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May 18, 2020 21:05:21   #
Rose42
 
newbear wrote:
He is a 'brother from another planet', Rose. this Canuckus has a govt. mandated app on his smart phone. This app tracks all his activities and all cell phone owners must download it.

It is also used by the Chinese authorities for assigning so called "social credit", among other tools.


The Chinese don’t need an app to track people or see what they’re doing. Neither does our government.

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May 18, 2020 21:09:30   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
The Chinese don’t need an app to track people or see what they’re doing. Neither does our government.


There is an APP that is loaded onto specific phones... It's used to actively monitor the user...

Mostly used for released criminals and suspected terrorists... It can be very invasive... But is not widespread yet...

There have been quite a few lawsuits over it...

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May 18, 2020 21:12:35   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
There is an APP that is loaded onto specific phones... It's used to actively monitor the user...

Mostly used for released criminals and suspected terrorists... It can be very invasive... But is not widespread yet...

There have been quite a few lawsuits over it...


An app isn’t needed. There is no way of stopping it unless the battery can be removed - and that can’t be done on modern phones.

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May 18, 2020 21:14:58   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
An app isn’t needed. There is no way of stopping it unless the battery can be removed - and that can’t be done on modern phones.


Understood... But the app works like an active memory bank... Saves all information... And supposedly has facial recognition ability... The phones camera is always on... Very disturbing...

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May 18, 2020 21:25:14   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Understood... But the app works like an active memory bank... Saves all information... And supposedly has facial recognition ability... The phones camera is always on... Very disturbing...


They really don’t need an app for that. The camera IS always on. The only way to stop someone from capturing from it is to cover it. Information is easily grabbed and stored. Texts, contacts, calls, locations.... The technology has been there for a while. Maybe its not as advanced in China.

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May 18, 2020 21:27:37   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
They really don’t need an app for that. The camera IS always on. The only way to stop someone from capturing from it is to cover it. Information is easily grabbed and stored. Texts, contacts, calls, locations.... The technology has been there for a while. Maybe its not as advanced in China.


No... But usually people need to monitor... This app actively flags certain things...

I don't have a lot of experience with it.. Never met anyone who has had it...

I have a friend who keeps his camera taped...

I have considered it... But went down a different route... Feel sorry for the guy who got stuck monitoring the hairy, overweight nudist... Especially when it's time to do my workout

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May 19, 2020 02:31:52   #
American Vet
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
What's the E stand for???

Effeminate?


Extreme......but also effeminate at times.

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May 19, 2020 06:04:50   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
American Vet wrote:
Extreme......but also effeminate at times.


They both work

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May 21, 2020 18:19:57   #
newbear Loc: New York City
 
Rose42 wrote:
The Chinese don’t need an app to track people or see what they’re doing. Neither does our government.


Rose42,

the CCP has to control 1.4.billion people and they use technology to help. Speak to someone who is a native speaker and reader and lives in the U.S.A.

They can translate the sources explaining methods of population control for you. One of them involves re-education camps, despite Canuckus' claim that his Uyghur "friends" are fine... (ellipsis is his, not mine)!

Huawei outsells iPhone in China 3 to 1, this ostensibly private company is also involved in international spying schemes devised by the China's military intelligence. The CFO of the company has recently been arrested in Vancouver, BC.

Please don't take this post as patronizing.

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May 21, 2020 18:25:37   #
Rose42
 
newbear wrote:
Rose42,

the CCP has to control 1.4.billion people and they use technology to help. Speak to someone who is a native speaker and reader and lives in the U.S.A.

They can translate the sources explaining methods of population control for you. One of them involves re-education camps, despite Canuckus' claim that his Uyghur "friends" are fine... (ellipsis is his, not mine)!

Huawei outsells iPhone in China 3 to 1, this ostensibly private company is also involved in international spying schemes devised by the China's military intelligence. The CFO of the company has recently been arrested in Vancouver, BC.

Please don't take this post as patronizing.
Rose42, br br the CCP has to control 1.4.billion... (show quote)


I don't take it as patronizing. Most people have no idea what they can do with these phones. Do you think its an accident that the manufacturers no longer let you replace your own battery?

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May 23, 2020 05:27:58   #
promilitary
 
contact tracing…...right out of Hitler's playbook.

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May 24, 2020 00:18:29   #
newbear Loc: New York City
 
American Vet wrote:
Extreme......but also effeminate at times.


American Vet,

please be advised that I offered the "olive branch" to our friend Canuckus and he demurred.

I would like to do the same to you, if you accept. It is in attempt to reduce the "ad hominem" attacks here on the OPP.

I do sincerely try to asses the comments of anyone here on its own merits and offer my own opinion accordingly.

I do not suspect anyone of being a "lying troll" or ignore anyone's comments intentionally, for my free time is limited as I am not a public servant.

So, please forgive me for any unintended slight and do not mistake this as a penitence for a friendship.

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May 24, 2020 00:32:18   #
newbear Loc: New York City
 
Rose42 wrote:
I don't take it as patronizing. Most people have no idea what they can do with these phones. Do you think its an accident that the manufacturers no longer let you replace your own battery?


Rose42,

the Chinese tech is much more directed towards the population control internally and the attempts to steal our intellectual property internationally.

When it comes to Canuckus' cryptic statements, I can recall the quote from Upton Sinclair: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

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May 24, 2020 07:12:16   #
American Vet
 
newbear wrote:
American Vet,

please be advised that I offered the "olive branch" to our friend Canuckus and he demurred.

I would like to do the same to you, if you accept. It is in attempt to reduce the "ad hominem" attacks here on the OPP.

I do sincerely try to asses the comments of anyone here on its own merits and offer my own opinion accordingly.

I do not suspect anyone of being a "lying troll" or ignore anyone's comments intentionally, for my free time is limited as I am not a public servant.

So, please forgive me for any unintended slight and do not mistake this as a penitence for a friendship.
American Vet, br br please be advised that I offe... (show quote)


Agreed. However some people confuse a subtle poke at their hypocrisy or illogical comments as 'ad hominem'.

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May 25, 2020 09:54:40   #
zombinis3 Loc: Southwest
 
Rose42 wrote:
An app isn’t needed. There is no way of stopping it unless the battery can be removed - and that can’t be done on modern phones.


I haven't been following for awhile. Anyway what brand of phone are you using most of the new ones I've had the battery is removable. As for the app it doesn't have to be provided by the government, there are enough people out in the world who are able to write the code to put one in on any electronic device if you don't take care and allow it. Just by opening any message that is sent to you, from an unknown source. Is the most common way.

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