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Apr 30, 2014 01:41:44   #
Brian Devon
 
Loki wrote:
I used several other sources that have nothing to do with Baylor. I notice you carefully ignored them, as you do everything that doesn't pigeonhole neatly into your parochial little Utopian dreamworld. Your feeble effort at insult is a pathetic attempt at what you consider ascerbic wit. It must be galling to your subservient Liberal soul to realize someone you consider your inferior is smarter than you.




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.........and it must be galling your shrunken conservative heart that American children are being educated by liberal teachers, in the public schools, to embrace diversity and multi-culturalism. The long term implications are that the Republican party will eventually go extinct.

Live, love, from the liberal, multi-cultural, electoral big dog state of California.

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Apr 30, 2014 01:46:37   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Brian Devon wrote:
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.........and it must be galling your shrunken conservative heart that American children are being educated by liberal teachers, in the public schools, to embrace diversity and multi-culturalism. The long term implications are that the Republican party will eventually go extinct.

Live, love, from the liberal, multi-cultural, electoral big dog state of California.




Islam is Tolerant of Other Religions



The Myth:

Religious minorities have flourished under Islam. Muslims are commanded to protect Jews and Christians (the People of the Book) and do them no harm. The Quran says in Sura 109, "To you, your religion. To me, mine."

The Truth:

Religious minorities have not “flourished” under Islam. In fact, they have dwindled to mere shadows after centuries of persecution and discrimination. Some were converted from their native religion by brute force, others under the agonizing strain of dhimmitude.

What Muslims call “tolerance,” others correctly identify as institutionalized discrimination. The consignment of Jews and Christians to dhimmis under Islamic rule means that they are not allowed the same religious rights and freedoms as Muslims. They cannot share their faith, for example, or build houses of worship without permission.

Historically, dhimmis have often had to wear distinguishing clothing or cut their hair in a particular manner that indicates their position of inferiority and humiliation. They do not share the same legal rights as Muslims, and must even pay a poll tax (the jizya). They are to be killed or have their children taken from them if they cannot satisfy the tax collector’s requirements.

For hundreds of years, the Christian population in occupied Europe had their sons taken away and forcibly converted into Muslim warriors (known as Jannisaries) by the Ottoman Turks.

It is under this burden of discrimination and third-class status that so many religious minorities converted to Islam over the centuries. Those who didn’t often faced economic and social hardships that persist to this day and are appalling by Western standards of true religious tolerance and pluralism.

For those who are not “the People of the Book,” such as Hindus and atheists, there is very little tolerance to be found once Islam establishes political superiority. The Quran tells Muslims to “fight in the way of Allah” until “religion is only for Allah.” The conquered populations face death if they do not establish regular prayer and charity in the Islamic tradition (ie. the pillars of Islam).

Tamerlane and other Muslim warriors slaughtered tens of millions of Hindus and Buddhists, and displaced or forcibly converted millions more over the last thousand years. Islamists in Somalia behead Christians. In Iran, they are jailed.

One of the great ironies of Islam is that non-Muslims are to be treated according to the very standards by which Muslims themselves would claim the right to violent self-defense were the shoe on the other foot. Islam is its own justification. Most Muslims therefore feel no need to explain the ingrained arrogance and double standard.

There are about 500 verses in the Quran that speak of Allah’s hatred for non-Muslims and the punishment that he has prepared for their unbelief. There is also a tiny handful that say otherwise, but these are mostly earlier verses that many scholars consider to be abrogated by the later, more violent ones.

As for Sura 109, any true Quran scholar will point out that the purpose of the verse was to distinguish Islam from the gods of the Quraysh (one of which was named "Allah") rather than to advocate religious tolerance for non-Muslims. At the time that he narrated this very early verse, Muhammad did not have any power, and thus no choice but to be "tolerant" of others. By contrast, there was no true tolerance shown when he returned to Mecca with power many years later and demanded the eviction or death of anyone who would not convert to Islam. In fact, he physically destroyed the cherished idols of the people to whom he had previously addressed in Sura 109.

If tolerance simply means discouraging the mass slaughter of those of a different faith, then today's Islam generally meets this standard more often than not. But, if tolerance means allowing people of other faiths the same religious liberties that Muslims enjoy, then Islam is fundamentally the most intolerant religion under the sun.

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Apr 30, 2014 02:15:38   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Brian Devon wrote:
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.........and it must be galling your shrunken conservative heart that American children are being educated by liberal teachers, in the public schools, to embrace diversity and multi-culturalism. The long term implications are that the Republican party will eventually go extinct.

Live, love, from the liberal, multi-cultural, electoral big dog state of California.


Good thing I'm not a Republican. However, you will probably sing a different song after November. I do believe that the Democrats will precede the Republicans in death.

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Apr 30, 2014 05:09:58   #
funguy1949
 
Loki wrote:
Congratulations, Brian, you have learned to cherry pick Wikipedia to support your (as usual ), PC Liberal re-write of history to suit your agenda.

According to the "Encyclopedia of Religion, (I:26 ), Allah is a pre-Islamic name corresponding to the Babylonian Baal; and "There is no reason to accept the idea that Allah passed to the Muslims from the Jews and Christians." "Islam, Beliefs and Observations" [pg. 28]

Further, in "The Encyclopedia of World Mythology and Legend," The Quraysh Tribe, from which Mohammed descended, worshipped the moon god Allah in pre-Islamic times and prayed toward Mecca while doing so. Sound familiar?
This is further borne out in "A Comprehensive Commentary on the Quran," which states that Allah worship and Baal worship were both religions that involved worship of moon, sun and stars, and related to religious practices in the ancient city of Ur, in the Chaldees.?

Who's the liar, Brian? Who is the ignorant bigot, Brian? Who is the arrogant, condescending prick who got caught out again, Brian?
Kudos and fig leaves my ass.

Live and love from the great state of Georgia, dipshit.
Congratulations, Brian, you have learned to cherry... (show quote)


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Apr 30, 2014 06:54:07   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
Brian Devon wrote:
You are truly an illiterate bigot. I have mentioned this on other posts. Islam, like Christianity is one of the monotheistic daughter religions of Judaism. Islam and Judaism trace their stories back to the same man, Abraham. They are both referred to as Abrahamic religions.

Allah is just their word for the creator and ultimate force in the universe. You are lying about this moon-god drivel. Allah is the same concept that Jews call God, Adonai, Hashem, and Eloheinu. Its the exact same concept that Christians call God, and Lord.

You are just trying to stir the pot and scapegoat a group of people who have every bit as much right to be here as anyone else.

Of course traditional Islam has some passages of ugly intolerance. So does Judaism and Christianity.

You are trying to put a fig leaf on your intolerance and racism. Kudos to the kids of this Colorado High School that are embracing the spirit of multi-culturalism and diversity.

Live, love, from the multicultural and diverse state of California.

As California goes, so goes the nation.

As Georgia goes, so goes Florida.
You are truly an illiterate bigot. I have mentione... (show quote)


Budda ,budda,budda,THUD. You really believe this rhetoric? Kudos to the kids of this Colorado high school that are embracing the spirit of multiculturalism and diversity? Haven't you ever noticed that Islam scriptures are able to pull out of a hat anything they want to further their dispicable acts? Brian, you know darn good and well that Christians don't advocate the destruction of Jerusalem by entering heaven with the skull of a Jew in their hand. Maybe one day it will be your skull or your kids they are knocking on their heavens door with! Pray it isn't so!

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Apr 30, 2014 07:26:09   #
Had enough
 
To settle this go to an American Military post and say the pledge in arabic. See their reaction! If your not shot saying the pledge in arabic would be ok.

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Apr 30, 2014 07:38:20   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
Had enough wrote:
To settle this go to an American Military post and say the pledge in arabic. See their reaction! If your not shot saying the pledge in arabic would be ok.


Our military is going crazy defending our rights and now this? Its despicable at best. Treasonous definitely. I hope a vet coming straight home from Afghanistan hears this shit! Or his kid comes home saying it was learned in his school. 8-) :roll:

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Apr 30, 2014 09:00:50   #
DockyWocky
 
Some places call this brainwashing, although the geniuses in Colorado obviously are too thick to realize they've been had.
I guess we can expect to see more of this stupidity in the future, especially since Iran, Pakistan, and Yemen are now on the Women's Relief and Women's Rights Committees of the United Nations.
Work on the youth. CAIR's standard method of spreading evil and influencing the future.
I fear for our republic, because not a smidgen of opposition was apparently raised to this obvious "invasion."

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Apr 30, 2014 09:21:46   #
CowboyMilt
 
Being a 75 yr old man, I can't accept the Pledge of Allegance in Arabic. I am all right with it in any Native American language but not Arabic. We are an English Speaking Society & that pledge was meant for English, not Arabic, Spanish or anything else except additionally Native American Indian (Indian) languages. That's just me!

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Apr 30, 2014 09:39:39   #
MrEd Loc: Georgia
 
Had enough wrote:
To settle this go to an American Military post and say the pledge in arabic. See their reaction! If your not shot saying the pledge in arabic would be ok.


I don't believe you would want to do that around the guys I was stationed with. While they would not shoot you, you would not be walking for awhile.

Multiculturalism is one of the things killing this country. Everyone has their own culture and speaks a different language and will not abide by our laws or culture. The worst of these are the Mexicans and Muslims. Each wants their own language and culture to dominate and Muslims especially want their own laws over ours. They want everyone living in the 7th century simply because then they are to ignorant to know any better. They do not want you to learn anything and suppress anything they do not understand, which is just about everything.

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Apr 30, 2014 11:57:11   #
CowboyMilt
 
HOO RAH Speed...well said...I don't want to push any freaking button for English...any foreigner coming here should learn our language & it should be the official language of the USA! Period.

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Apr 30, 2014 13:50:21   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Brian Devon wrote:
You are truly an illiterate bigot. I have mentioned this on other posts. Islam, like Christianity is one of the monotheistic daughter religions of Judaism. Islam and Judaism trace their stories back to the same man, Abraham. They are both referred to as Abrahamic religions.

Allah is just their word for the creator and ultimate force in the universe. You are lying about this moon-god drivel. Allah is the same concept that Jews call God, Adonai, Hashem, and Eloheinu. Its the exact same concept that Christians call God, and Lord.

You are just trying to stir the pot and scapegoat a group of people who have every bit as much right to be here as anyone else.

Of course traditional Islam has some passages of ugly intolerance. So does Judaism and Christianity.

You are trying to put a fig leaf on your intolerance and racism. Kudos to the kids of this Colorado High School that are embracing the spirit of multi-culturalism and diversity.

Live, love, from the multicultural and diverse state of California.

As California goes, so goes the nation.

As Georgia goes, so goes Florida.
You are truly an illiterate bigot. I have mentione... (show quote)

as dave chappel says, letz see this in slow motion. this person who allowed this to happen needs to be 'chastised' on prime time TV. continue to piss on christianity and suck on muslims like lollipops and soon...you'd better keep that to yourself. when i call out a name, i mean it as reality...you brian, are the stupidest person on OPP. you just took the lead from blojobster....thatz my boy!!!!!!!!

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Apr 30, 2014 13:55:11   #
the learning squirrel
 
cesspool jones wrote:
as dave chappel says, letz see this in slow motion. this person who allowed this to happen needs to be 'chastised' on prime time TV. continue to piss on christianity and suck on muslims like lollipops and soon...you'd better keep that to yourself. when i call out a name, i mean it as reality...you brian, are the stupidest person on OPP. you just took the lead from blojobster....thatz my boy!!!!!!!!


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Apr 30, 2014 14:24:43   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
CowboyMilt wrote:
Being a 75 yr old man, I can't accept the Pledge of Allegance in Arabic. I am all right with it in any Native American language but not Arabic. We are an English Speaking Society & that pledge was meant for English, not Arabic, Spanish or anything else except additionally Native American Indian (Indian) languages. That's just me!


Someone one who knows!!!!!!!!!!! To honor the genuine Americans, saying it in a Native American, now that would be honorable.

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Apr 30, 2014 14:26:50   #
the learning squirrel
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Someone one who knows!!!!!!!!!!! To honor the genuine Americans, saying it in a Native American, now that would be honorable.


the general population wants to promote the idea of the public being a melting pot of culture, so much so that they throw away their own.

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