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May 11, 2020 07:37:13   #
solarkin
 
And everybody is screaming yes yes yes
Do contact tracing
you don't know what your asking for

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May 11, 2020 07:53:18   #
SWMBO
 
solarkin wrote:
And everybody is screaming yes yes yes
Do contact tracing
you don't know what your asking for


The idea that the government has the right to trace everyone who has ever had contacted me< or my husband and from therethe next level of contact and so on infinitem until they have something on each person and therefore have a reason to arrest any one that refuses to become the servant of the government. Stalin couldn't have done it better.

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May 11, 2020 08:00:29   #
zombinis3 Loc: Southwest
 
solarkin wrote:
And everybody is screaming yes yes yes
Do contact tracing
you don't know what your asking for


Some don't , but the process is the same as that which was used during the presenting cases of HIV. If you were found to have it then everyone that you had contact with was asked and checked.That is the first step to get things under control. Loss of privacy yeah a whole lot of it , it was better then your one act of experimentation or life style.It also lead to the finding that the blood supply had been contaminated.

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May 11, 2020 08:03:17   #
solarkin
 
zombinis3 wrote:
Some don't , but the process is the same as that which was used during the presenting cases of HIV. If you were found to have it then everyone that you had contact with was asked and checked.That is the first step to get things under control. Loss of privacy yeah a whole lot of it , it was better then your one act of experimentation or life style.It also lead to the finding that the blood supply had been contaminated.


this is way different

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May 11, 2020 08:18:49   #
zombinis3 Loc: Southwest
 
solarkin wrote:
this is way different


No it is not , you agree that something did put people into the hospital correct? Now the country is slowly being opened up , hopefully nothing happens. In case the virus, flu or whatever you want to call it. Starts up again how many more people will be infected or reinfected. You have to count those who were never sick they will also catch it. Nowhere has it been said that the antibodies provide herd immunity . This last statement about herd immunity if I'm wrong set me straight. The statement is based on what I have read.

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May 11, 2020 09:35:42   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
solarkin wrote:
And everybody is screaming yes yes yes
Do contact tracing
you don't know what your asking for


I’m not gonna be tracked, traced, chipped or anything else. Ever!

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May 11, 2020 09:39:13   #
Rose42
 
SWMBO wrote:
The idea that the government has the right to trace everyone who has ever had contacted me< or my husband and from therethe next level of contact and so on infinitem until they have something on each person and therefore have a reason to arrest any one that refuses to become the servant of the government. Stalin couldn't have done it better.


Stalin would have done it if he'd had the technology. That's a given.

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May 11, 2020 09:46:46   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
zombinis3 wrote:
Some don't , but the process is the same as that which was used during the presenting cases of HIV. If you were found to have it then everyone that you had contact with was asked and checked.That is the first step to get things under control. Loss of privacy yeah a whole lot of it , it was better then your one act of experimentation or life style.It also lead to the finding that the blood supply had been contaminated.


Well said

Both posts

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May 11, 2020 10:04:57   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
solarkin wrote:
And everybody is screaming yes yes yes
Do contact tracing
you don't know what your asking for


Such activity in my State would be pointless, since Walmart and Lowe's never slowed down.

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May 11, 2020 10:10:03   #
Rose42
 
zombinis3 wrote:
No it is not , you agree that something did put people into the hospital correct? Now the country is slowly being opened up , hopefully nothing happens. In case the virus, flu or whatever you want to call it. Starts up again how many more people will be infected or reinfected. You have to count those who were never sick they will also catch it. Nowhere has it been said that the antibodies provide herd immunity . This last statement about herd immunity if I'm wrong set me straight. The statement is based on what I have read.
No it is not , you agree that something did put pe... (show quote)


Oh yes it is. Its much different. And now there is technology that can track you. Thankfully, most are saying no thanks to this technology. For now anyway.

How about tracking for other diseases? For suspicious people? How about we just track and record everything to be analyzed to make sure we are all "good citizens"? Where will the line be drawn?

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May 11, 2020 10:15:17   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Oh yes it is. Its much different. And now there is technology that can track you. Thankfully, most are saying no thanks to this technology. For now anyway.

How about tracking for other diseases? For suspicious people? How about we just track and record everything to be analyzed to make sure we are all "good citizens"? Where will the line be drawn?


Tracking other diseases sounds great... Same for criminals...

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May 11, 2020 11:20:09   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Tracking other diseases sounds great... Same for criminals...


“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

-CS Lewis

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May 11, 2020 11:24:11   #
Lonewolf
 
SWMBO wrote:
The idea that the government has the right to trace everyone who has ever had contacted me< or my husband and from therethe next level of contact and so on infinitem until they have something on each person and therefore have a reason to arrest any one that refuses to become the servant of the government. Stalin couldn't have done it better.


If you use facebook its already been done

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May 11, 2020 11:27:36   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

-CS Lewis
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised f... (show quote)


The corona virus I'd something we want to be cured of

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May 11, 2020 11:31:49   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
The corona virus I'd something we want to be cured of


Yes...no matter how its done. You've made that abundantly clear.

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