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Mar 29, 2020 11:50:41   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
PeterS wrote:
No one has brought evidence that Trump is bad? You mean none that a Republican Senate was willing to look at. And that it wasn't from lack of trying but purely from a Senate that was in complete denial and flat out refused to examine it.


Accusations against Trump, by the bushel; evidence of unlawful or improper conduct, ... nada, zip, zero, nothing!

Never should have been a bulls*it political lynching by the house of reps to start with, and the Senate should have done the same thing with the impeachment papers as Pelosi did with her copy of Trump's speech. Pelosi and house democrats are a bunch of clowns.

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Mar 29, 2020 12:10:11   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
PeterS wrote:
Pretty much says all that there is to say...such a shame for the nation, you know!


Have you looked in the mirror lately? Bad man stares right back at you!

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Mar 29, 2020 12:13:45   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
PeterS wrote:
No one has brought evidence that Trump is bad? You mean none that a Republican Senate was willing to look at. And that it wasn't from lack of trying but purely from a Senate that was in complete denial and flat out refused to examine it.


I believe you have that backwards, Pete. The House was after Trump like a pit bull on a pork chop and proved nothing. Nada. In the mean time they completely ignored what was going on with the Democrats. See how that works, Oh blind one!

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Mar 29, 2020 22:00:45   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Pennylynn wrote:
good people do defend people others consider bad. Eighteen people have been proven innocent in the United States after serving time on death row. They were convicted in 11 states and served a combined 229 years in prison – including 202 years on death row – for crimes they didn’t commit.

As yet, no one has brought evidence that our President is bad, only their opinions.


Have you been hiding in isolation for the past three years? Do good people lie with every other word that comes out of their mouth. Do good people treat women and children like our current president has done along our southern border, or prior to his presidency. Do good people buy off the adult film star they are having an affair with so the information is suppressed prior to an election? Do good people think racism is OK and support white nationalists. Honestly if you truly believe this it proves to me that you are just like Trump and you sure ain't a good person either. Or perhaps you never were able to understand the difference between good and bad.

There has been literally a ton of hard evidence as seen in the Mueller Report, call transcripts, all the issues surrounding literally volumes of ethics laws, regulations and policies that Trump has just ignored, and the impeachment trail and through many other venues over the past few years. What is astonishing is that so many have refused to even read or research any of this themselves, instead they listen to lies of Trump and all around him who have the authority to rein him in when he goes off course (Senate) but are too cowardly to act. Every one of them knows that he is unethical and breaks the laws of our country on a regular and recurring basis. He is by far the biggest crook of a president we have ever seen in our nation's history. But all the GOP members of the senate and house that had the backbone to do the right thing like McCain are gone. Only Romney has shown himself to be a good person in this regard. So tell me, if I am a crook, but I own the police, oversee the justice department and own the lawyers, control everything so I can stop anyone trying to provide evidence, truth and the facts regarding a case that is against me, and the Judge (the Senate) is too scared of re-election to do their sworn duty and uphold the law, just how in the world does that make me a good man. Tell me just how that jives with your own personal perspective on truth, justice and "The American Way", and what the difference is between a good and a bad person. I don't see an ounce of good in any of that!

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Mar 29, 2020 22:10:25   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Trooper745 wrote:
Accusations against Trump, by the bushel; evidence of unlawful or improper conduct, ... nada, zip, zero, nothing!

Never should have been a bulls*it political lynching by the house of reps to start with, and the Senate should have done the same thing with the impeachment papers as Pelosi did with her copy of Trump's speech. Pelosi and house democrats are a bunch of clowns.


Senate is a bunch of damned cowards too worried about re-election than doing their sworn duty to uphold the laws of the country. And there were 17 witnesses that testified in the house, and many of them were life long republicans, so the only BS here is that people like you don't have the brains to see what is happening around you. So tell me, if your daughter were murdered but the murderer had the authority to stop anyone from testifying at their trial. Just how good would you feel about that? And what has any of that done to help you or to make our country stronger. NOT A DAMN THING. He is the great divider in chief because that is the only way he can try to stay in power, by fooling the foolish! He wants total control, and he is willing to trash our entire country to get his way. And people like you are promoting that. So let me ask any of you out there just one question: When Trumpy dies some day in the future and he gets to the pearly gates of heaven, do any of you think that St Peter will let him in???????????????

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Mar 29, 2020 22:12:44   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
Pretty much says all that there is to say...such a shame for the nation, you know!
It all depends on whether the man you are defending is just a bad man or whether he's a prog kicking BAD ASS. I'd wager the twit that wrote that meme probably ain't even a man.

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Mar 29, 2020 22:21:29   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
It all depends on whether the man you are defending is just a bad man or whether he's a prog kicking BAD ASS. I'd wager the twit that wrote that meme probably ain't even a man.


It may be harder to be a bad ass and a good man than to be a bad ass and a bad man, but I'll take the bad ass dude with the white hat any day! I'll also take a bad ass good woman over a bad ass bad one any day. And I'll wager anything you got that you ain't as much of a man as you think!

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Mar 29, 2020 22:31:06   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Have you been hiding in isolation for the past three years? Do good people lie with every other word that comes out of their mouth. Do good people treat women and children like our current president has done along our southern border, or prior to his presidency. Do good people buy off the adult film star they are having an affair with so the information is suppressed prior to an election? Do good people think racism is OK and support white nationalists. Honestly if you truly believe this it proves to me that you are just like Trump and you sure ain't a good person either. Or perhaps you never were able to understand the difference between good and bad.

There has been literally a ton of hard evidence as seen in the Mueller Report, call transcripts, all the issues surrounding literally volumes of ethics laws, regulations and policies that Trump has just ignored, and the impeachment trail and through many other venues over the past few years. What is astonishing is that so many have refused to even read or research any of this themselves, instead they listen to lies of Trump and all around him who have the authority to rein him in when he goes off course (Senate) but are too cowardly to act. Every one of them knows that he is unethical and breaks the laws of our country on a regular and recurring basis. He is by far the biggest crook of a president we have ever seen in our nation's history. But all the GOP members of the senate and house that had the backbone to do the right thing like McCain are gone. Only Romney has shown himself to be a good person in this regard. So tell me, if I am a crook, but I own the police, oversee the justice department and own the lawyers, control everything so I can stop anyone trying to provide evidence, truth and the facts regarding a case that is against me, and the Judge (the Senate) is too scared of re-election to do their sworn duty and uphold the law, just how in the world does that make me a good man. Tell me just how that jives with your own personal perspective on truth, justice and "The American Way", and what the difference is between a good and a bad person. I don't see an ounce of good in any of that!
Have you been hiding in isolation for the past thr... (show quote)


Unlike most, I read full transcripts or watch full videos.....so, no I have not hid from the truth or take the word of the media what is said. You may want to try it.

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Mar 29, 2020 22:35:55   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Unlike most, I read full transcripts or watch full videos.....so, no I have not hid from the truth or take the word of the media what is said. You may want to try it.


Sorry, way ahead of you there, perhaps its an issue with comprehension and understanding then?

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Mar 29, 2020 22:48:06   #
Rose42
 
PeterS wrote:
Pretty much says all that there is to say...such a shame for the nation, you know!


You have made so many dishonest posts about Christianity, pick the nuts and pretend they represent all, but you latch onto Pavlovitz who is a cafeteria Christian and a nut.

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Mar 29, 2020 22:56:55   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
It may be harder to be a bad ass and a good man than to be a bad ass and a bad man, but I'll take the bad ass dude with the white hat any day! I'll also take a bad ass good woman over a bad ass bad one any day. And I'll wager anything you got that you ain't as much of a man as you think!
And, you? Are you as much of a man as you think you are?

Are you a good bad ass or a bad one? Or, are you just an arrogant asshole?

BTW: the hat I wore during my firefighting career was black. Only the chiefs had white ones.



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Mar 29, 2020 22:58:54   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
So let me ask any of you out there just one question: When Trumpy dies some day in the future and he gets to the pearly gates of heaven, do any of you think that St Peter will let him in???????????????


You do not have the right to judge. Donald Trump might arrive at the pearly gates, and be treated as a most beloved brother. He won't be judged by some warped political hater like you, and you certainly have no idea of what Donald Trump's status with Almighty God and Lord Jesus Christ is even today, much less at his death.

Stop judging others, and get yourself right with Lord Jesus.

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Mar 29, 2020 23:39:55   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Sorry, way ahead of you there, perhaps its an issue with comprehension and understanding then?


If you say so.

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Mar 30, 2020 00:17:09   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
And, you? Are you as much of a man as you think you are?

Are you a good bad ass or a bad one? Or, are you just an arrogant asshole?

BTW: the hat I wore during my firefighting career was black. Only the chiefs had white ones.


Hah who knows Bladerunner maybe I am all of the above. And I spent many many years as a ground pounder working my way up from a lowly GS-3 to lead the wildland fire program for one of our land management agencies as a GS-15 and running both the NWCG and NMAC for several years (as a firefighter I'm thinking you know what NMAC and NMCG are). So I covered most of the bases in my career. Thus unfortunately I understand this emergency management stuff as should you. I was around for H1N1 preparedness and understood what might need to be done and when. Efforts this time around are pathetic compared to then. I brought the first 20 person chainsaw crew into Everglades National Park during Hurricane Andrew and spent considerable time at Katrina. That included having my folks work a morgue unit for bodies coming out of NO. I led a contingent of US firefighters to Australia in 2009 during their wildfire season that year which was the worst in history until this year. So I've been around the block. Now I'm old and retired and it just kills me to see the total ineptitude of this administration in the face of the largest crises we have witnessed in most of our lives in this country. Unfortunately that can make me even more of an asshole. My apologies if that's the case and thanks for your service. What part of the country did you serve?

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Mar 30, 2020 00:22:53   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Trooper745 wrote:
You do not have the right to judge. Donald Trump might arrive at the pearly gates, and be treated as a most beloved brother. He won't be judged by some warped political hater like you, and you certainly have no idea of what Donald Trump's status with Almighty God and Lord Jesus Christ is even today, much less at his death.

Stop judging others, and get yourself right with Lord Jesus.


Sorry I was not judging Trump and Heaven, and I obviously have zero say in the matter, simply asked a question that all people who believe in a god of whatever nature should ask themselves and wondering what kind of interesting response it might bright up. I think it is a question we should all be asking ourselves. What redeeming qualities do you think Trump has that would allow him into heaven, and which ones do you feel might keep him out. What an interesting list that might create, HUH! Feel free to start if you would like!

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