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Mar 19, 2020 11:55:11   #
son of witless
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I was comparing ebola with CoVid, not China with Africa.


Yes but that was my point. Both diseases were spread by people traveling out of the original source of infection. I am trying to explore the WHY of how it was possible to control travelers from the African Ebola danger area against why the World failed to control COVID-19 carriers from China.

Though the diseases are completely different, the problem of containing them to the initial outbreak area is the same. Obviously not the same because in the first instance Ebola was contained and in the second instance of COVID-19 got into the larger World.

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Mar 19, 2020 12:33:50   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Saspatz007 wrote:
We don’t know how long someone can carry it without having symptoms.
How many carriers do we have?
Without real numbers, we can’t know how dangerous it really is.
It’s a tough situation. Where’s the line between sensible precautions and paranoia?


Do you think there should have been a response to H1N1 like this? If so, you are near to your answer about the line between sensible reaction and paranoia.

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Mar 19, 2020 12:54:29   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
son of witless wrote:
Yes but that was my point. Both diseases were spread by people traveling out of the original source of infection. I am trying to explore the WHY of how it was possible to control travelers from the African Ebola danger area against why the World failed to control COVID-19 carriers from China.

Though the diseases are completely different, the problem of containing them to the initial outbreak area is the same. Obviously not the same because in the first instance Ebola was contained and in the second instance of COVID-19 got into the larger World.
Yes but that was my point. Both diseases were spr... (show quote)


Why? Back then Obama was president, that's why. No body saw ebola as an opportunity to take Obama down. Of course I am referring to limiting travel to the US from China, how ever, much of the hypersensitive nature of the left has spread to the rest of the world. And witness that we can't even refer to it as the China virus or the Wuhan virus. It's racist, baby!! LOL!

Also, think borders. Every body world wide have become all sensitive to closed borders.

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Mar 19, 2020 17:03:46   #
Tug484
 
JediKnight wrote:
Agreed! I am surprised that they didn't ask for Social Security numbers though.


It stopped way short of being every job application I've done.
I'm surprised, too about the SS number, but I'm sure they can find that quickly.

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Mar 19, 2020 17:11:10   #
son of witless
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Why? Back then Obama was president, that's why. No body saw ebola as an opportunity to take Obama down. Of course I am referring to limiting travel to the US from China, how ever, much of the hypersensitive nature of the left has spread to the rest of the world. And witness that we can't even refer to it as the China virus or the Wuhan virus. It's racist, baby!! LOL!

Also, think borders. Every body world wide have become all sensitive to closed borders.


I will blame paranoia and gross incompetence in China for their allowing this to turn into a Pandemic. I am being charitable.

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Mar 19, 2020 20:27:27   #
Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds
 
son of witless wrote:
Yes but that was my point. Both diseases were spread by people traveling out of the original source of infection. I am trying to explore the WHY of how it was possible to control travelers from the African Ebola danger area against why the World failed to control COVID-19 carriers from China.

Though the diseases are completely different, the problem of containing them to the initial outbreak area is the same. Obviously not the same because in the first instance Ebola was contained and in the second instance of COVID-19 got into the larger World.
Yes but that was my point. Both diseases were spr... (show quote)


Generally people infected with Ebola died before they spread it much.
COVID-19 is asymptomatic and contagious for quite a while, thusly a much greater risk.

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Mar 20, 2020 11:58:35   #
son of witless
 
Saspatz007 wrote:
Generally people infected with Ebola died before they spread it much.
COVID-19 is asymptomatic and contagious for quite a while, thusly a much greater risk.


I disagree. It may not have as long a dormant period before symptoms appear in an infected person, but they were long enough to spread to many countries. If memory serves me correctly, many of the cases were spread sexually by truck drivers along some of the major roads connecting the various African countries. Ebola's death rate was much higher.

Ebola is much more dangerous than COVID-19.

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Mar 20, 2020 12:42:48   #
JediKnight
 
son of witless wrote:
I will blame paranoia and gross incompetence in China for their allowing this to turn into a Pandemic. I am being charitable.


Don't overlook the two full months Trump twiddled his thumbs while claiming it was all a democratic hoax to make him look bad....now, he does indeed look bad.....and I'm being charitable too.

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Mar 20, 2020 12:50:17   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
JediKnight wrote:
Don't overlook the two full months Trump twiddled his thumbs while claiming it was all a democratic hoax to make him look bad....now, he does indeed look bad.....and I'm being charitable too.


One more time, from your own left wing "fact checking" site:

1. Trump did attempt to cut the CDC’s funding, but Congress prevented it from happening.

2. While officials in charge of the U.S. response to pandemics did leave in 2018, it’s unclear if they were “fired.”

3. The U.S. was not on a list of countries receiving COVID-19 tests from the WHO. But the U.S. doesn’t usually rely on the agency for diagnostic tests, and the testing delay was due mainly to an error with the CDC’s protocol.

4. While Trump has called the Democratic response to the coronavirus a “hoax,” he has not used the term to describe the virus itself.

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Mar 20, 2020 12:58:13   #
son of witless
 
JediKnight wrote:
Don't overlook the two full months Trump twiddled his thumbs while claiming it was all a democratic hoax to make him look bad....now, he does indeed look bad.....and I'm being charitable too.


He cut off travel from China. He was also in contact with Xi who seems to have lied to him, when he said China had this under control.

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Mar 20, 2020 13:01:05   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
son of witless wrote:
He cut off travel from China. He was also in contact with Xi who seems to have lied to him, when he said China had this under control.


Don't forget, WHO lied as well and claimed it didn't move from human to human.

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Mar 20, 2020 13:04:48   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
JediKnight wrote:
Don't overlook the two full months Trump twiddled his thumbs while claiming it was all a democratic hoax to make him look bad....now, he does indeed look bad.....and I'm being charitable too.



Disinformation and flat out lie!

P.S.
Catch up, the media (which was 100% debunked) edited Trumps wuhan virus Speech when assembled with his team of experts, he never said "it was a Democratic hoax" .
Msn, cnn, abc, cbs, just more fake news that you vomit out.

When Trump first blocked all travel from China, these same"news" outlets called Trumps actions "Premature ", "over the top", "Racist ".
Even Democrats are stating "Trump has and is doing actions "Praise worthy"
It's only you far leftist that breath leftist news, twist reality, with vitriolic hate towards Trump.

Gee, this is uncharted territory for the entire world, yet you leftist believe Trump should somehow be able to shi# out two hundred million mask, two million specialty made Ventilators.
Thank God Trump is a business man that understands supply chain and negotiation that is pumping up supplies and emergency manufacturing from companies that don't even manufacture these much needed items
Deregulated every red tape agency and put the competition into the private sector to ramp up treatment and vaccine.
Thank God its not Obama that did nothing until over four months and over 1000 deaths with the sars pandemic.

Go fish your vomit on some other leftist forum where your brothers in socialism/Marxism/ communism will lap it up, like the dogs you are.

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Mar 20, 2020 13:07:08   #
JediKnight
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
One more time, from your own left wing "fact checking" site:

1. Trump did attempt to cut the CDC’s funding, but Congress prevented it from happening.

2. While officials in charge of the U.S. response to pandemics did leave in 2018, it’s unclear if they were “fired.”

3. The U.S. was not on a list of countries receiving COVID-19 tests from the WHO. But the U.S. doesn’t usually rely on the agency for diagnostic tests, and the testing delay was due mainly to an error with the CDC’s protocol.

4. While Trump has called the Democratic response to the coronavirus a “hoax,” he has not used the term to describe the virus itself.
One more time, from your own left wing "fact ... (show quote)


Not sure what imaginary 'left wing fact checking site" you're referring to, but once again, you are mistaken, look here:

Coronavirus: Did Trump's decision to nix pandemic team ...

www.usatoday.com › story › news › world › 2020/03/18 › coronavir...

2 days ago - President Trump is under fire for his move to dismantle a high-level global pandemic office as his administration struggles to respond to ...

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Mar 20, 2020 13:10:04   #
JediKnight
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Disinformation and flat out lie!

P.S.
Catch up, the media (which was 100% debunked) edited Trumps wuhan virus Speech when assembled with his team of experts, he never said "it was a Democratic hoax" .
Msn, cnn, abc, cbs, just more fake news that you vomit out.

When Trump first blocked all travel from China, these same"news" outlets called Trumps actions "Premature ", "over the top", "Racist ".
Even Democrats are stating "Trump has and is doing actions "Praise worthy"
It's only you far leftist that breath leftist news, twist reality, with vitriolic hate towards Trump.

Gee, this is uncharted territory for the entire world, yet you leftist believe Trump should somehow be able to shi# out two hundred million mask, two million specialty made Ventilators.
Thank God Trump is a business man that understands supply chain and negotiation that is pumping up supplies and emergency manufacturing from companies that don't even manufacture these much needed items
Deregulated every red tape agency and put the competition into the private sector to ramp up treatment and vaccine.
Thank God its not Obama that did nothing until over four months and over 1000 deaths with the sars pandemic.

Go fish your vomit on some other leftist forum where your brothers in socialism/Marxism/ communism will lap it up, like the dogs you are.
Disinformation and flat out lie! br br P.S. br... (show quote)


Look here, and try to actually "think" before automatically reaching for the insults...you just make yourself look childish and immature:


Coronavirus: Did Trump's decision to nix pandemic team ...

www.usatoday.com › story › news › world › 2020/03/18 › coronavir...

2 days ago - President Trump is under fire for his move to dismantle a high-level global pandemic office as his administration struggles to respond to ...

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Mar 20, 2020 13:12:58   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
JediKnight wrote:
Look here, and try to actually "think" before automatically reaching for the insults...you just make yourself look childish and immature:


Coronavirus: Did Trump's decision to nix pandemic team ...

www.usatoday.com › story › news › world › 2020/03/18 › coronavir...

2 days ago - President Trump is under fire for his move to dismantle a high-level global pandemic office as his administration struggles to respond to ...



Funding was never cut
Leftist Snopes debunking that cuts were made to the CDC and did you forget had funding been cut, it would have been cut by the Democrat lead Congress?

http://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-cut-cdc-budget/

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