need to restrain Floyd?
Did you know he was a Christian
May 31, 2020 00:10:15 #
May 31, 2020 08:34:55 #
Homericus wrote:
I am watching live on Fox the line of National Gua... (show quote)
How about all these riots in Democrat controlled cities!!!
Why any law abiding citizen still votes for Democrats is hard to understand.
A slow response to thugs, and cities burn.
Taze the perps, off with their masks, and off to jail with them with videos in hand.
May 31, 2020 08:45:59 #
eagleye13 wrote:
How about all these riots in Democrat controlled cities!!!
Why any law abiding citizen still votes for Democrats is hard to understand.
A slow response to thugs, and cities burn.
Taze the perps, off with their masks, and off to jail with them with videos in hand.
Why any law abiding citizen still votes for Democrats is hard to understand.
A slow response to thugs, and cities burn.
Taze the perps, off with their masks, and off to jail with them with videos in hand.
They vote then in because they know there will be a “fire sale” soon.
May 31, 2020 08:50:02 #
amadjuster wrote:
They vote then in because they know there will be a “fire sale” soon.
A slow response to thugs, and cities burn.
Taze the masked perps, off with their masks; and off to jail with them with videos in hand.
Is inciting a riot a felony?
It should be.
Length of jail sentences based on damages.
May 31, 2020 08:57:17 #
eagleye13 wrote:
A slow response to thugs, and cities burn.
Taze the masked perps, off with their masks; and off to jail with them with videos in hand.
Is inciting a riot a felony?
It should be.
Length of jail sentences based on damages.
Taze the masked perps, off with their masks; and off to jail with them with videos in hand.
Is inciting a riot a felony?
It should be.
Length of jail sentences based on damages.
I’m pretty sure it is a felony! Of course, someone has to arrest them.
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