The check's in the mail (Page 2): I also thought about paying for some folks' groceries - I love those stories when I read them...maybe I can help a bit there, too.

EmilyD

Voice of Reason wrote:

For all of us who don't NEED the money (myself included), here's an idea. Next time you're in the grocery store, how about tipping all those workers risking their lives to feed you? That's what I'll be doing.

I also thought about paying for some folks' groceries - I love those stories when I read them...maybe I can help a bit there, too.

Voice of Reason Loc: Earth

EmilyD wrote:

I also thought about paying for some folks' groceries - I love those stories when I read them...maybe I can help a bit there, too.

I live across the street from a distribution site for 'food for the poor'. All day every day I see people showing up for free food, in their $60-80K vehicles. I'll give my charity to those who work for low pay risking their lives to feed me.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Voice of Reason wrote:

The house just passed the stimulus bill and President Trump will be signing it, meaning soon the individual checks will begin being sent. My question is, will these payments be taxable?

No, it isn't taxable.

Voice of Reason Loc: Earth

lpnmajor wrote:

No, it isn't taxable.

Not that I don't believe you, but would you please provide a reference for that? Thanks.

Gatsby

Voice of Reason wrote:

I live across the street from a distribution site for 'food for the poor'. All day every day I see people showing up for free food, in their $60-80K vehicles. I'll give my charity to those who work for low pay risking their lives to feed me.

I often give disadvantaged individuals a ride to some of those food pantry's, because the can't afford a car.

So don't be so quick to condemn people for things that you fail to consider.

Another point to consider, how many of those vehicles to you think are PAID FOR?

Voice of Reason Loc: Earth

Gatsby wrote:

I often give disadvantaged individuals a ride to some of those food pantry's, because the can't afford a car.

So don't be so quick to condemn people for things that you fail to consider.

Another point to consider, how many of those vehicles to you think are PAID FOR?

I take both those points into account.

First, I'm only talking about those who drive the cars alone.

Second, this is the part that gets me. If those cars aren't paid for then they're making monthly payments well in excess of their means. They don't HAVE to drive a new expensive car, but they CHOOSE to. To you and other libs, that CHOICE to live beyond their means ENTITLES them to the necessities they can no longer afford, at the expense of those who CHOOSE not to be irresponsible.

Kinda like the kid who murdered his parents, then asked the judge for leniency due to the fact he's an orphan. Only worse.

grandaddy1946 Loc: Florida

Lonewolf wrote:

what about the old folks living on ss only and just can get by,can we get some help?

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Voice of Reason wrote:

I live across the street from a distribution site for 'food for the poor'. All day every day I see people showing up for free food, in their $60-80K vehicles. I'll give my charity to those who work for low pay risking their lives to feed me.

Damn Straight!

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Voice of Reason wrote:

I take both those points into account. br br Fir... (show quote)

That's how the government works. Every new budget cycle they complain there isn't enough money to pay for basic services like Police, Fire, School, Roads, and they always need new and more taxes. How about funding these first? Then, if anything is left over divvy it up to the remaining pipe dream programs and boondoggles. Or, better yet, return it to the people who actually pay the taxes that fund all the free-riders.

One of my jobs in high school was in a grocery market. I would watch people drive up to the store in a new Cadillac, buy filet mignon, and pay with food stamps. That was the beginning of my move away from liberalism to conservatism.

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

grandaddy1946 wrote:

what about the old folks living on ss only and just can get by,can we get some help?

Yes.

EmilyD

grandaddy1946 wrote:

what about the old folks living on ss only and just can get by,can we get some help?

I believe they are going to be getting checks. A lot of folks receiving SS don't file taxes because they are not required to (not enough taxable income).....but my advice to them is go ahead and file taxes for 2019 now, even if you're not required to. That way the IRS will have all the current information they need to verify that you qualify for the stimulus check. (i.e., your income, current home address, people who live in your home, etc.)

From what I've heard, every adult is going to receive stimulus checks. If your taxable income for a single person is over $75,000.00 per year, the amount you receive will be decreased accordingly. If you file jointly and your combined taxable income is over $125,000.00 same thing.

Example: If a couple who makes under $75,000.00 and has 3 kids, they will receive $3,900.00:

One adult: $1,200.00
Second adult: $1,200.00
3 Kids (at $500.00 each): $1,500.00
Total = $3,900.00

Voice of Reason Loc: Earth

EmilyD wrote:

I believe they are going to be getting checks. A l... (show quote)

If a person a SS recipient, they will receive the same stimulus as everybody else. The payment will be made via the same method as their current SS benefit payments. No need to file anything.

Voice of Reason Loc: Earth

dtucker300 wrote:

That's how the government works. Every new budget... (show quote)

I never worked at a grocery store, but seeing the same type thing got me started on my way from liberalism to libertarianism. Then Reagan got elected and I hated him, because the media said to. Then I saw the improvements his policies were making and I began reconsidering. Then the USSR collapsed and I saw the media had been dead wrong about him all along. By then I was pretty much libertarian, but still thought welfare, while not desirable, was needed.

Then I moved to a country somewhere between 2nd and 3rd world with no social safety net at all. I discovered that without government safety net handouts people still survived, and prospered, just fine. The major difference being that because these people had little, they had little tolerance for minor crimes, which kept the rate for all crimes low. When the young are punished for minor crimes they rethink becoming career criminals.

After returning the the states I was a full-fledged (small 'l') libertarian and remain so.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Voice of Reason wrote:

I never worked at a grocery store, but seeing the ... (show quote)

I watched Reagan as CA Gov. I couldn't vote until 1972 when I was 21 (while still overseas in the Army) because the vote for 18 yr-olds had not yet been approved. Reagan was mocked constantly by the new-age hippie SDS Free-speech college students at Berkeley, the Woodstock Generation, and everyone else from the Left. After Nixon resigned and Ford took over as President, I watched how The Democratic-controlled Congress worked, and by the time Jimmy Carter came along I was fed up with the Democratic party. I couldn't vote for Carter. As I remember, everyone I knew was an ABC Democrat (Anyone But Carter). I wasn't too crazy about Ford, but considering what the Labour party had done to England I thought we were heading in the same direction and Ford seemed like the only choice. By 1980, Reagan was a no-brainer vote.
I consider myself a Fiscally Conservative Evangelical Libertarian.

Big Kahuna

LogicallyRight wrote:

Good question.

How many on here actually need that money. I don't. Could use it. I think I'll buy depressed stocks with it and then wait for the recovery, take a quick profit and use it for a vacation. But if you really need it, I'm not trying to diminish your needs, But people making over 50, 60 thousand don't need bailout. Just control your spending.

I am contributing that money to the #Build the Wall Foundation. I figure I can contribute money to build at least 1 foot of that wall to keep the diseased 3rd world intruders and illegal voters who vote demorat out of our country.