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May 7, 2020 21:23:29   #
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Barracuda2020 wrote:
Interesting that Mexico is the fifth-largest city in the world, yet their COVID-19 deaths have not been a steady climb as in other cities, and I'm wondering why that is?

Confirmed
26,025
+1,120

Recovered
16,810

Deaths
2,507
+236

This is an extreme difference to NYC, what did they do?


Could it be b/c its hot and sunny there and the people spend a lot more time out of doors?

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May 8, 2020 12:23:49   #
rafterman Loc: South Florida
 
Kevyn wrote:
In January 2020, the Trump administration was advised that immediate action was required to stop the spread of COVID-19. According to NIAID Director Dr. Anthony Fauci, “there was a lot of pushback” to this advice. President Trump declined to act until March 16th. Epidemiologists now estimate that, had mitigation measures been implemented one week earlier, 60% of American COVID-19 deaths would have been avoided. This will now let us all know how many Americans needlessly died as a result of Donald Trumps failure, denial and buffoonery.

https://trumpdeathclock.com/
In January 2020, the Trump administration was advi... (show quote)


Then vote him out. He made the decision he thought was correct - at that time. I wonder - haven't you EVER in your lifetime pushed back on someone or some group that provided you with information that you considered but not acted upon (you might have thought them to be incompetent or the information insufficient or incomplete, or even just plain contained no validity) and said - no way. Yet, later found out you were wrong and if you acted when advised the outcome would have been much different? Just wondering.

Presidents are elected to make decisions and if Trump should have acted one week sooner, then it is your prerogative not to vote for him in the November 2020 election. Should he be held accountable for acting when he did? Maybe! That is something that should be reviewed and honestly answered AFTER the pandemic as a possible lesson learned - NOT while it is in process. Doing the blame game and trying to analyze what Trump may or may not have done now only causes problems with the ongoing dealing with the virus. After this is over, there will be people who will say you are wrong, he acted properly. And there will be people who will agree with you and say, Trump was an idiot and should have acted earlier. The only remedy to that - if you believe Trump to be wrong - don't vote for him next election. I don't see anything in the constitutions that says excoriate, persecute and hang him because he made a judgement call that many might have made one week earlier. It's easy to second guess any decision made by any President, especially a judgement call such as this one.

There was A LOT of second guessing when JFK flubbed the Bay of Pigs (causing loss of many lives) and much more about how he handled the Cuban Missile crisis with Russia. I remember it like it was yesterday. George W. Bush will be forever second guessed for using WMD as the reason for invading Iraq (there were also many lives lost because of that invasion). Lastly, using this "Trump Death Clock" for disagreeing as to when Trump should have acted is disingenuous and disrespectful of those who died from Covid-19. (Oh, and I might add - I don't know if the number projected is even correct. I read that funeral home directors in New York are being told that every death during this pandemic is being attributed to Covid-19. So, if I drop dead of a heart attack in the next five minutes, my death will count as one for Covid-19 and will be on the Trump Death Clock. See, DISINGENUOUS.)

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May 8, 2020 12:44:28   #
EmilyD
 
Kevyn wrote:
In January 2020, the Trump administration was advised that immediate action was required to stop the spread of COVID-19. According to NIAID Director Dr. Anthony Fauci, “there was a lot of pushback” to this advice. President Trump declined to act until March 16th. Epidemiologists now estimate that, had mitigation measures been implemented one week earlier, 60% of American COVID-19 deaths would have been avoided. This will now let us all know how many Americans needlessly died as a result of Donald Trumps failure, denial and buffoonery.

https://trumpdeathclock.com/
In January 2020, the Trump administration was advi... (show quote)

The first case of coronavirus in the US was reported on January 19. On January 30, The World Health Organization declared a public health emergency. On Jan. 31, the Trump administration announced the United States would temporarily ban the admission of people from China.

It took Trump TEN days from the first reported case, and ONE day from the declaration of a public health emergency to take action against the virus.

And you think that wasn't fast enough?.....Wow!!

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May 8, 2020 14:04:18   #
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EmilyD wrote:
The first case of coronavirus in the US was reported on January 19. On January 30, The World Health Organization declared a public health emergency. On Jan. 31, the Trump administration announced the United States would temporarily ban the admission of people from China.

It took Trump TEN days from the first reported case, and ONE day from the declaration of a public health emergency to take action against the virus.

And you think that wasn't fast enough?.....Wow!!


And, it was only Jan 21 when WHO determined that the Covid-19 virus could be transmitted from one human to another. It is amazing to me that it is the same people who called Trump a racist and a dictator when he restricted travel from China who now state he should have convinced the American people to completely shut done the economy when there were only a few HUNDRED cases in the entire US.

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May 8, 2020 14:13:43   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Interesting that Mexico is the fifth-largest city in the world, yet their COVID-19 deaths have not been a steady climb as in other cities, and I'm wondering why that is?

Confirmed
26,025
+1,120

Recovered
16,810

Deaths
2,507
+236

This is an extreme difference to NYC, what did they do?
The vast majority of US cases are in densely populated metropolitan areas and cities. There are 3142 counties in the United States, just over a third of them (1,297) have no recorded cases of coronavirus infections.

Currently there are 1,256,805 confirmed cases in the US and 73,665 deaths (?)

53% (668,412) of all recorded cases and 60% (45,160) of the deaths in the US are in five states - New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Illinois, and California. Massachusetts is the only one of the five that is not governed by a democrat trifecta. MA has a republican governor, but its legislature is controlled by democrats.

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May 8, 2020 14:56:14   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
rafterman wrote:
Then vote him out. He made the decision he thought was correct - at that time. I wonder - haven't you EVER in your lifetime pushed back on someone or some group that provided you with information that you considered but not acted upon (you might have thought them to be incompetent or the information insufficient or incomplete, or even just plain contained no validity) and said - no way. Yet, later found out you were wrong and if you acted when advised the outcome would have been much different? Just wondering.

Presidents are elected to make decisions and if Trump should have acted one week sooner, then it is your prerogative not to vote for him in the November 2020 election. Should he be held accountable for acting when he did? Maybe! That is something that should be reviewed and honestly answered AFTER the pandemic as a possible lesson learned - NOT while it is in process. Doing the blame game and trying to analyze what Trump may or may not have done now only causes problems with the ongoing dealing with the virus. After this is over, there will be people who will say you are wrong, he acted properly. And there will be people who will agree with you and say, Trump was an idiot and should have acted earlier. The only remedy to that - if you believe Trump to be wrong - don't vote for him next election. I don't see anything in the constitutions that says excoriate, persecute and hang him because he made a judgement call that many might have made one week earlier. It's easy to second guess any decision made by any President, especially a judgement call such as this one.

There was A LOT of second guessing when JFK flubbed the Bay of Pigs (causing loss of many lives) and much more about how he handled the Cuban Missile crisis with Russia. I remember it like it was yesterday. George W. Bush will be forever second guessed for using WMD as the reason for invading Iraq (there were also many lives lost because of that invasion). Lastly, using this "Trump Death Clock" for disagreeing as to when Trump should have acted is disingenuous and disrespectful of those who died from Covid-19. (Oh, and I might add - I don't know if the number projected is even correct. I read that funeral home directors in New York are being told that every death during this pandemic is being attributed to Covid-19. So, if I drop dead of a heart attack in the next five minutes, my death will count as one for Covid-19 and will be on the Trump Death Clock. See, DISINGENUOUS.)
Then vote him out. He made the decision he though... (show quote)


Hindsight is always so valuable after the fact isn’t it?

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May 10, 2020 03:03:33   #
newbear Loc: New York City
 
Rose42 wrote:
Except you and other over the top zealots like yourself - right and left - only demand accountability when it suits you.

You're not awake at all.


Rose42,

as for accountability, it is a tricky concept, but I agree, "when it suits you".

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