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Apr 14, 2020 22:37:33   #
Redangel62
 
archie bunker wrote:
I love my pig meat.... we couldn't have bacon without them!


Lol. That's for sure. I eat Turkey bacon and while its edible doesnt have the same taste as bacon

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Apr 14, 2020 22:42:07   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
Also ducks, geese, carp, catfish, badgers, vultures, is what I remember. They are some more but without reading and refreshing my memory I can't remember. But your right GOD said these clean the earth so disease will not be on the ground and maybe getting into the waters.

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Apr 14, 2020 22:57:05   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:
Biblically unclean animals responsible for pandemics

Is it possible we've been ignoring the practicality and divine instructions?'

Nearly every influenza pandemic for the last 1,000 years would have been prevented if the Bible's prohibition against "unclean" animals had been headed, argues Bible teacher David Rives.

The host of TBN’s "Creation in the 21st Century" and the author of "Bible Knows Best," Rives noted that the majority of such animals are scavengers that are prone to passing on diseases to humans.

Among them are bats, which are believed to have been the transmitter of the coronavirus to humans in Wuhan, China.

"Do you find it even slightly curious that this pandemic — responsible for countless tens of thousands of deaths around the world — originated from what appears to be the consumption of BATS in China?"

Such animals are "here for good reasons," Rivas said, such as cleaning the environment.

But eating them is not one of those reasons.

"Was God simply placing oppressive rules upon His people so that he could punish them when they broke His commands?" he asked. "Or do we believe that everything commanded by the Lord is not only just, but for our own good as well?"

Rivas noted that, genetically, some animals are remarkably adept at passing on deadly diseases to humans.

Research into past pandemics shows the following animals, along with mosquitoes and fleas, have been responsible for pandemics:

Pigs (Spanish Flu, Asian Flu, Swine Flu)
Bats and certain other avian creatures (SARS, MERS, and Covid-19)
Pangolins (possibly Covid-19)
Chimpanzees (HIV/AIDS)
Rats (Black Death, Great Plague of London, Third Plague)
Camels (MERS)
Dogs (Hong Kong Flu, Asian Flu)
Civet Cats [mongoose-like creatures] (SARS)
Those animals are on the list God gave to Moses of animals forbidden for the Jewish people.

"If a fortune-teller or magician could somehow 'divine' the next few thousand years of disease, they couldn’t have made a better list of animals not to eat," Rives said.

Arguing the mention of clean and unclean animals was not exclusive to the Jews, he pointed out it goes back to the time of Noah.

"Noah clearly knew the difference between clean and unclean, since God Himself caused only two of each unclean kind to enter the ark, but called seven pairs of each clean animal."

The early Christian church also followed the Lord’s commands regarding unclean animals, Rives said. Peter's vision of unclean animals didn't rescind the instruction not to eat unclean food, Rives argued. The point was that no man should be called unclean.

Rives said that, conservatively, an estimated 280 million lives have been lost to pandemics originating with unclean animals.

"Is it possible that we've been ignoring the practicality and divine instructions regarding health practices? Instructions which prohibit the eating of bats as food, and encourage washing our hands under running water, and practicing distancing and isolation from people who have diseases?"

Rives said he's not judging anyone regarding their eating preferences.

"I have merely stated scientific facts that confirm what the Bible teaches," he said. "What I am suggesting is that, once again, the Bible knows best.

https://www.wnd.com/2020/04/biblically-unclean-animals-responsible-pandemics/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=wnd-breaking&utm_campaign=breaking&utm_content=breaking
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You mean, republicans and democrats? Yep, I agree.

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Apr 15, 2020 01:39:37   #
JW
 
dtucker300 wrote:
I do like my lobster tails, crab legs, and shrimp, but I don't eat them very often, and most are loaded with cholesterol.


I do like those things as well but you do need to be careful eating them. Improperly refrigerated and they become lethal.

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Apr 15, 2020 01:46:10   #
JW
 
archie bunker wrote:
I love my pig meat.... we couldn't have bacon without them!


Pork is a major source of trichinosis, a kind of roundworm. Properly cooked, you will never know you ate one along with your bacon.

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Apr 15, 2020 06:59:17   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
archie bunker wrote:
Every creature on this planet serves a purpose. Except for humans. Many of them have no purpose, reason, or excuse for being here.


Nice serve... That one was an ace

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Apr 15, 2020 11:10:15   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
JW wrote:
Pork is a major source of trichinosis, a kind of roundworm. Properly cooked, you will never know you ate one along with your bacon.


Pork & Trichinosis - Ask The Meatman
Most recent cases are among Asian immigrants (trichinosis is almost unknown in Asia - so eating rare or even raw pork is of no concern) and many other cases are from wild game (as the cougar jerky). * Trichinosis is not common in the US anymore, mostly due to changes in the methods of feeding of pigs over the last 30 years.
http://askthemeatman.com/pork_Trichinosis.htm

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Apr 15, 2020 11:33:15   #
bahmer
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Many species have a purpose that doesn't include eating them. Bats control many night time insects by eating them. Dogs are great companions, protectors of the family and the families livestock but do carry many parasites that are serious threats to human wellness. I honestly have no idea what pangolins are good for but I think that eating ants, particularly fire ants may be one of their uses. But then, humans even eat their own kind, as well as having sex with other species (which is thought to be a major way many diseases, possibly even AIDS became a human problem. The more we disobey God's laws the more we destroy all of Gods creations.
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Amen and Amen

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Apr 15, 2020 12:39:23   #
saltwind78
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:
Biblically unclean animals responsible for pandemics

Is it possible we've been ignoring the practicality and divine instructions?'

Nearly every influenza pandemic for the last 1,000 years would have been prevented if the Bible's prohibition against "unclean" animals had been headed, argues Bible teacher David Rives.

The host of TBN’s "Creation in the 21st Century" and the author of "Bible Knows Best," Rives noted that the majority of such animals are scavengers that are prone to passing on diseases to humans.

Among them are bats, which are believed to have been the transmitter of the coronavirus to humans in Wuhan, China.

"Do you find it even slightly curious that this pandemic — responsible for countless tens of thousands of deaths around the world — originated from what appears to be the consumption of BATS in China?"

Such animals are "here for good reasons," Rivas said, such as cleaning the environment.

But eating them is not one of those reasons.

"Was God simply placing oppressive rules upon His people so that he could punish them when they broke His commands?" he asked. "Or do we believe that everything commanded by the Lord is not only just, but for our own good as well?"

Rivas noted that, genetically, some animals are remarkably adept at passing on deadly diseases to humans.

Research into past pandemics shows the following animals, along with mosquitoes and fleas, have been responsible for pandemics:

Pigs (Spanish Flu, Asian Flu, Swine Flu)
Bats and certain other avian creatures (SARS, MERS, and Covid-19)
Pangolins (possibly Covid-19)
Chimpanzees (HIV/AIDS)
Rats (Black Death, Great Plague of London, Third Plague)
Camels (MERS)
Dogs (Hong Kong Flu, Asian Flu)
Civet Cats [mongoose-like creatures] (SARS)
Those animals are on the list God gave to Moses of animals forbidden for the Jewish people.

"If a fortune-teller or magician could somehow 'divine' the next few thousand years of disease, they couldn’t have made a better list of animals not to eat," Rives said.

Arguing the mention of clean and unclean animals was not exclusive to the Jews, he pointed out it goes back to the time of Noah.

"Noah clearly knew the difference between clean and unclean, since God Himself caused only two of each unclean kind to enter the ark, but called seven pairs of each clean animal."

The early Christian church also followed the Lord’s commands regarding unclean animals, Rives said. Peter's vision of unclean animals didn't rescind the instruction not to eat unclean food, Rives argued. The point was that no man should be called unclean.

Rives said that, conservatively, an estimated 280 million lives have been lost to pandemics originating with unclean animals.

"Is it possible that we've been ignoring the practicality and divine instructions regarding health practices? Instructions which prohibit the eating of bats as food, and encourage washing our hands under running water, and practicing distancing and isolation from people who have diseases?"

Rives said he's not judging anyone regarding their eating preferences.

"I have merely stated scientific facts that confirm what the Bible teaches," he said. "What I am suggesting is that, once again, the Bible knows best.

https://www.wnd.com/2020/04/biblically-unclean-animals-responsible-pandemics/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=wnd-breaking&utm_campaign=breaking&utm_content=breaking
Biblically unclean animals responsible for pandemi... (show quote)


The only animals that the Bible says are okay to eat are those that have cloved hoofs and chew cud. Fish must have a backbone and scales. Very few people, including Jews obey this commandment.

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Apr 15, 2020 12:44:44   #
saltwind78
 
iFrank wrote:
Also ducks, geese, carp, catfish, badgers, vultures, is what I remember. They are some more but without reading and refreshing my memory I can't remember. But your right GOD said these clean the earth so disease will not be on the ground and maybe getting into the waters.


Ducks, and carp are okay. According to Jewish law, only domesticated ducks that are ritually slaughtered are okay. Carp have a backbone and scales and are okay. I think locusts are not forbidden, but I'm not sure. The Rabbis have gone above and beyond what is in the Bible. Trigger fish for example have both a backbone and scales but the wrong kind of scales.

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Apr 15, 2020 12:51:20   #
bahmer
 
saltwind78 wrote:
Ducks, and carp are okay. According to Jewish law, only domesticated ducks that are ritually slaughtered are okay. Carp have a backbone and scales and are okay. I think locusts are not forbidden, but I'm not sure. The Rabbis have gone above and beyond what is in the Bible. Trigger fish for example have both a backbone and scales but the wrong kind of scales.


I still like Chesapeake Bay Blue Crabs and Lobster as well as other ocean dwelling crabs such as snow crab. I have never cared for bullheads or catfish either one. I love walleye, trout, crappie, bass and other fresh water fish as well as some salt water fish as well.

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Apr 15, 2020 18:15:38   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
bahmer wrote:
I still like Chesapeake Bay Blue Crabs and Lobster as well as other ocean dwelling crabs such as snow crab. I have never cared for bullheads or catfish either one. I love walleye, trout, crappie, bass and other fresh water fish as well as some salt water fish as well.


I like all of the above myself. Fried catfish is good stuff!

My wife likes raw oysters. I think she's a freak!
You can't put enough horseradish, Tabasco, or anything else to change the flavor of a booger.

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Apr 16, 2020 00:11:53   #
JW
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:
Pork & Trichinosis - Ask The Meatman
Most recent cases are among Asian immigrants (trichinosis is almost unknown in Asia - so eating rare or even raw pork is of no concern) and many other cases are from wild game (as the cougar jerky). * Trichinosis is not common in the US anymore, mostly due to changes in the methods of feeding of pigs over the last 30 years.
http://askthemeatman.com/pork_Trichinosis.htm


True, but even if infected, proper cooking kills the problem.

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Apr 16, 2020 08:42:35   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Redangel62 wrote:
That's excatly what they do. Keep the ant colonies down to manageable numbers.


Thank you. That's what I thought but decided to qualify it in case I was wrong. The left comes out against what I say enough without presenting them with a valid reason to do so.

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Apr 16, 2020 08:48:45   #
Rose42
 
saltwind78 wrote:
The only animals that the Bible says are okay to eat are those that have cloved hoofs and chew cud. Fish must have a backbone and scales. Very few people, including Jews obey this commandment.


Thats OT and was superceded by the NT. We can eat any animal.

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