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Apr 12, 2020 09:29:21   #
dougolfw
 
Clear and precise discussion ranger7374

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Apr 12, 2020 11:59:39   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
I do have a question for you, do you understand that the power of the Federal Government is limited? You do understand that really and truly in this nation, locally, the power resides there? Therefore, the state of the nation is usually in the hands of the Governors. If it is true that the power of the government resides in the Governors, then what could Trump do?

Now before you go crazy and tell me how crazy I am, realize this, if a Senator or a Representative dies, who appoints the replacements? In most states it is the Governor. Now it would be wise for the President to negotiate with the governors. The process to make an amendment to the Constitution does not reside with congress, but with the Governors.

With all of this being said, don't blame Bush, Obama, or Trump for not acting quick enough on domestic issues when these issues are controlled by the governors of the States. We live in a nation where the driving force of the government comes from the local level. So when someone tells me that "Trump lied about.....", I call that person a fool. He is a fool not because 'Trump allegedly lied' but because the lie was manufactured by Trump's enemies.

The very fine people, Trump has chosen to surround himself, were considered Experts in their perspective fields. Now, if they are experts, wouldn't you want to hear them? Even Experts, which is what is being proven, can be wrong. However, you being of sound mind, would reasonably want to hear from them. That is what Trump did and made his decisions accordingly. However, there are those who support Trump that get attacked by the political, media machine, because the political media machine still believes, "birds of a feather, flock together." Yet, in this day and age, hatred for Trump, is like a glass of fine wine, when you taste it, it seems good. So you keep drinking until the bottle is gone. The next morning, you then say to yourself, "My God, what have I done. Ouch this headache is worse!"

The democratic political media machine has been forcing the wine of untruth upon the people, that some people are wising up and are just saying no. On the other hand, there are those who are like sheep and act like Kevin Bacon, in Animal House, "Yes, sir may I have another."

There are those who are sheep, and those who are simply fed up with both sides. Therefore, to answer your question, reasonably and with a sober mind, I really don't think Trump has lied at all. I think that the lie, is the attack on Trump because over and over again he was proven right. This is just an observation. That's my opinion
I do have a question for you, do you understand th... (show quote)




Oh what a start to the day...

Those "fine" people you dwell on were the biggest contributors to the trump election fund and those who rendered the sloppiest flattering remarks to the orange child..

Lies!!??? You think when the legitimate media reports what trump say and does on tape they are lying???

Strange world you live in..

do you live and die by the reporting of the alt-news which has publicly stated the mission is to further the right wing POV/



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Apr 12, 2020 12:21:24   #
dougolfw
 
Dear permafrost. I am surprised that you are duped by today's ease of manipulation of audio and visual media. Cuomo just recently spliced two pieces of tape from a workforce briefing that made it look like said something that the realtime tape shows he did not. Today with all the digital capability that exists you should not believe all you hear or see. Otherwise you might believe that King Kong really exists or that the Marvel heros and their adversaries can do amazing things. That the news media performs some of these tricks on you, the public, is of real concern. Trust but verify.

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Apr 12, 2020 12:59:17   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
dougolfw wrote:
Dear permafrost. I am surprised that you are duped by today's ease of manipulation of audio and visual media. Cuomo just recently spliced two pieces of tape from a workforce briefing that made it look like said something that the realtime tape shows he did not. Today with all the digital capability that exists you should not believe all you hear or see. Otherwise you might believe that King Kong really exists or that the Marvel heros and their adversaries can do amazing things. That the news media performs some of these tricks on you, the public, is of real concern. Trust but verify.
Dear permafrost. I am surprised that you are duped... (show quote)


doug, with the long history of manipulation of all things media by the right wingers, IE the PP body parts vid..
I have discarded a great number of these things..much of Youtube promoted on OPP, I do not even bother to look at..

I have always agreed with you that trust but verify is the best policy for us all..



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Apr 12, 2020 17:50:36   #
P Lightfoot Loc: DEPLOYED ON STATION
 
Well said ranger I agree100%
SEMPER FI. U S M C

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Apr 13, 2020 02:37:11   #
Fallonirizarry
 
Well, name calling I'm sorry, is a sign of ignorance at its best, because you don't have the capacity to counter with factual and correct statements. With that being said, really there was nothing more the president could do. The reality was, the first Corona virus cases came in late November early December. I can't say this is a fact, but statistics say we had a very virulent flu season .in the statistics of flu cases, a large percentage of the reported flu cases didn't even test positive to the flu. I know in my town the flu was so bad if 1 more flu call out from school they were shutting it down. Also I had a severe upper respiratory infection that lasted weeks. I never had it or the flu in my life. It was aweful and many others had it as well. And with all the travel in and out of China, and they kept it secret for a couple months, ITS OBVIOUS it was already infesting in the United States. Otherwise how in the first week of testing could there be a positive case in every state. This is common sense people. So there was NOTHING. That President Trump could have done more. Hell he was called racist and ridiculed for shutting down flights to China. Until they come up with a vaccine, everyone is going to either catch it or isolate. The number of body bags it's going to take is entirety dependent on how soon we can get herd immunity. Which they are saying 60% of the population. So if it killed you today, even if you social distanced and caught it 6 months from now it would still kill you. The important thing was not to overrun the health system, guess what all the extra med hospitals trump put up and the ships sent, yeah.... ended up not needing them. The 40,000 respirators people screamed for... Nope didn't need them. All hospitals are stocked with necessary ppe. So what could he have done to reduce body bags.... Besides a miracle NOTHING, only the vaccine will stop the body bags. The depression that's will result if we don't open the country will cause more death and harm then letting this virus have it's way with us. God help us if we ever go to War, this pansy country I don't think will be able to handle the violence lol

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Apr 13, 2020 10:17:52   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Fallonirizarry wrote:
Well, name calling I'm sorry, is a sign of ignorance at its best, because you don't have the capacity to counter with factual and correct statements. With that being said, really there was nothing more the president could do. The reality was, the first Corona virus cases came in late November early December. I can't say this is a fact, but statistics say we had a very virulent flu season .in the statistics of flu cases, a large percentage of the reported flu cases didn't even test positive to the flu. I know in my town the flu was so bad if 1 more flu call out from school they were shutting it down. Also I had a severe upper respiratory infection that lasted weeks. I never had it or the flu in my life. It was aweful and many others had it as well. And with all the travel in and out of China, and they kept it secret for a couple months, ITS OBVIOUS it was already infesting in the United States. Otherwise how in the first week of testing could there be a positive case in every state. This is common sense people. So there was NOTHING. That President Trump could have done more. Hell he was called racist and ridiculed for shutting down flights to China. Until they come up with a vaccine, everyone is going to either catch it or isolate. The number of body bags it's going to take is entirety dependent on how soon we can get herd immunity. Which they are saying 60% of the population. So if it killed you today, even if you social distanced and caught it 6 months from now it would still kill you. The important thing was not to overrun the health system, guess what all the extra med hospitals trump put up and the ships sent, yeah.... ended up not needing them. The 40,000 respirators people screamed for... Nope didn't need them. All hospitals are stocked with necessary ppe. So what could he have done to reduce body bags.... Besides a miracle NOTHING, only the vaccine will stop the body bags. The depression that's will result if we don't open the country will cause more death and harm then letting this virus have it's way with us. God help us if we ever go to War, this pansy country I don't think will be able to handle the violence lol
Well, name calling I'm sorry, is a sign of ignoran... (show quote)


Interesting.

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Apr 13, 2020 12:14:49   #
JediKnight
 
padremike wrote:
The simple answer is "everything he could do and is doing." Here's a more pointed answer: there is nothing he can or could do about anything that will ever satisfy the blood lust and hatred Progressives hold for him.


So, in other words, you have nothing to show as far as "what Trump has done" positive for all of America, other than his hate for equality and fair play. sad.....and anticipated. As I said earlier, "you guys never actually answer a question....but are quick to offer useless rhetoric.

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Apr 13, 2020 12:15:32   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
JediKnight wrote:
Why don't you guys ever answer the simple and obvious question: in reality, just what has Trump done to seriously curb the effects of the virus?


No man can stop a virus, wake up. Can you do that?

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Apr 13, 2020 12:17:55   #
JediKnight
 
Fallonirizarry wrote:
Well, name calling I'm sorry, is a sign of ignorance at its best, because you don't have the capacity to counter with factual and correct statements. With that being said, really there was nothing more the president could do. The reality was, the first Corona virus cases came in late November early December. I can't say this is a fact, but statistics say we had a very virulent flu season .in the statistics of flu cases, a large percentage of the reported flu cases didn't even test positive to the flu. I know in my town the flu was so bad if 1 more flu call out from school they were shutting it down. Also I had a severe upper respiratory infection that lasted weeks. I never had it or the flu in my life. It was aweful and many others had it as well. And with all the travel in and out of China, and they kept it secret for a couple months, ITS OBVIOUS it was already infesting in the United States. Otherwise how in the first week of testing could there be a positive case in every state. This is common sense people. So there was NOTHING. That President Trump could have done more. Hell he was called racist and ridiculed for shutting down flights to China. Until they come up with a vaccine, everyone is going to either catch it or isolate. The number of body bags it's going to take is entirety dependent on how soon we can get herd immunity. Which they are saying 60% of the population. So if it killed you today, even if you social distanced and caught it 6 months from now it would still kill you. The important thing was not to overrun the health system, guess what all the extra med hospitals trump put up and the ships sent, yeah.... ended up not needing them. The 40,000 respirators people screamed for... Nope didn't need them. All hospitals are stocked with necessary ppe. So what could he have done to reduce body bags.... Besides a miracle NOTHING, only the vaccine will stop the body bags. The depression that's will result if we don't open the country will cause more death and harm then letting this virus have it's way with us. God help us if we ever go to War, this pansy country I don't think will be able to handle the violence lol
Well, name calling I'm sorry, is a sign of ignoran... (show quote)


Trump wasted valuable time calling the virus "the new democrat hoax" instead of following the advice of the CDC and the WHO...you know -the people who are experts in such matters. No, Trump, who probably can't even spell "science" without help took it upon himself to delay and lie while many died. A president more concerned with sucking up to big business and denying truth is really not a "president" at all. sad.

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Apr 13, 2020 12:18:53   #
JediKnight
 
MR Mister wrote:
No man can stop a virus, wake up. Can you do that?


Once again, you have no valid answer to the question. Turning the issue back to me is ridiculous....I am not the president.

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Apr 13, 2020 12:23:24   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
JediKnight wrote:
Once again, you have no valid answer to the question. Turning the issue back to me is ridiculous....I am not the president.


In other words, you are one who will not answer a simple question..

Let me answer for you. "I fear the truth because it shows my nakedness to the world"

J.Knight.

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Apr 13, 2020 12:29:07   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
JediKnight wrote:
Once again, you have no valid answer to the question. Turning the issue back to me is ridiculous....I am not the president.


Seems you can not understand my statement.
I can not make you understand the square root of 30.

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Apr 13, 2020 12:32:25   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
Fallonirizarry wrote:
Well, name calling I'm sorry, is a sign of ignorance at its best, because you don't have the capacity to counter with factual and correct statements. With that being said, really there was nothing more the president could do. The reality was, the first Corona virus cases came in late November early December. I can't say this is a fact, but statistics say we had a very virulent flu season .in the statistics of flu cases, a large percentage of the reported flu cases didn't even test positive to the flu. I know in my town the flu was so bad if 1 more flu call out from school they were shutting it down. Also I had a severe upper respiratory infection that lasted weeks. I never had it or the flu in my life. It was aweful and many others had it as well. And with all the travel in and out of China, and they kept it secret for a couple months, ITS OBVIOUS it was already infesting in the United States. Otherwise how in the first week of testing could there be a positive case in every state. This is common sense people. So there was NOTHING. That President Trump could have done more. Hell he was called racist and ridiculed for shutting down flights to China. Until they come up with a vaccine, everyone is going to either catch it or isolate. The number of body bags it's going to take is entirety dependent on how soon we can get herd immunity. Which they are saying 60% of the population. So if it killed you today, even if you social distanced and caught it 6 months from now it would still kill you. The important thing was not to overrun the health system, guess what all the extra med hospitals trump put up and the ships sent, yeah.... ended up not needing them. The 40,000 respirators people screamed for... Nope didn't need them. All hospitals are stocked with necessary ppe. So what could he have done to reduce body bags.... Besides a miracle NOTHING, only the vaccine will stop the body bags. The depression that's will result if we don't open the country will cause more death and harm then letting this virus have it's way with us. God help us if we ever go to War, this pansy country I don't think will be able to handle the violence lol
Well, name calling I'm sorry, is a sign of ignoran... (show quote)



Good job!
The left dip sh*ts will never understand it.

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Apr 13, 2020 13:26:41   #
JediKnight
 
byronglimish wrote:
In other words, you are one who will not answer a simple question..

Let me answer for you. "I fear the truth because it shows my nakedness to the world"

J.Knight.


Ask a sensible question Byron.....or quit projecting. period.

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