Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Ourworldindata.org

I called my aunt earlier... She gets up early and likes to chat while she drinks her morning tea...

We mostly discussed the Corona virus... Of course...

She brought up a point I had not considered... The most common contributing factors to deaths caused by Covid19 are cardio vascular disease, diabetes, respiratory disease, hypertension, and cancer...

Three of these are common to obese individuals... And without looking up any statistics I can guarantee that obesity is a much larger problem in Canada and the US than in China... Chinese duets are usually far healthier than the majority found in the West (other than the occasional bowl of at soup)

My aunt directed me to a site called ourworldindata.... (sorry...I was unable to copy the link...I've had issues with my copy&paste function and apparently it won't copy links now... but you can type it into a search engine with the word Corona virus and it should couple....)... The site contaoned lot of data, but I found these two charts particularly concerning...

I'm hoping that some of the OPP members can add or expand on this topic... Thanks...

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

So now you are into "fat" shaming Americans while ignoring the growing problem of obesity in China. "The prevalence of obesity has grown around the world, with the World Health Organization saying the worldwide percentage has tripled since 1975. In China, the world's most populous country, the rate of increase is even higher, new research shows.

The population of China is becoming increasingly overweight, according to research published in the Annals of Internal Medicine, an academic medical journal published by the American College of Physicians. During the past decade, the prevalence of obesity in the country has tripled and that of abdominal obesity has increased by more than 50%." published Oct 2019. And in the USA, researchers at the State of Obesity have recently released a report showing that obesity is actually on the decline in the US. The best reductions have been in New York, Ohio, Minnesota, and Montana, where the rate of adult obesity has begun to go down in recent years instead of rising or even leveling off. We have a long way to go, but we are no longer turning a blind eye to our problem.

As for cardiovascular disease, (CVD) is the leading cause of death in China, according to PubMed. Here in the US, every county saw a decline in heart disease deaths. The average decline across the U.S. was 61 percent, but some counties only saw a decline of 9 percent while others cut heart disease deaths by 83 percent.

But, I get it....America = bad. Americans do not know how to eat, run our nation, or eliminate diseases brought into our country. We are apparently ill prepared, fat and lazy, and stupid. Thanks for sharing.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Who's fat shaming anyone?

Did you bother to read what I wrote?

I admitted to not having hard data and asked for contributions from other members...

Yes, China has a growing obesity problem, especially among the younger generation... But it is nowhere near Canada or America's numbers....

And this was brought to my attention by my aunt.. An American, evangelical, conservative, Trump supporter in her 70'...Is she attacking America and fat shaming y'all too?

She's concerned for my cousin, her eldest boy, who had heart surgery a few years back and struggles with cardiovascular problems... Not that he's obese or unhealthy... It appears to be a genetic condition... Very sad.... He's an otherwise fit young man...

So...

Obviously you don't get it...

This isn't about blame or attacking each other.. It's about sharing information and attempting to get a clearer picture...

Get off your pedestal...

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

Cardiovascular is easy, more men than women smoke, vape, and do weed. Sorry, I read another report which broke it down to male and female. Men have one X chromosome which your immune system depends on and women have XX, more protection naturally, probably due to child birthing.

Diabetes is harder. You don't have to be fat. If you have native-American blood you can get it a lot easier. But most cases are due to being overweight. I have diabetes, got it at age 55, I have some native American blood and diabetes runs in the family on my dad's side. I wasn't overweight when it was diagnosed but I am now.

The rest I'll leave to others because I can't read the print.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Good point about the diabetes... One of my best friends got it at age twenty five and he is a skinny guy....

I've read reports about the sex thing as well... And that it hits Asians harder... Something to do with a gene that is more common in them..

A report cane out over here saying that it might affect reproduction in males as well...

So much information... Hard to know what to trust

American Vet

To be honest, I am not impressed by the numbers on the info you posted.

About 1 in 3 of Americans have some type of CVD (cardio-vascular disease). Over the age of 65 or so, about 70% of the people have CVD.

Combine that with some type of pulmonary disease (COPD, chronic bronchitis, severe asthma) and you have a prescription for real problems, whether from the flu or Covid 19.

Getting old is not for wimps.....

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Do you have a source for those numbers?

1 in 3 seems really high?

And how does America define a CVD?

I'm talking to a friend who is doing his PhD in cardiovascular surgery at the provincial capital and he says that China and Pakistan (his nation ) classify it differently...

I never thought of asthma
That's really common over here... Especially in the larger cities...


Edit: Please note that the numbers I posted came from one site...

Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas

Prayers for your cousin.

Idaho

Diabetes is a disease related to the body’s immune cells attacking certain parts of the body.

Obesity is also immune system related. There are a couple of papers, not mainstream, where people who have had to have transplants of gut bacteria due to having theirs killed off, changed body shape to become the same shape as the doner. Fat people got thin, thin people got fat, depending on the bacterial cultures that got transplanted.

Some heart disease problems are likely to be auto immune issues as well.

Old people gradually have a weakened immune system, making them more vulnerable. If they don’t die in a car accident or some other accident, eventually we all die of something immune system related. Cancer results when the immune system can not longer keep up with cleaning out cells that go wrong.

One conspiracy theory is that 5G, with its much higher radiation than 4G, is the reason Wuhan suffered hugely - it was a huge adopter of 5G. Italy is also a huge adopter of 5G.

With luck, the US won’t see the death rates of either Wuhan or Italy, but a lot of Americans are immune-compromised in one way or another.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Thanks.... He's in Canada in a smaller area... And in pretty good health... Until my aunt brought it up I didn't even think about him....

Now she's got me thinking of my sister and her husband... Both obese with bad lungs (smokers...Weed and tobacco )... My dad is pretty heavy with blood problems as well...

And now I have people to call and wake up

Stay strong

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

That's interesting... You're correct about Italy and Wuhan and the 5G... I wonder if there are any studies on that....

American Vet

American Vet

According to the study from the American Heart Association, 121.5 million Americans, or about 48.5 percent, dealt with heart or blood vessel disease as of 2016
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2019/01/31/heart-disease-nearly-half-u-s-adults-have-it-study-finds/2729955002/


Heart Disease in the United States
Heart disease is the leading cause of death for men, women, and people of most racial and ethnic groups in the United States.1
One person dies every 37 seconds in the United States from cardiovascular disease.1
About 647,000 Americans die from heart disease each year—that’s 1 in every 4 deaths.2,3
Heart disease costs the United States about $219 billion each year from 2014 to 2015.3 This includes the cost of health care services, medicines, and lost productivity due to death.
Coronary Artery Disease

Coronary heart disease is the most common type of heart disease, killing 365,914 people in 2017.2
About 18.2 million adults age 20 and older have CAD (about 6.7%).3
About 2 in 10 deaths from CAD happen in adults less than 65 years old.2
Early Action Is Important for Heart Attack
Know the warning signs and symptoms of a heart attack.
Heart Attack

In the United States, someone has a heart attack every 40 seconds.3
Every year, about 805,000 Americans have a heart attack.3 Of these,
605,000 are a first heart attack
200,000 happen to people who have already had a heart attack3
About 1 in 5 heart attacks is silent—the damage is done, but the person is not aware of it.
https://www.cdc.gov/heartdisease/facts.htm

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

Cedar and Oak pollen is tough on people in certain parts of TX. I live in the Thousand Oaks area and it's kicking me harder every year. I cough almost the year round now. I'm expecting ugly looks when I go out to eat when this virus is done.

American Vet

Here in the Mid-West, we getting rain one day, 70 degrees and sunny the next, then cold in to 40's the next. Every mold, spore, and pollen is in the air...