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Mar 31, 2020 08:57:44   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
byronglimish wrote:
They won't, but the proper paperwork will be necessary.


Sounds good...

By paperwork you mean a vote for a Trump, right?

Hmmm... Not being a citizen that will be tricky....

I mean, I could go to California.... But then I'd be in California

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Mar 31, 2020 09:11:34   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Sounds good...

By paperwork you mean a vote for a Trump, right?

Hmmm... Not being a citizen that will be tricky....

I mean, I could go to California.... But then I'd be in California


Don't go to Cali. The east side of Oregon is good.

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Mar 31, 2020 09:27:52   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
byronglimish wrote:
Don't go to Cali. The east side of Oregon is good.


I can chill with Coos bay Tom

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Mar 31, 2020 09:37:46   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I can chill with Coos bay Tom



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Mar 31, 2020 10:08:47   #
TrueAmerican
 
proud republican wrote:
With shortage of medical equipment for our 1st Redponders,should we continue helping foreign countries?


NO !!!!!!

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Mar 31, 2020 11:08:38   #
kemmer
 
proud republican wrote:
With shortage of medical equipment for our 1st Redponders,should we continue helping foreign countries?

The health editor of the NYT suggests the US ask China for the help of trained medical personnel who have worked with covid patients, have been infected, recovered, and are now immune, to assist in our hospitals. There are over 40,000 of them.

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Mar 31, 2020 11:13:04   #
kemmer
 
proud republican wrote:
You mean Judeo Christian? Remember the saying? "God helps those who help themselves" We should help our people before we help other countries,imho!

It'd be nice if we got some substantial help from our federal gov't. instead of Trump saying it is all in the state governors' and mayors' court. And those worthies had best be nice to Trump or they'll get nothing, or so Trump said.

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Mar 31, 2020 11:27:48   #
F.D.R.
 
proud republican wrote:
With shortage of medical equipment for our 1st Redponders,should we continue helping foreign countries?


I've thought about that for ages. Every country on the planet has a government responsible for their own country be it good or bad. If the people tolerate it then they deserve it. We should always think America first, when we have everything we need then we might share what's left over. When we have a disaster do Canada, Mexico, England or the EU rush aid to us?

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Mar 31, 2020 11:36:27   #
bahmer
 
proud republican wrote:
With shortage of medical equipment for our 1st Redponders,should we continue helping foreign countries?


Not until we get ourselves back up and healed.

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Mar 31, 2020 11:46:46   #
Radiance3
 
proud republican wrote:
With shortage of medical equipment for our 1st Redponders,should we continue helping foreign countries?

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NO!!. It's time to examine and set our priorities right. For decades the US has been financing the whole world on almost everything. Since 2001 alone, I found out that the US donate millions of dollars to all over countries for medical aids.
As mentioned by Tucker yesterday, we have been building medical centers and hospitals in Afghanistan that never materialized. The money went to the corrupt Afghan leaders. We also built pharmaceutical outlets, but never was completed. In fact, it never existed after hundreds of millions of US dollars were provided.

US already contributed average of $1 billion annually, to WHO. Why did we still provide those other countries hundreds of millions of dollars? But nothing happened but corrupted by their leaders. Examples of this was Afghanistan.

Effective 2021, we have reduce out funding to WHO. And then the UN. We could not afford it anymore. We must put priorities to taking care of our own people.

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Mar 31, 2020 11:49:07   #
bahmer
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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NO!!. It's time to examine and set our priorities right. For decades the US has been financing the whole world on almost everything. Since 2001 alone, I found out that the US donate millions of dollars to all over countries for medical aids.
As mentioned by Tucker yesterday, we have been building medical centers and hospitals in Afghanistan that never materialized. The money went to the corrupt Afghan leaders. We also built pharmaceutical outlets, but never was completed. In fact, it never existed after hundreds of millions of US dollars were provided.

US already contributed average of $1 billion annually, to WHO. Why did we still provide those other countries hundreds of millions of dollars? But nothing happened but corrupted by their leaders. Examples of this was Afghanistan.

Effective 2021, we have reduce out funding to WHO. And then the UN. We could not afford it anymore. We must put priorities to taking care of our own people.
=============== br i NO!!. It's time to examine ... (show quote)


Amen and Amen

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Mar 31, 2020 11:51:00   #
rafterman Loc: South Florida
 
proud republican wrote:
With shortage of medical equipment for our 1st Redponders,should we continue helping foreign countries?


Foreign Aid has always been an interest of mine. I was especially interested because during my 20-year Navy career, I traveled to many country's - all of which received foreign aid. I also wrote a term paper in my junior year in college about Foreign Aid. Here are some facts - some will surprise you. Oh - and I'm in favor of foreign aid. While some of it is wasted - you have to be stupid not to believe that - overall it's put to good use. Some countries would not be able to survive without it.

What is the percentage the U.S. provides for foreign aid?
Less than 1 percent of the US federal budget goes towards foreign aid.

Who does the US give foreign aid to?
More than two hundred countries receive U.S. aid. It disproportionately goes to a few, however, with the top five all receiving over $1 billion per year as of 2016: Iraq ($5.3 billion), Afghanistan ($5.1 billion), Israel ($3.1 billion), Egypt ($1.2 billion), and Jordan ($1.2 billion).

How much foreign aid did the US give in 2019?
In fact, at $39.2 billion for fiscal year 2019, foreign assistance is less than 1 percent of the federal budget.

A google search of “what is the percentage the U.S. provides for foreign aid” returns 191million hits at https://tinyurl.com/Foreign-Aid, so foreign aid is an extremely hot topic.

Brooking Institute lists 8 myths about foreign aid. Details of each myth are discussed at the following link: https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/what-every-american-should-know-about-u-s-foreign-aid/
• Myth #1: America spends too much on foreign aid
• Myth #2: Others don’t do their fair share
• Myth #3: U.S. foreign aid is mainly backed by Democrats
• Myth #4: Foreign aid goes to corrupt, wasteful governments
• Myth #5: Foreign aid goes to autocratic governments
• Myth #6: Foreign aid is wasted, inefficient, and produces no concrete results
• Myth #7: Foreign aid is for the benefit of foreigners and not aligned with U.S. interests
• Myth #8: Foreign aid is unpopular

There are also links to the following topics that are quite interesting.
US foreign aid is worth defending now more than ever
Once more into the breach: Does foreign aid work?
Who actually funds the UN and other multilateral?

Here's an article by Alan W. Dowd, who is a senior fellow with the Sagamore Institute Center for America’s Purpose, that provides some good information about foreign aid. It is titled "In defense of foreign aid" and can be found https://www.legion.org/magazine/247062/defense-foreign-aid

President Trump cut foreign aid as It was a key component of his first budget with the State Department and US Agency for International Development budget cut by almost 30 per cent. See https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-21/here-are-the-countries-that-get-the-most-foreign-aid-from-the-us/9278164

The document, dubbed America First, A Budget Blueprint to Make America Great Again, said it would include "deep cuts to foreign aid".
"It is time to prioritize the security and well being of Americans, and to ask the rest of the world to step up and pay its fair share," the statement read.
He reiterated this rhetoric in a Washington Post interview.
"But you look at some of our inner cities," Mr Trump said.
"And yet you know I watched as we built schools in Iraq and they'd be blown up.
"And we'd build another one and it would get blown up … And yet we can't build a school in Brooklyn.
"We have no money for education, because we can't build in our own country.

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Mar 31, 2020 11:55:28   #
American Vet
 
rafterman wrote:
Foreign Aid has always been an interest of mine. I was especially interested because during my 20-year Navy career, I traveled to many country's - all of which received foreign aid. I also wrote a term paper in my junior year in college about Foreign Aid. Here are some facts - some will surprise you. Oh - and I'm in favor of foreign aid. While some of it is wasted - you have to be stupid not to believe that - overall it's put to good use. Some countries would not be able to survive without it.

What is the percentage the U.S. provides for foreign aid?
Less than 1 percent of the US federal budget goes towards foreign aid.

Who does the US give foreign aid to?
More than two hundred countries receive U.S. aid. It disproportionately goes to a few, however, with the top five all receiving over $1 billion per year as of 2016: Iraq ($5.3 billion), Afghanistan ($5.1 billion), Israel ($3.1 billion), Egypt ($1.2 billion), and Jordan ($1.2 billion).

How much foreign aid did the US give in 2019?
In fact, at $39.2 billion for fiscal year 2019, foreign assistance is less than 1 percent of the federal budget.

A google search of “what is the percentage the U.S. provides for foreign aid” returns 191million hits at https://tinyurl.com/Foreign-Aid, so foreign aid is an extremely hot topic.

Brooking Institute lists 8 myths about foreign aid. Details of each myth are discussed at the following link: https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/what-every-american-should-know-about-u-s-foreign-aid/
• Myth #1: America spends too much on foreign aid
• Myth #2: Others don’t do their fair share
• Myth #3: U.S. foreign aid is mainly backed by Democrats
• Myth #4: Foreign aid goes to corrupt, wasteful governments
• Myth #5: Foreign aid goes to autocratic governments
• Myth #6: Foreign aid is wasted, inefficient, and produces no concrete results
• Myth #7: Foreign aid is for the benefit of foreigners and not aligned with U.S. interests
• Myth #8: Foreign aid is unpopular

There are also links to the following topics that are quite interesting.
US foreign aid is worth defending now more than ever
Once more into the breach: Does foreign aid work?
Who actually funds the UN and other multilateral?

Here's an article by Alan W. Dowd, who is a senior fellow with the Sagamore Institute Center for America’s Purpose, that provides some good information about foreign aid. It is titled "In defense of foreign aid" and can be found https://www.legion.org/magazine/247062/defense-foreign-aid

President Trump cut foreign aid as It was a key component of his first budget with the State Department and US Agency for International Development budget cut by almost 30 per cent. See https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-21/here-are-the-countries-that-get-the-most-foreign-aid-from-the-us/9278164

The document, dubbed America First, A Budget Blueprint to Make America Great Again, said it would include "deep cuts to foreign aid".
"It is time to prioritize the security and well being of Americans, and to ask the rest of the world to step up and pay its fair share," the statement read.
He reiterated this rhetoric in a Washington Post interview.
"But you look at some of our inner cities," Mr Trump said.
"And yet you know I watched as we built schools in Iraq and they'd be blown up.
"And we'd build another one and it would get blown up … And yet we can't build a school in Brooklyn.
"We have no money for education, because we can't build in our own country.
Foreign Aid has always been an interest of mine. ... (show quote)


2 comments:

Myth #1: America spends too much on foreign aid
Not a myth: Anything spent on foreign aid (especially right now) is too much.

You stated "While some of it is wasted - you have to be stupid not to believe that - overall it's put to good use."
Please produce good data on this.

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Mar 31, 2020 12:12:26   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
American Vet wrote:
2 comments:

Myth #1: America spends too much on foreign aid
Not a myth: Anything spent on foreign aid (especially right now) is too much.

You stated "While some of it is wasted - you have to be stupid not to believe that - overall it's put to good use."
Please produce good data on this.



Ditto.

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Mar 31, 2020 12:22:15   #
Sicilianthing
 
rafterman wrote:
Foreign Aid has always been an interest of mine. I was especially interested because during my 20-year Navy career, I traveled to many country's - all of which received foreign aid. I also wrote a term paper in my junior year in college about Foreign Aid. Here are some facts - some will surprise you. Oh - and I'm in favor of foreign aid. While some of it is wasted - you have to be stupid not to believe that - overall it's put to good use. Some countries would not be able to survive without it.

What is the percentage the U.S. provides for foreign aid?
Less than 1 percent of the US federal budget goes towards foreign aid.

Who does the US give foreign aid to?
More than two hundred countries receive U.S. aid. It disproportionately goes to a few, however, with the top five all receiving over $1 billion per year as of 2016: Iraq ($5.3 billion), Afghanistan ($5.1 billion), Israel ($3.1 billion), Egypt ($1.2 billion), and Jordan ($1.2 billion).

How much foreign aid did the US give in 2019?
In fact, at $39.2 billion for fiscal year 2019, foreign assistance is less than 1 percent of the federal budget.

A google search of “what is the percentage the U.S. provides for foreign aid” returns 191million hits at https://tinyurl.com/Foreign-Aid, so foreign aid is an extremely hot topic.

Brooking Institute lists 8 myths about foreign aid. Details of each myth are discussed at the following link: https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/what-every-american-should-know-about-u-s-foreign-aid/
• Myth #1: America spends too much on foreign aid
• Myth #2: Others don’t do their fair share
• Myth #3: U.S. foreign aid is mainly backed by Democrats
• Myth #4: Foreign aid goes to corrupt, wasteful governments
• Myth #5: Foreign aid goes to autocratic governments
• Myth #6: Foreign aid is wasted, inefficient, and produces no concrete results
• Myth #7: Foreign aid is for the benefit of foreigners and not aligned with U.S. interests
• Myth #8: Foreign aid is unpopular

There are also links to the following topics that are quite interesting.
US foreign aid is worth defending now more than ever
Once more into the breach: Does foreign aid work?
Who actually funds the UN and other multilateral?

Here's an article by Alan W. Dowd, who is a senior fellow with the Sagamore Institute Center for America’s Purpose, that provides some good information about foreign aid. It is titled "In defense of foreign aid" and can be found https://www.legion.org/magazine/247062/defense-foreign-aid

President Trump cut foreign aid as It was a key component of his first budget with the State Department and US Agency for International Development budget cut by almost 30 per cent. See https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-21/here-are-the-countries-that-get-the-most-foreign-aid-from-the-us/9278164

The document, dubbed America First, A Budget Blueprint to Make America Great Again, said it would include "deep cuts to foreign aid".
"It is time to prioritize the security and well being of Americans, and to ask the rest of the world to step up and pay its fair share," the statement read.
He reiterated this rhetoric in a Washington Post interview.
"But you look at some of our inner cities," Mr Trump said.
"And yet you know I watched as we built schools in Iraq and they'd be blown up.
"And we'd build another one and it would get blown up … And yet we can't build a school in Brooklyn.
"We have no money for education, because we can't build in our own country.
Foreign Aid has always been an interest of mine. ... (show quote)


>>>

Whattabuncha CRAP !

What did the founders say countless times about Foreign Entanglements ?

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