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damn, we need a court order to let kids eat after trump screws them and end normal decency..
Apr 19, 2020 13:58:27   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
the orange pig never can understand anything at all..

http://www.forbes.com/sites/evangerstmann/2020/04/15/federal-court-rejects-trump-administrations-attempt-to-lower-the-nutrition-standards-for-school-meals/?fbclid=IwAR2OvHEpi-S8gQzDg88KLcilQCwvTTt4soeGtysaklJN59ZIS4_j-3RBlEg#11b0df8c3478


EDITORS' PICK|115,344 views|Apr 15, 2020,02:14pm EDT
Federal Court Rejects Trump Administration’s Attempt To Lower The Nutrition Standards For School Meals
Evan Gerstmann
Evan GerstmannSenior Contributor
Education
I am a professor and publish on constitutional and educational issues.

Even with schools shuttered, many students depend on school-provided meals for their daily nutrition. In an important ruling, a federal judge has just rejected the Trump administration’s effort to seriously dilute the nutrition standards for both school lunches and school breakfasts.

Under Obama, the federal government launched a long term plan to greatly increase the amount of whole grains in student meals, as well as lower the sodium content. The new standards were strongly supported by Michelle Obama as part of her anti-obesity project.

The Trump administration has been consistently hostile to the whole grains/low sodium standards, but it only became clear 2018 just how hostile it is. Initially, the administration’s position was that the standards are burdensome on schools so they needed more time to implement them. The Trump administration also averred that certain schools would need hardship waivers if they found it too difficult to meet the standards. These concerns were reflected in the “Interim Final Rule” promulgated by the administration in 2017.

Today In: Education

In 2018, Trump went much further. The Department of Agriculture issued a final rule that looked very different from the interim final rule that was made available for public comment. It didn’t just extend the timeline and make provisions for hardship waivers. It significantly diluted the substantive rules themselves, cutting back on the requirement for whole grains and allowing more sodium in kids’ breakfasts and lunches. That’s a big deal because, as a federal court has just said, over ninety percent of school children are getting too much sodium. This increases their risk of stroke, heart failure, osteoporosis, stomach cancer, and kidney disease.

This week a federal court struck the new rule down. The judge ruled that “the Final Rule is not a logical outgrowth of the Interim Final Rule.” That matters because, under the Administrative Procedure Act, the public is supposed to have a chance to comment on new rules. But in this case, the public only got a chance to comment on the Interim Final Rule. That is normally fine, but if the final rule is fundamentally different from the interim rule then the public didn’t really get an opportunity to comment on the final rule. That’s a violation of the Administrative Procedure Act.

Given the importance of school-provided meals to low-income kids, this ruling is important in and of itself. But it is also indicative of a broader problem. President Trump and his team do not seem to understand the limitations of their power. This has been recently highlighted by Trump’s claims that he has “total authority” to reopen American businesses by May 1st, despite the fact that America is a federalist system in which states share that power with the federal government.

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Apr 19, 2020 14:42:39   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
permafrost wrote:
the orange pig never can understand anything at all..

forbes.com/sites/evangerstmann/2020/04/15/federal-court-rejects-trump-administrations-attempt-to-lower-the-nutrition-standards-for-school-meals/?fbclid=IwAR2OvHEpi-S8gQzDg88KLcilQCwvTTt4soeGtysaklJN59ZIS4_j-3RBlEg#11b0df8c3478


EDITORS' PICK|115,344 views|Apr 15, 2020,02:14pm EDT
Federal Court Rejects Trump Administration’s Attempt To Lower The Nutrition Standards For School Meals
Evan Gerstmann
Evan GerstmannSenior Contributor
Education
I am a professor and publish on constitutional and educational issues.

Even with schools shuttered, many students depend on school-provided meals for their daily nutrition. In an important ruling, a federal judge has just rejected the Trump administration’s effort to seriously dilute the nutrition standards for both school lunches and school breakfasts.

Under Obama, the federal government launched a long term plan to greatly increase the amount of whole grains in student meals, as well as lower the sodium content. The new standards were strongly supported by Michelle Obama as part of her anti-obesity project.

The Trump administration has been consistently hostile to the whole grains/low sodium standards, but it only became clear 2018 just how hostile it is. Initially, the administration’s position was that the standards are burdensome on schools so they needed more time to implement them. The Trump administration also averred that certain schools would need hardship waivers if they found it too difficult to meet the standards. These concerns were reflected in the “Interim Final Rule” promulgated by the administration in 2017.

Today In: Education

In 2018, Trump went much further. The Department of Agriculture issued a final rule that looked very different from the interim final rule that was made available for public comment. It didn’t just extend the timeline and make provisions for hardship waivers. It significantly diluted the substantive rules themselves, cutting back on the requirement for whole grains and allowing more sodium in kids’ breakfasts and lunches. That’s a big deal because, as a federal court has just said, over ninety percent of school children are getting too much sodium. This increases their risk of stroke, heart failure, osteoporosis, stomach cancer, and kidney disease.

This week a federal court struck the new rule down. The judge ruled that “the Final Rule is not a logical outgrowth of the Interim Final Rule.” That matters because, under the Administrative Procedure Act, the public is supposed to have a chance to comment on new rules. But in this case, the public only got a chance to comment on the Interim Final Rule. That is normally fine, but if the final rule is fundamentally different from the interim rule then the public didn’t really get an opportunity to comment on the final rule. That’s a violation of the Administrative Procedure Act.

Given the importance of school-provided meals to low-income kids, this ruling is important in and of itself. But it is also indicative of a broader problem. President Trump and his team do not seem to understand the limitations of their power. This has been recently highlighted by Trump’s claims that he has “total authority” to reopen American businesses by May 1st, despite the fact that America is a federalist system in which states share that power with the federal government.
the orange pig never can understand anything at al... (show quote)


Oh you mean the school lunches that Obamas wife forced on America, even though the meals were usually thrown inn the garbage can uneaten.

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Apr 19, 2020 14:54:12   #
Gatsby
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Oh you mean the school lunches that Obamas wife forced on America, even though the meals were usually thrown inn the garbage can uneaten.


Hey, all of the rats have to eat too, if those kids cleaned their plates, the rats would starve,

PETA would have a fit!

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Apr 19, 2020 16:29:42   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
permafrost wrote:
the orange pig never can understand anything at all..

forbes.com/sites/evangerstmann/2020/04/15/federal-court-rejects-trump-administrations-attempt-to-lower-the-nutrition-standards-for-school-meals/?fbclid=IwAR2OvHEpi-S8gQzDg88KLcilQCwvTTt4soeGtysaklJN59ZIS4_j-3RBlEg#11b0df8c3478


EDITORS' PICK|115,344 views|Apr 15, 2020,02:14pm EDT
Federal Court Rejects Trump Administration’s Attempt To Lower The Nutrition Standards For School Meals
Evan Gerstmann
Evan GerstmannSenior Contributor
Education
I am a professor and publish on constitutional and educational issues.

Even with schools shuttered, many students depend on school-provided meals for their daily nutrition. In an important ruling, a federal judge has just rejected the Trump administration’s effort to seriously dilute the nutrition standards for both school lunches and school breakfasts.

Under Obama, the federal government launched a long term plan to greatly increase the amount of whole grains in student meals, as well as lower the sodium content. The new standards were strongly supported by Michelle Obama as part of her anti-obesity project.

The Trump administration has been consistently hostile to the whole grains/low sodium standards, but it only became clear 2018 just how hostile it is. Initially, the administration’s position was that the standards are burdensome on schools so they needed more time to implement them. The Trump administration also averred that certain schools would need hardship waivers if they found it too difficult to meet the standards. These concerns were reflected in the “Interim Final Rule” promulgated by the administration in 2017.

Today In: Education

In 2018, Trump went much further. The Department of Agriculture issued a final rule that looked very different from the interim final rule that was made available for public comment. It didn’t just extend the timeline and make provisions for hardship waivers. It significantly diluted the substantive rules themselves, cutting back on the requirement for whole grains and allowing more sodium in kids’ breakfasts and lunches. That’s a big deal because, as a federal court has just said, over ninety percent of school children are getting too much sodium. This increases their risk of stroke, heart failure, osteoporosis, stomach cancer, and kidney disease.

This week a federal court struck the new rule down. The judge ruled that “the Final Rule is not a logical outgrowth of the Interim Final Rule.” That matters because, under the Administrative Procedure Act, the public is supposed to have a chance to comment on new rules. But in this case, the public only got a chance to comment on the Interim Final Rule. That is normally fine, but if the final rule is fundamentally different from the interim rule then the public didn’t really get an opportunity to comment on the final rule. That’s a violation of the Administrative Procedure Act.

Given the importance of school-provided meals to low-income kids, this ruling is important in and of itself. But it is also indicative of a broader problem. President Trump and his team do not seem to understand the limitations of their power. This has been recently highlighted by Trump’s claims that he has “total authority” to reopen American businesses by May 1st, despite the fact that America is a federalist system in which states share that power with the federal government.
the orange pig never can understand anything at al... (show quote)


Trumps idea of government is to do nothing, regulate nothing, harass States that didn't vote for him, threaten other countries with fire, fury and tariffs, spend lavishly, and borrow heavily. What can go wrong?

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Apr 19, 2020 17:39:07   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
permafrost wrote:
the orange pig never can understand anything at all..

forbes.com/sites/evangerstmann/2020/04/15/federal-court-rejects-trump-administrations-attempt-to-lower-the-nutrition-standards-for-school-meals/?fbclid=IwAR2OvHEpi-S8gQzDg88KLcilQCwvTTt4soeGtysaklJN59ZIS4_j-3RBlEg#11b0df8c3478


EDITORS' PICK|115,344 views|Apr 15, 2020,02:14pm EDT
Federal Court Rejects Trump Administration’s Attempt To Lower The Nutrition Standards For School Meals
Evan Gerstmann
Evan GerstmannSenior Contributor
Education
I am a professor and publish on constitutional and educational issues.

Even with schools shuttered, many students depend on school-provided meals for their daily nutrition. In an important ruling, a federal judge has just rejected the Trump administration’s effort to seriously dilute the nutrition standards for both school lunches and school breakfasts.

Under Obama, the federal government launched a long term plan to greatly increase the amount of whole grains in student meals, as well as lower the sodium content. The new standards were strongly supported by Michelle Obama as part of her anti-obesity project.

The Trump administration has been consistently hostile to the whole grains/low sodium standards, but it only became clear 2018 just how hostile it is. Initially, the administration’s position was that the standards are burdensome on schools so they needed more time to implement them. The Trump administration also averred that certain schools would need hardship waivers if they found it too difficult to meet the standards. These concerns were reflected in the “Interim Final Rule” promulgated by the administration in 2017.

Today In: Education

In 2018, Trump went much further. The Department of Agriculture issued a final rule that looked very different from the interim final rule that was made available for public comment. It didn’t just extend the timeline and make provisions for hardship waivers. It significantly diluted the substantive rules themselves, cutting back on the requirement for whole grains and allowing more sodium in kids’ breakfasts and lunches. That’s a big deal because, as a federal court has just said, over ninety percent of school children are getting too much sodium. This increases their risk of stroke, heart failure, osteoporosis, stomach cancer, and kidney disease.

This week a federal court struck the new rule down. The judge ruled that “the Final Rule is not a logical outgrowth of the Interim Final Rule.” That matters because, under the Administrative Procedure Act, the public is supposed to have a chance to comment on new rules. But in this case, the public only got a chance to comment on the Interim Final Rule. That is normally fine, but if the final rule is fundamentally different from the interim rule then the public didn’t really get an opportunity to comment on the final rule. That’s a violation of the Administrative Procedure Act.

Given the importance of school-provided meals to low-income kids, this ruling is important in and of itself. But it is also indicative of a broader problem. President Trump and his team do not seem to understand the limitations of their power. This has been recently highlighted by Trump’s claims that he has “total authority” to reopen American businesses by May 1st, despite the fact that America is a federalist system in which states share that power with the federal government.
the orange pig never can understand anything at al... (show quote)


When you start a thread with an insulting "orange pig" comment, and I'm sorry for the reference to the pigs, you make the rest of us think that is what you are. So there is nothing more to read and the contents of your post are NWR

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Apr 19, 2020 18:14:48   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
When you start a thread with an insulting "orange pig" comment, and I'm sorry for the reference to the pigs, you make the rest of us think that is what you are. So there is nothing more to read and the contents of your post are NWR


Then I expect you to stay the hell away and let the grownups talk..



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Apr 19, 2020 18:15:27   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Trumps idea of government is to do nothing, regulate nothing, harass States that didn't vote for him, threaten other countries with fire, fury and tariffs, spend lavishly, and borrow heavily. What can go wrong?



I can hear the ship sinking even as I type...LOL

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Apr 19, 2020 18:58:29   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
permafrost wrote:
the orange pig never can understand anything at all..

forbes.com/sites/evangerstmann/2020/04/15/federal-court-rejects-trump-administrations-attempt-to-lower-the-nutrition-standards-for-school-meals/?fbclid=IwAR2OvHEpi-S8gQzDg88KLcilQCwvTTt4soeGtysaklJN59ZIS4_j-3RBlEg#11b0df8c3478


EDITORS' PICK|115,344 views|Apr 15, 2020,02:14pm EDT
Federal Court Rejects Trump Administration’s Attempt To Lower The Nutrition Standards For School Meals
Evan Gerstmann
Evan GerstmannSenior Contributor
Education
I am a professor and publish on constitutional and educational issues.

Even with schools shuttered, many students depend on school-provided meals for their daily nutrition. In an important ruling, a federal judge has just rejected the Trump administration’s effort to seriously dilute the nutrition standards for both school lunches and school breakfasts.

Under Obama, the federal government launched a long term plan to greatly increase the amount of whole grains in student meals, as well as lower the sodium content. The new standards were strongly supported by Michelle Obama as part of her anti-obesity project.

The Trump administration has been consistently hostile to the whole grains/low sodium standards, but it only became clear 2018 just how hostile it is. Initially, the administration’s position was that the standards are burdensome on schools so they needed more time to implement them. The Trump administration also averred that certain schools would need hardship waivers if they found it too difficult to meet the standards. These concerns were reflected in the “Interim Final Rule” promulgated by the administration in 2017.

Today In: Education

In 2018, Trump went much further. The Department of Agriculture issued a final rule that looked very different from the interim final rule that was made available for public comment. It didn’t just extend the timeline and make provisions for hardship waivers. It significantly diluted the substantive rules themselves, cutting back on the requirement for whole grains and allowing more sodium in kids’ breakfasts and lunches. That’s a big deal because, as a federal court has just said, over ninety percent of school children are getting too much sodium. This increases their risk of stroke, heart failure, osteoporosis, stomach cancer, and kidney disease.

This week a federal court struck the new rule down. The judge ruled that “the Final Rule is not a logical outgrowth of the Interim Final Rule.” That matters because, under the Administrative Procedure Act, the public is supposed to have a chance to comment on new rules. But in this case, the public only got a chance to comment on the Interim Final Rule. That is normally fine, but if the final rule is fundamentally different from the interim rule then the public didn’t really get an opportunity to comment on the final rule. That’s a violation of the Administrative Procedure Act.

Given the importance of school-provided meals to low-income kids, this ruling is important in and of itself. But it is also indicative of a broader problem. President Trump and his team do not seem to understand the limitations of their power. This has been recently highlighted by Trump’s claims that he has “total authority” to reopen American businesses by May 1st, despite the fact that America is a federalist system in which states share that power with the federal government.
the orange pig never can understand anything at al... (show quote)


Why can't parents feed their own kids???

And whole grains are awesome...

Why would anyone educational institution provide children with crap food?

The basics are pretty easy to put together...

Tip: When looking for a private school (last year I went on a tour of number of preschools in my city) one of the best indicators of the quality of a school is its cafeteria.... See what they're feeding the kids and how they're preparing it and you'll have good idea how serious they are about your child....

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Apr 19, 2020 18:59:02   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
permafrost wrote:
Then I expect you to stay the hell away and let the grownups talk..


Love this meme

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Apr 19, 2020 19:11:55   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Why can't parents feed their own kids???

And whole grains are awesome...

Why would anyone educational institution provide children with crap food?

The basics are pretty easy to put together...

Tip: When looking for a private school (last year I went on a tour of number of preschools in my city) one of the best indicators of the quality of a school is its cafeteria.... See what they're feeding the kids and how they're preparing it and you'll have good idea how serious they are about your child....
Why can't parents feed their own kids??? br br A... (show quote)



The whole thing is strange to me.. we had school lunches when I was in grade school.. Long time ago..

when americans had been getting fatter and fatter for a couple decades, miz Obama tried a better healthier lunch in school.. some kids wanted cheetos, chips and pop in stead.. tossed away the lunch.. enemies of good health blamed her for making lunch unfit to eat and for over a decade it has been a live or die issue.. trump goal is to undo everything that Obama was in anyway connected to so he abolished the healthy lunch idea and the post was about the latest chapter in the starve the kids programme.. of the orange..



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Apr 19, 2020 19:16:21   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Love this meme



I do also.... even the guy reminds me of a constant war protester at the U of MN... at the time I wanted to kick his behind... shows we can and do change over time..

He would sit on the ground with a few others , selling candles and holding anti-war signs..

So dumb, but makes more sense then doing what we are now doing.. darn..
So dumb, but makes more sense then doing what we a...

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Apr 19, 2020 19:26:18   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
permafrost wrote:
Then I expect you to stay the hell away and let the grownups talk..


Then I expect you to stay the hell away and let the grownups talk..

>>>I would, but you keep posting.

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Apr 19, 2020 21:30:21   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
permafrost wrote:
The whole thing is strange to me.. we had school lunches when I was in grade school.. Long time ago..

when americans had been getting fatter and fatter for a couple decades, miz Obama tried a better healthier lunch in school.. some kids wanted cheetos, chips and pop in stead.. tossed away the lunch.. enemies of good health blamed her for making lunch unfit to eat and for over a decade it has been a live or die issue.. trump goal is to undo everything that Obama was in anyway connected to so he abolished the healthy lunch idea and the post was about the latest chapter in the starve the kids programme.. of the orange..
The whole thing is strange to me.. we had school l... (show quote)


Wholegrain bread... Some cucumbers an tomatoes... A little cheese...Mayo and/ or mustard... Turkey, chicken, or ham.... Great sandwich there... Throw in some carrots, celery, or broccoli... An application or orange... Done... That's a decent lunch for anyone...

Who gives kids chips and soda for lunch

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Apr 19, 2020 21:31:54   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
permafrost wrote:
I do also.... even the guy reminds me of a constant war protester at the U of MN... at the time I wanted to kick his behind... shows we can and do change over time..

He would sit on the ground with a few others , selling candles and holding anti-war signs..


Good suggestions

Where would the 50 trillion come from

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