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Mar 22, 2020 14:38:05   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
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David Harsanyi on 'wet markets': 'Maybe it's time to stop eating bats'
David Harsanyi By David Harsanyi
Published March 19, 2020 at 7:24pm

The World Health Organization and other sensitive souls have instructed us to stop referring to the new strain of coronavirus as the "Wuhan" or "Chinese" flu because of the racist connotations. I'm disinclined to curb my speech to placate Chinese propagandists, and it seems to me the aversion to those terms is less about racism than about averting blame. But in the spirit of comity, and avoiding disparaging an entire nation, I'm happy to call it the ChiCom flu moving forward.

There are many traditional naming conventions that don't really make that much sense. Somewhat weirdly, for example, we often name diseases after the people who "discover" them – Hodgkin's disease after Thomas Hodgkin, Parkinson's disease after James Parkinson, and so on.

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But naming viral diseases after places – Guinea Worm, West Nile Virus, Ebola, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, etc. – is probably just intuitive. Viruses "come" from someplace, after all, and thus people gravitate to those names. I doubt we came up with "Lyme disease" because of some deep enmity towards Connecticut.

Anyway, "COVID-19" or "H1N1" don't exactly roll off the tongue.

The latter was, until very recently, widely referred to as the "Spanish flu," a virus that killed around 675,000 Americans and tens of millions of others around the world in the early 1900s. "Spanish flu" has now retroactively fallen into disfavor as well. And to be fair, there is some historical evidence that the virus may actually have originated in China or France, so if we must call it the French flu moving forward, so be it.



But while the Spanish have a good case to be annoyed, the Chinese government does not. As Jim Geraghty notes, the Communist Chinese have been far more effective in stopping the spread of information about the coronavirus than in stopping the spread of the coronavirus itself. Today, for example, China expelled most American journalists from the country.

Early on, the Communists destroyed samples and suppressed vital information that could have helped mitigate the damage of this new strain of coronavirus. The government also silenced doctors who warned about the disease. Some were censured for "spreading rumors" or sharing test results with colleagues, and some were forced to write self-critical public letters – a Marxist mainstay – admitting that the warning "had a negative impact." The Chinese Communists probably let 5 million people leave Wuhan without screening, according to The Wall Street Journal.


The Chinese Communists, like all Communists, hide societal problems. There is no crime, disease or addiction in the collectivist state. This kind of secrecy and dishonesty can be disastrous, especially in a highly interconnected world.

Though millions of Chinese have been lifted out of extreme poverty through free trade, with modernity comes some basic responsibilities – for instance, not killing everyone in the world with preventable zoonotic diseases.

The Chinese regime is perfectly capable of administering an array of authoritarian policies to suppress the rights of its own people. But it's apparently unable to exert even mild cultural pressure warning them that their eating habits can be extraordinarily dangerous and hold the potential of creating massive socioeconomic problems.

If reports are correct, it was in Wuhan's popular "wet markets" that vendors were selling the bats – and possibly snakes – that may have caused the COVID-19 outbreak. "Wet" because the meat sold in its unsanitary stalls was only recently slaughtered.

This kind of thing happens quite often. And not always in China, of course. But the avian influenza was likely transmitted to humans from chickens in a "wet" market. Scientists have been warning for years that the eating of exotic animals in southern China "is a time bomb." Acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) also originated in China, and probably jumped to humans through bats. Other coronavirus strains are also likely connected to bats.



I hate to thrust my Western cultural values on anyone, but maybe it's time to stop eating bats.

It's important to stress that it's not the Chinese people who are the problem. Just look at their success in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore and the United States. The ChiComs are the problem. If the Chinese government spent as much time working on educating its people and regulating dangerous markets as it does on secrecy and propaganda efforts, maybe it wouldn't have to worry as much about diseases being named after it – or about the catastrophic death and economic pain their negligence helps cause.

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Mar 22, 2020 15:07:53   #
Noraa Loc: Kansas
 
Or it could have originated out of a bio-lab.

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Mar 22, 2020 15:13:57   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Noraa wrote:
Or it could have originated out of a bio-lab.


It could have started in a Chinese lab, yes. At this point I am going to stick with the concept that the Chinese flu started in China, Whether or not it was manufactured as a bio weapon we may never know.

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Mar 22, 2020 15:16:38   #
Noraa Loc: Kansas
 
no propaganda please wrote:
It could have started in a Chinese lab, yes. At this point I am going to stick with the concept that the Chinese flu started in China, Whether or not it was manufactured as a bio weapon we may never know.


I didn't say China. Who knows?

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Mar 22, 2020 15:18:01   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
no propaganda please wrote:
OUTBREAK!

David Harsanyi on 'wet markets': 'Maybe it's time to stop eating bats'
David Harsanyi By David Harsanyi
Published March 19, 2020 at 7:24pm

The World Health Organization and other sensitive souls have instructed us to stop referring to the new strain of coronavirus as the "Wuhan" or "Chinese" flu because of the racist connotations. I'm disinclined to curb my speech to placate Chinese propagandists, and it seems to me the aversion to those terms is less about racism than about averting blame. But in the spirit of comity, and avoiding disparaging an entire nation, I'm happy to call it the ChiCom flu moving forward.

There are many traditional naming conventions that don't really make that much sense. Somewhat weirdly, for example, we often name diseases after the people who "discover" them – Hodgkin's disease after Thomas Hodgkin, Parkinson's disease after James Parkinson, and so on.

Advertisement - story continues below

But naming viral diseases after places – Guinea Worm, West Nile Virus, Ebola, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, etc. – is probably just intuitive. Viruses "come" from someplace, after all, and thus people gravitate to those names. I doubt we came up with "Lyme disease" because of some deep enmity towards Connecticut.

Anyway, "COVID-19" or "H1N1" don't exactly roll off the tongue.

The latter was, until very recently, widely referred to as the "Spanish flu," a virus that killed around 675,000 Americans and tens of millions of others around the world in the early 1900s. "Spanish flu" has now retroactively fallen into disfavor as well. And to be fair, there is some historical evidence that the virus may actually have originated in China or France, so if we must call it the French flu moving forward, so be it.



But while the Spanish have a good case to be annoyed, the Chinese government does not. As Jim Geraghty notes, the Communist Chinese have been far more effective in stopping the spread of information about the coronavirus than in stopping the spread of the coronavirus itself. Today, for example, China expelled most American journalists from the country.

Early on, the Communists destroyed samples and suppressed vital information that could have helped mitigate the damage of this new strain of coronavirus. The government also silenced doctors who warned about the disease. Some were censured for "spreading rumors" or sharing test results with colleagues, and some were forced to write self-critical public letters – a Marxist mainstay – admitting that the warning "had a negative impact." The Chinese Communists probably let 5 million people leave Wuhan without screening, according to The Wall Street Journal.


The Chinese Communists, like all Communists, hide societal problems. There is no crime, disease or addiction in the collectivist state. This kind of secrecy and dishonesty can be disastrous, especially in a highly interconnected world.

Though millions of Chinese have been lifted out of extreme poverty through free trade, with modernity comes some basic responsibilities – for instance, not killing everyone in the world with preventable zoonotic diseases.

The Chinese regime is perfectly capable of administering an array of authoritarian policies to suppress the rights of its own people. But it's apparently unable to exert even mild cultural pressure warning them that their eating habits can be extraordinarily dangerous and hold the potential of creating massive socioeconomic problems.

If reports are correct, it was in Wuhan's popular "wet markets" that vendors were selling the bats – and possibly snakes – that may have caused the COVID-19 outbreak. "Wet" because the meat sold in its unsanitary stalls was only recently slaughtered.

This kind of thing happens quite often. And not always in China, of course. But the avian influenza was likely transmitted to humans from chickens in a "wet" market. Scientists have been warning for years that the eating of exotic animals in southern China "is a time bomb." Acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) also originated in China, and probably jumped to humans through bats. Other coronavirus strains are also likely connected to bats.



I hate to thrust my Western cultural values on anyone, but maybe it's time to stop eating bats.

It's important to stress that it's not the Chinese people who are the problem. Just look at their success in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore and the United States. The ChiComs are the problem. If the Chinese government spent as much time working on educating its people and regulating dangerous markets as it does on secrecy and propaganda efforts, maybe it wouldn't have to worry as much about diseases being named after it – or about the catastrophic death and economic pain their negligence helps cause.
OUTBREAK! br br David Harsanyi on 'wet markets': ... (show quote)


PCBS is just that!! Call whatever it is as it is, if it offends you then don’t listen~~ Enough of this PCBS...!!!!

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Mar 22, 2020 15:27:12   #
eden
 
no propaganda please wrote:
OUTBREAK!

David Harsanyi on 'wet markets': 'Maybe it's time to stop eating bats'
David Harsanyi By David Harsanyi
Published March 19, 2020 at 7:24pm

The World Health Organization and other sensitive souls have instructed us to stop referring to the new strain of coronavirus as the "Wuhan" or "Chinese" flu because of the racist connotations. I'm disinclined to curb my speech to placate Chinese propagandists, and it seems to me the aversion to those terms is less about racism than about averting blame. But in the spirit of comity, and avoiding disparaging an entire nation, I'm happy to call it the ChiCom flu moving forward.

There are many traditional naming conventions that don't really make that much sense. Somewhat weirdly, for example, we often name diseases after the people who "discover" them – Hodgkin's disease after Thomas Hodgkin, Parkinson's disease after James Parkinson, and so on.

Advertisement - story continues below

But naming viral diseases after places – Guinea Worm, West Nile Virus, Ebola, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, etc. – is probably just intuitive. Viruses "come" from someplace, after all, and thus people gravitate to those names. I doubt we came up with "Lyme disease" because of some deep enmity towards Connecticut.

Anyway, "COVID-19" or "H1N1" don't exactly roll off the tongue.

The latter was, until very recently, widely referred to as the "Spanish flu," a virus that killed around 675,000 Americans and tens of millions of others around the world in the early 1900s. "Spanish flu" has now retroactively fallen into disfavor as well. And to be fair, there is some historical evidence that the virus may actually have originated in China or France, so if we must call it the French flu moving forward, so be it.



But while the Spanish have a good case to be annoyed, the Chinese government does not. As Jim Geraghty notes, the Communist Chinese have been far more effective in stopping the spread of information about the coronavirus than in stopping the spread of the coronavirus itself. Today, for example, China expelled most American journalists from the country.

Early on, the Communists destroyed samples and suppressed vital information that could have helped mitigate the damage of this new strain of coronavirus. The government also silenced doctors who warned about the disease. Some were censured for "spreading rumors" or sharing test results with colleagues, and some were forced to write self-critical public letters – a Marxist mainstay – admitting that the warning "had a negative impact." The Chinese Communists probably let 5 million people leave Wuhan without screening, according to The Wall Street Journal.


The Chinese Communists, like all Communists, hide societal problems. There is no crime, disease or addiction in the collectivist state. This kind of secrecy and dishonesty can be disastrous, especially in a highly interconnected world.

Though millions of Chinese have been lifted out of extreme poverty through free trade, with modernity comes some basic responsibilities – for instance, not killing everyone in the world with preventable zoonotic diseases.

The Chinese regime is perfectly capable of administering an array of authoritarian policies to suppress the rights of its own people. But it's apparently unable to exert even mild cultural pressure warning them that their eating habits can be extraordinarily dangerous and hold the potential of creating massive socioeconomic problems.

If reports are correct, it was in Wuhan's popular "wet markets" that vendors were selling the bats – and possibly snakes – that may have caused the COVID-19 outbreak. "Wet" because the meat sold in its unsanitary stalls was only recently slaughtered.

This kind of thing happens quite often. And not always in China, of course. But the avian influenza was likely transmitted to humans from chickens in a "wet" market. Scientists have been warning for years that the eating of exotic animals in southern China "is a time bomb." Acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) also originated in China, and probably jumped to humans through bats. Other coronavirus strains are also likely connected to bats.



I hate to thrust my Western cultural values on anyone, but maybe it's time to stop eating bats.

It's important to stress that it's not the Chinese people who are the problem. Just look at their success in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore and the United States. The ChiComs are the problem. If the Chinese government spent as much time working on educating its people and regulating dangerous markets as it does on secrecy and propaganda efforts, maybe it wouldn't have to worry as much about diseases being named after it – or about the catastrophic death and economic pain their negligence helps cause.
OUTBREAK! br br David Harsanyi on 'wet markets': ... (show quote)




An excellent post. I was in Guangzhou several years ago and a local friend took me to an exotic restaurant near the river and we toured the “buffet” area prior to seating. On display were live animals that included small dogs, cats, snakes, small monkeys, large rats, turtles, an assortment of birds in cages ranging from sparrows to geese and a collection of insects including water beetles that looked like large cockroaches that were prepared by dipping them in batter and deep frying.
Not exactly a westerners gastronomic cup of tea and I recall feigning vegetarianism so as not to offend my host and ate a small plate of Chowmein.
This is not to imply we should impose our values on other cultures but the Chinese Communists stranglehold on Chinese thinking keeps the people in this medieval mindset that individual thought and action will never be tolerated and western inroads on such basic issues as diet and public health can not be allowed to take root.
I doubt the “Chicom” label will be adopted for diplomatic and PC reasons but it is just another inconvenient truth about this ruthless fascist regime.

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Mar 22, 2020 18:24:09   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
no propaganda please wrote:
OUTBREAK!

David Harsanyi on 'wet markets': 'Maybe it's time to stop eating bats'
David Harsanyi By David Harsanyi
Published March 19, 2020 at 7:24pm

The World Health Organization and other sensitive souls have instructed us to stop referring to the new strain of coronavirus as the "Wuhan" or "Chinese" flu because of the racist connotations. I'm disinclined to curb my speech to placate Chinese propagandists, and it seems to me the aversion to those terms is less about racism than about averting blame. But in the spirit of comity, and avoiding disparaging an entire nation, I'm happy to call it the ChiCom flu moving forward.

There are many traditional naming conventions that don't really make that much sense. Somewhat weirdly, for example, we often name diseases after the people who "discover" them – Hodgkin's disease after Thomas Hodgkin, Parkinson's disease after James Parkinson, and so on.

Advertisement - story continues below

But naming viral diseases after places – Guinea Worm, West Nile Virus, Ebola, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, etc. – is probably just intuitive. Viruses "come" from someplace, after all, and thus people gravitate to those names. I doubt we came up with "Lyme disease" because of some deep enmity towards Connecticut.

Anyway, "COVID-19" or "H1N1" don't exactly roll off the tongue.

The latter was, until very recently, widely referred to as the "Spanish flu," a virus that killed around 675,000 Americans and tens of millions of others around the world in the early 1900s. "Spanish flu" has now retroactively fallen into disfavor as well. And to be fair, there is some historical evidence that the virus may actually have originated in China or France, so if we must call it the French flu moving forward, so be it.



But while the Spanish have a good case to be annoyed, the Chinese government does not. As Jim Geraghty notes, the Communist Chinese have been far more effective in stopping the spread of information about the coronavirus than in stopping the spread of the coronavirus itself. Today, for example, China expelled most American journalists from the country.

Early on, the Communists destroyed samples and suppressed vital information that could have helped mitigate the damage of this new strain of coronavirus. The government also silenced doctors who warned about the disease. Some were censured for "spreading rumors" or sharing test results with colleagues, and some were forced to write self-critical public letters – a Marxist mainstay – admitting that the warning "had a negative impact." The Chinese Communists probably let 5 million people leave Wuhan without screening, according to The Wall Street Journal.


The Chinese Communists, like all Communists, hide societal problems. There is no crime, disease or addiction in the collectivist state. This kind of secrecy and dishonesty can be disastrous, especially in a highly interconnected world.

Though millions of Chinese have been lifted out of extreme poverty through free trade, with modernity comes some basic responsibilities – for instance, not killing everyone in the world with preventable zoonotic diseases.

The Chinese regime is perfectly capable of administering an array of authoritarian policies to suppress the rights of its own people. But it's apparently unable to exert even mild cultural pressure warning them that their eating habits can be extraordinarily dangerous and hold the potential of creating massive socioeconomic problems.

If reports are correct, it was in Wuhan's popular "wet markets" that vendors were selling the bats – and possibly snakes – that may have caused the COVID-19 outbreak. "Wet" because the meat sold in its unsanitary stalls was only recently slaughtered.

This kind of thing happens quite often. And not always in China, of course. But the avian influenza was likely transmitted to humans from chickens in a "wet" market. Scientists have been warning for years that the eating of exotic animals in southern China "is a time bomb." Acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) also originated in China, and probably jumped to humans through bats. Other coronavirus strains are also likely connected to bats.



I hate to thrust my Western cultural values on anyone, but maybe it's time to stop eating bats.

It's important to stress that it's not the Chinese people who are the problem. Just look at their success in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore and the United States. The ChiComs are the problem. If the Chinese government spent as much time working on educating its people and regulating dangerous markets as it does on secrecy and propaganda efforts, maybe it wouldn't have to worry as much about diseases being named after it – or about the catastrophic death and economic pain their negligence helps cause.
OUTBREAK! br br David Harsanyi on 'wet markets': ... (show quote)


The virus most likely came from an animal called a Psngolin... Commonly used in TCM...

SARS came from Civet cats...

Bats are consumed in numerous countries in South East Asia and other parts of the world.. They are not sure common food in China...

Calling any virus by anything other than its official name is ignorant... Yes, diseases are often named after a place or person... This one is not...

Neither Taiwan, Hongkong, nor Singapore were the results of Chinese industry... Taiwan was aided by the US, and both Hong Kong and Singapore were British colonies...

As for educating its people... Take a look at the results from the last PISA exams....

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Mar 22, 2020 20:20:26   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
The virus most likely came from an animal called a Psngolin... Commonly used in TCM...

SARS came from Civet cats...

Bats are consumed in numerous countries in South East Asia and other parts of the world.. They are not sure common food in China...

Calling any virus by anything other than its official name is ignorant... Yes, diseases are often named after a place or person... This one is not...

Neither Taiwan, Hongkong, nor Singapore were the results of Chinese industry... Taiwan was aided by the US, and both Hong Kong and Singapore were British colonies...

As for educating its people... Take a look at the results from the last PISA exams....
The virus most likely came from an animal called a... (show quote)


I have seen pictures of the Pangolin. Looks like a prehistoric animal, very interesting.

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Mar 22, 2020 20:23:28   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
no propaganda please wrote:
I have seen pictures of the Pangolin. Looks like a prehistoric animal, very interesting.


Yeah.... Apparently their scales are used in medicine...

I've never spent much time down South... But it's true that Chinese eat just about anything

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Mar 23, 2020 17:39:06   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
no propaganda please wrote:
It could have started in a Chinese lab, yes. At this point I am going to stick with the concept that the Chinese flu started in China, Whether or not it was manufactured as a bio weapon we may never know.


Obviously my letter/post hasn't come up yet. It was stolen from a Canadian lab by do I have to say it A CHINESE DOCTOR whose name I can't spell. It was brought pretty quickly to China where they botched things so they are trying a coverup lol. Then it went to nearby markets of "wetfood." There is more in my post whenever it comes up. The main thing is the elites joined by globalists (that means China and the mid east) weaponized it.

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