We have no idea of true Justice, even whe we say we follow the symbol of justice, Christ
May 1, 2014 00:50:26 #
Justice in God's kingdom is ugly and wrong and unjust in the worldly view, besides being preposterous, unmanly, and counter-productive in our day-to-day existence. What God asks of humankind can only be answered by fools. And most often these "fools" are considered the lowest in any society. The "pillars of society" are what Jesus saw as the problem, for they saw their place, how to keep. strengthen, and enhance their place, as sovereign in their existence. Place immobilizes spirit. A sense of belonging contradicts the free movement of soul aching to be free of attachments.
May 1, 2014 00:57:27 #
The babbling nonsense of a coward and traitor.
rumitoid wrote:
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May 1, 2014 01:02:55 #
May 1, 2014 01:13:55 #
rumitoid wrote:
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"Following a "symbol" is problematic. Follow the person, Jesus Christ, our living Savior.
You're kind of swinging toward Gnosticism, rumi, with your finale.
On earth, God has relegated the administration of Justice to the government.
The church is, first of all, to worship God, 2nd, preach the gospel.
The power to do the second is directly derived from doing the first, as is the enablement to administer mercy and charity; to care for the saints (all living believers) and the indigent.
Christians are to do this personally, individually, to those they encounter in their own life, and collectively through their congregations.
I have a book entitled, "When Christians Roamed The Earth," you might enjoy reading.
It was, and is the socially elite, who place being socially elite first in their priorities, who disparage the "Kingdom of heaven," for their goal is a temporal kingdom.
May 1, 2014 01:27:34 #
Zemirah wrote:
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Justice, to me, is love, and that is always a responsibility of each heart.
No, as I see it, the Church is not to first worship God but to honor Him. How? By finding his intended joy in being and living that joy. We do not seek this but through his discipline receive this awakening.
May 1, 2014 01:33:09 #
rumitoid wrote:
Justice, to me, is love, and that is always a responsibility of each heart.
No, as I see it, the Church is not to first worship God but to honor Him. How? By finding his intended joy in being and living that joy. We do not seek this but through his discipline receive this awakening.
No, as I see it, the Church is not to first worship God but to honor Him. How? By finding his intended joy in being and living that joy. We do not seek this but through his discipline receive this awakening.
Ouch, that's a testy God you're envisioning.
Nothing honors God more than worshiping Him.
May 1, 2014 01:42:12 #
Zemirah wrote:
Ouch, that's a testy God you're envisioning.
Nothing honors God more than worshiping Him.
Nothing honors God more than worshiping Him.
Okay, you may be right, I feel nothing serves as a greater worship of God than our genuine joy of being, Worship always and unavoidably implies a certain distance. Something or someone out there that is somehow greater than we are. Joy is intimacy, a nearness of God. Take your pick.
May 1, 2014 02:38:51 #
rumitoid wrote:
Okay, you may be right, I feel nothing serves as a greater worship of God than our genuine joy of being, Worship always and unavoidably implies a certain distance. Something or someone out there that is somehow greater than we are. Joy is intimacy, a nearness of God. Take your pick.
I don't worship a distant God, rumi.
He is always infinitely greater than we are, and never any further away than a whispered prayer.
May 1, 2014 03:23:31 #
Zemirah wrote:
I don't worship a distant God, rumi.
He is always infinitely greater than we are, and never any further away than a whispered prayer.
He is always infinitely greater than we are, and never any further away than a whispered prayer.
My read, is that a worshiper's prayer is way too far removed for God to hear....or want to hear.
May 1, 2014 03:29:30 #
rumitoid wrote:
My read, is that a worshiper's prayer is way too far removed for God to hear....or want to hear.
That's NOT my God.
If you believe that, why would you bother to pray at all?
May 1, 2014 03:57:28 #
rumitoid wrote:
My read, is that a worshiper's prayer is way too far removed for God to hear....or want to hear.
That's NOT my God.
If you believe that, why would you bother to pray at all?
Hebrews 7:23-25,27: "The former priests, on the one hand, existed in greater numbers because they were prevented by death from continuing,
but Jesus, on the other hand, because He continues forever, holds His priesthood permanently.
Therefore He is able also to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them."
who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people, because
this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.
May 1, 2014 04:03:35 #
Zemirah wrote:
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It is a matter of substance, not form. of heart, not mere belief.
May 1, 2014 04:50:45 #
rumitoid wrote:
It is a matter of substance, not form. of heart, not mere belief.
Belief is everything. What do you mean "mere" belief?
I live my faith. What do you do with yours?
You can't live out a faith in which you don't sincerely believe.
Are you saying you acquiesce ritually, but only externally?
May 1, 2014 09:59:55 #
rumitoid wrote:
No, as I see it, the Church is not to first worship God but to honor Him. How? By finding his intended joy in being and living that joy. We do not seek this but through his discipline receive this awakening.
Okay, you may be right, I feel nothing serves as a greater worship of God than our genuine joy of being, Worship always and unavoidably implies a certain distance. Something or someone out there that is somehow greater than we are. Joy is intimacy, a nearness of God. Take your pick.
Okay, you may be right, I feel nothing serves as a greater worship of God than our genuine joy of being, Worship always and unavoidably implies a certain distance. Something or someone out there that is somehow greater than we are. Joy is intimacy, a nearness of God. Take your pick.
You just said the best way to worship God is to value yourself above everything else. Do you not see the conflict of truth in that concept? You don't worship something else by showing them how great you think you are.
May 1, 2014 13:12:36 #
rumitoid wrote:
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I love your profile picture, that is an excellent philosophy
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