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Apr 18, 2020 08:38:29   #
Kevyn
 
In the middle of the 14th century, the Black Death killed perhaps a third of Europe’s population, hastening the breakdown of rigid social hierarchies – what we now call “feudalism” – to an astonishing degree. But there was nothing inevitable about that transformation. It happened because people such as William Caburn exploited the crisis.

Two years after the plague hit England, this Lincolnshire ploughman was in court for “refusing to work at the daily rate”. He had no legal right to do so, but leveraging the fact that landlords didn’t have enough workers to cultivate the land, he bartered for higher wages.

It wasn’t just wages – peasants also collectively bargained for lower rents. We see in the accounts of one landlord how, in the several villages dotted across his Warwickshire estate, most tenants suddenly went into arrears at the same time. Almost certainly they were secretly communicating and cooperating.

Some landlords cut their rents by more than half between 1350 and 1400. In the same period, wages for agricultural workers rose by around 50% for men and 100% for women. And by the turn of the century, almost all rents in England were paid in cash, rather than feudal services, reflecting how many former serfs had bought their freedom.

At the beginning of the 20th century similar crisis and abuse and the failures of Europe’s ruling classes in the first world war, and then by another plague: the 1918 outbreak of Spanish flu, which killed tens of millions had the masses demand and get needed change.

Across many of the countries affected by the pandemic, militants and reformers demanded change, and governments improvised public health innovations. The eventual result was the first phase of welfare state construction across the world, which climaxed with the Swedish social democrats’ ambitious reforms of the 1930s. These provided housing, childcare, child benefits, pensions and other social security. Once again, political organising in response to a pandemic had enabled enormous change. We must not miss the opportunity before us.



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Apr 18, 2020 08:54:08   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Kevyn wrote:
In the middle of the 14th century, the Black Death killed perhaps a third of Europe’s population, hastening the breakdown of rigid social hierarchies – what we now call “feudalism” – to an astonishing degree. But there was nothing inevitable about that transformation. It happened because people such as William Caburn exploited the crisis.

Two years after the plague hit England, this Lincolnshire ploughman was in court for “refusing to work at the daily rate”. He had no legal right to do so, but leveraging the fact that landlords didn’t have enough workers to cultivate the land, he bartered for higher wages.

It wasn’t just wages – peasants also collectively bargained for lower rents. We see in the accounts of one landlord how, in the several villages dotted across his Warwickshire estate, most tenants suddenly went into arrears at the same time. Almost certainly they were secretly communicating and cooperating.

Some landlords cut their rents by more than half between 1350 and 1400. In the same period, wages for agricultural workers rose by around 50% for men and 100% for women. And by the turn of the century, almost all rents in England were paid in cash, rather than feudal services, reflecting how many former serfs had bought their freedom.

At the beginning of the 20th century similar crisis and abuse and the failures of Europe’s ruling classes in the first world war, and then by another plague: the 1918 outbreak of Spanish flu, which killed tens of millions had the masses demand and get needed change.

Across many of the countries affected by the pandemic, militants and reformers demanded change, and governments improvised public health innovations. The eventual result was the first phase of welfare state construction across the world, which climaxed with the Swedish social democrats’ ambitious reforms of the 1930s. These provided housing, childcare, child benefits, pensions and other social security. Once again, political organising in response to a pandemic had enabled enormous change. We must not miss the opportunity before us.
In the middle of the 14th century, the Black Death... (show quote)


No, they are demanding the right to make their own decisions on how they wish to live their lives.

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Apr 18, 2020 09:15:52   #
Lonewolf
 
Kevyn wrote:
In the middle of the 14th century, the Black Death killed perhaps a third of Europe’s population, hastening the breakdown of rigid social hierarchies – what we now call “feudalism” – to an astonishing degree. But there was nothing inevitable about that transformation. It happened because people such as William Caburn exploited the crisis.

Two years after the plague hit England, this Lincolnshire ploughman was in court for “refusing to work at the daily rate”. He had no legal right to do so, but leveraging the fact that landlords didn’t have enough workers to cultivate the land, he bartered for higher wages.

It wasn’t just wages – peasants also collectively bargained for lower rents. We see in the accounts of one landlord how, in the several villages dotted across his Warwickshire estate, most tenants suddenly went into arrears at the same time. Almost certainly they were secretly communicating and cooperating.

Some landlords cut their rents by more than half between 1350 and 1400. In the same period, wages for agricultural workers rose by around 50% for men and 100% for women. And by the turn of the century, almost all rents in England were paid in cash, rather than feudal services, reflecting how many former serfs had bought their freedom.

At the beginning of the 20th century similar crisis and abuse and the failures of Europe’s ruling classes in the first world war, and then by another plague: the 1918 outbreak of Spanish flu, which killed tens of millions had the masses demand and get needed change.

Across many of the countries affected by the pandemic, militants and reformers demanded change, and governments improvised public health innovations. The eventual result was the first phase of welfare state construction across the world, which climaxed with the Swedish social democrats’ ambitious reforms of the 1930s. These provided housing, childcare, child benefits, pensions and other social security. Once again, political organising in response to a pandemic had enabled enormous change. We must not miss the opportunity before us.
In the middle of the 14th century, the Black Death... (show quote)



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Apr 18, 2020 09:16:57   #
Lonewolf
 
no propaganda please wrote:
No, they are demanding the right to make their own decisions on how they wish to live their lives.


That's why we have laws to protect idiots from them selves ,

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Apr 18, 2020 09:27:50   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Lonewolf wrote:
That's why we have laws to protect idiots from them selves ,


It hasn't worked has it? They are still all voting Democrat. They might not all vote Democrat if a Socialist party were officially established, they they would have two choices.

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Apr 18, 2020 09:42:04   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Lonewolf wrote:
That's why we have laws to protect idiots from them selves ,

Last time I checked, in this country you are free to be as crazy or as stupid as you want. Look at all the leftists in this board.

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Apr 18, 2020 10:07:55   #
Cuda2020
 
Parky60 wrote:
Last time I checked, in this country you are free to be as crazy or as stupid as you want. Look at all the leftists in this board.


You know it is the right who keeps on its offensive rants of an entire party versus one individual who has proven himself to be a liar and a crook, meanwhile, all their accusations are only based on propaganda lies by the people who manipulate them. Whereas the left accusations are based on facts by the EO's, bills and bills that have been rescinded. If you want stupid, look to the right, not the left.

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Apr 18, 2020 10:08:35   #
solarkin
 
Kevyn wrote:
In the middle of the 14th century, the Black Death killed perhaps a third of Europe’s population, hastening the breakdown of rigid social hierarchies – what we now call “feudalism” – to an astonishing degree. But there was nothing inevitable about that transformation. It happened because people such as William Caburn exploited the crisis.

Two years after the plague hit England, this Lincolnshire ploughman was in court for “refusing to work at the daily rate”. He had no legal right to do so, but leveraging the fact that landlords didn’t have enough workers to cultivate the land, he bartered for higher wages.

It wasn’t just wages – peasants also collectively bargained for lower rents. We see in the accounts of one landlord how, in the several villages dotted across his Warwickshire estate, most tenants suddenly went into arrears at the same time. Almost certainly they were secretly communicating and cooperating.

Some landlords cut their rents by more than half between 1350 and 1400. In the same period, wages for agricultural workers rose by around 50% for men and 100% for women. And by the turn of the century, almost all rents in England were paid in cash, rather than feudal services, reflecting how many former serfs had bought their freedom.

At the beginning of the 20th century similar crisis and abuse and the failures of Europe’s ruling classes in the first world war, and then by another plague: the 1918 outbreak of Spanish flu, which killed tens of millions had the masses demand and get needed change.

Across many of the countries affected by the pandemic, militants and reformers demanded change, and governments improvised public health innovations. The eventual result was the first phase of welfare state construction across the world, which climaxed with the Swedish social democrats’ ambitious reforms of the 1930s. These provided housing, childcare, child benefits, pensions and other social security. Once again, political organising in response to a pandemic had enabled enormous change. We must not miss the opportunity before us.
In the middle of the 14th century, the Black Death... (show quote)
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You frakin Communists see every disaster as an "opportunity "
you're frakin sick

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Apr 18, 2020 10:10:24   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Lonewolf wrote:
That's why we have laws to protect idiots from them selves ,


Well we sure know that doesn’t work don’t we... lololol

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Apr 18, 2020 10:16:10   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Kevyn wrote:
In the middle of the 14th century, the Black Death killed perhaps a third of Europe’s population, hastening the breakdown of rigid social hierarchies – what we now call “feudalism” – to an astonishing degree. But there was nothing inevitable about that transformation. It happened because people such as William Caburn exploited the crisis.

Two years after the plague hit England, this Lincolnshire ploughman was in court for “refusing to work at the daily rate”. He had no legal right to do so, but leveraging the fact that landlords didn’t have enough workers to cultivate the land, he bartered for higher wages.

It wasn’t just wages – peasants also collectively bargained for lower rents. We see in the accounts of one landlord how, in the several villages dotted across his Warwickshire estate, most tenants suddenly went into arrears at the same time. Almost certainly they were secretly communicating and cooperating.

Some landlords cut their rents by more than half between 1350 and 1400. In the same period, wages for agricultural workers rose by around 50% for men and 100% for women. And by the turn of the century, almost all rents in England were paid in cash, rather than feudal services, reflecting how many former serfs had bought their freedom.

At the beginning of the 20th century similar crisis and abuse and the failures of Europe’s ruling classes in the first world war, and then by another plague: the 1918 outbreak of Spanish flu, which killed tens of millions had the masses demand and get needed change.

Across many of the countries affected by the pandemic, militants and reformers demanded change, and governments improvised public health innovations. The eventual result was the first phase of welfare state construction across the world, which climaxed with the Swedish social democrats’ ambitious reforms of the 1930s. These provided housing, childcare, child benefits, pensions and other social security. Once again, political organising in response to a pandemic had enabled enormous change. We must not miss the opportunity before us.
In the middle of the 14th century, the Black Death... (show quote)


Not exactly, kevvyyy. They want the country back up and running so they can get back to work earning their own income and surviving as they were prior to this virus attack. Something you know nothing obviously...

And all the other viruses we’ve had that pose the same eminent threat of death we were shut down the country?

The virus is real the lyen media hype to it and intentional misleading of the left speaks volumes...

https://youtu.be/YZBFUA0JjFk

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Apr 18, 2020 11:24:20   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Kevyn wrote:
In the middle of the 14th century, the Black Death killed perhaps a third of Europe’s population, hastening the breakdown of rigid social hierarchies – what we now call “feudalism” – to an astonishing degree. But there was nothing inevitable about that transformation. It happened because people such as William Caburn exploited the crisis.

Two years after the plague hit England, this Lincolnshire ploughman was in court for “refusing to work at the daily rate”. He had no legal right to do so, but leveraging the fact that landlords didn’t have enough workers to cultivate the land, he bartered for higher wages.

It wasn’t just wages – peasants also collectively bargained for lower rents. We see in the accounts of one landlord how, in the several villages dotted across his Warwickshire estate, most tenants suddenly went into arrears at the same time. Almost certainly they were secretly communicating and cooperating.

Some landlords cut their rents by more than half between 1350 and 1400. In the same period, wages for agricultural workers rose by around 50% for men and 100% for women. And by the turn of the century, almost all rents in England were paid in cash, rather than feudal services, reflecting how many former serfs had bought their freedom.

At the beginning of the 20th century similar crisis and abuse and the failures of Europe’s ruling classes in the first world war, and then by another plague: the 1918 outbreak of Spanish flu, which killed tens of millions had the masses demand and get needed change.

Across many of the countries affected by the pandemic, militants and reformers demanded change, and governments improvised public health innovations. The eventual result was the first phase of welfare state construction across the world, which climaxed with the Swedish social democrats’ ambitious reforms of the 1930s. These provided housing, childcare, child benefits, pensions and other social security. Once again, political organising in response to a pandemic had enabled enormous change. We must not miss the opportunity before us.
In the middle of the 14th century, the Black Death... (show quote)


Re-establish our power. That sounds a lot like a Stalinist idea statement, which would make sense, considering who posted it here.

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Apr 18, 2020 11:42:00   #
Rose42
 
no propaganda please wrote:
No, they are demanding the right to make their own decisions on how they wish to live their lives.


Thats something people like kevyn don’t care about. They’d rather live as a slave. Its a mindset that seems to be growing.

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Apr 18, 2020 13:26:29   #
Trumpnotthestormiestpres Loc: L.A.
 
lindajoy wrote:
Not exactly, kevvyyy. They want the country back up and running so they can get back to work earning their own income and surviving as they were prior to this virus attack. Something you know nothing obviously...

And all the other viruses we’ve had that pose the same eminent threat of death we were shut down the country?

The virus is real the lyen media hype to it and intentional misleading of the left speaks volumes...

https://youtu.be/YZBFUA0JjFk


yes the hype is unbeleivable. its like they all have a conference call in the morning. Ok today we hype ventilators. Today we hype debts. Today we complain that 80 million people didn't get free cash fast enough...ok today we hype testing testing testing. Does it matter No.

The plan is to keep this hysteria drumbeat so people wont see the great job this president is doing with everything that is coming across his desk. Impeached and pandemic and he still has approval rating? The fraking unbeleivable.

Hype keeps people watching tV and programmed and they do a protest and idiot scrawny vampire Judy from Mcneil Lehrer cant shut up about testing.
There was a two hour lecture about testing form Dr. Birx friday.

Press ignored all the details and kept yapping like testing was going to be in every household in three days.

STFU already.

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Apr 18, 2020 15:30:20   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Trumpnotthestormiestpres wrote:
yes the hype is unbeleivable. its like they all have a conference call in the morning. Ok today we hype ventilators. Today we hype debts. Today we complain that 80 million people didn't get free cash fast enough...ok today we hype testing testing testing. Does it matter No.

The plan is to keep this hysteria drumbeat so people wont see the great job this president is doing with everything that is coming across his desk. Impeached and pandemic and he still has approval rating? The fraking unbeleivable.

Hype keeps people watching tV and programmed and they do a protest and idiot scrawny vampire Judy from Mcneil Lehrer cant shut up about testing.
There was a two hour lecture about testing form Dr. Birx friday.

Press ignored all the details and kept yapping like testing was going to be in every household in three days.

STFU already.
yes the hype is unbeleivable. its like they all ha... (show quote)


Its the agenda of the left from day one!! So obvious it is truly Ridiculous at this point..

Doom and gloom regardless of whose running their mouths for that face time recognition on TV... So glad I prefer music to it..

I mean really so sick of it all ( no pun intended) its like WTH did the World just stop? No other important matters of our country or world?? Have we not had other virus’ that could kill?! Did we shut the country down then?? Where's ourConstitutional protection of some of these over reaching leftist marxist trying to stymie a persons right of religion for example?? We are not under any Marshall Law declaration etc....

Good damn grief what a friggen mess!!! The most incompetent flyby nights I’ve ever experienced and we put em in office, no less... Well in-some instances we did... pppfffttt

Watch out for what we tolerate lest we go right into a true tyranny issue!

Meanwhile Trumps done everything. Wrong...~~ No one else just Trump...lololol idiots~~

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Apr 19, 2020 05:40:07   #
roy
 
lindajoy wrote:
Its the agenda of the left from day one!! So obvious it is truly Ridiculous at this point..

Doom and gloom regardless of whose running their mouths for that face time recognition on TV... So glad I prefer music to it..

I mean really so sick of it all ( no pun intended) its like WTH did the World just stop? No other important matters of our country or world?? Have we not had other virus’ that could kill?! Did we shut the country down then?? Where's ourConstitutional protection of some of these over reaching leftist marxist trying to stymie a persons right of religion for example?? We are not under any Marshall Law declaration etc....

Good damn grief what a friggen mess!!! The most incompetent flyby nights I’ve ever experienced and we put em in office, no less... Well in-some instances we did... pppfffttt

Watch out for what we tolerate lest we go right into a true tyranny issue!

Meanwhile Trumps done everything. Wrong...~~ No one else just Trump...lololol idiots~~
Its the agenda of the left from day one!! So obvio... (show quote)


I for one will be glad when all you people go back to work .I'm tired of hearing all the pissing and moaning.Let's just hope that when you do the virus doesn't start blowing up big time and everything has to be shut down again,One thing people need to do when they go back to work is put back an emergency fund,because as people on opp say this goverment does not owe you a thing.It's sad this economy is supposed to be so great so many people working,and miss a weeks pay and they can't pay their rent,house payments car payments,and can't buy food.But then they sit in their car for hours waiting on a food box.

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