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Mar 19, 2020 15:25:38   #
woodguru
 
permafrost wrote:
Ten Great Public Health Achievements -- Worldwide


Reductions in Child Mortality.
Vaccine-Preventable Diseases.
Access to Safe Water and Sanitation.
Malaria Prevention and Control.
Prevention and Control of HIV/AIDS.
Tuberculosis Control.
Control of Neglected Tropical Diseases.
Tobacco Control.
More items...•Jan 10, 2020
Ten Great Public Health Achievements -- Worldwide
Reductions in Child Mortality.
Vaccine-Preventable Diseases.
Access to Safe Water and Sanitation.
Malaria Prevention and Control.
Prevention and Control of HIV/AIDS.
Tuberculosis Control.
Control of Neglected Tropical Diseases.
Tobacco Control.
More items...•Jan 10, 2020
Ten Great Public Health Achievements -- Worldwide ... (show quote)


Now that right there is seriously funny.

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Mar 20, 2020 09:20:57   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
nice meme....loved that series, was one of the most violent shows to be aired at the beginning of the series...loved it!.....toned it down about season 3, not near as much blood spatter on faces


No cable, only seen the first two seasons.. still looking for the rest as gifts from the kids..

Liked it a lot.. violent indeed...

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Mar 20, 2020 09:24:33   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
The question was regarding the CDC.


News to you apparently, but the CDC and public health are very well connected..



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Mar 20, 2020 09:34:49   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
MR Mister wrote:
It looks like a list of BS! Very vague.
Most of the tinnie bopper's still smoke, plus now they are Vaping like mad.



You guys truly hate the CDC now.. so add that to the long list of what you want ended and move further back into you cave.. you have no hope.. the world will leave you to your own devices soon..

https://www.cdc.gov/about/pdf/cdc-recent-accomplishments.pdf

Save Lives and
Protect People
Americans are better protected from
vaccine-preventable diseases.
• Recommended childhood vaccines through
age 6 currently save 42,000 lives, prevent 20
million cases of disease, and save $70 billion
each year. For example, prior to the introduction
of rotavirus vaccine for U.S. infants in 2006,
the disease was responsible for 55,000 to
70,000 hospitalizations. In 2009, rotavirus
hospitalizations decreased by more than half.
Americans are better protected during
natural disasters, health crises, and
other emergencies.
• CDC improved emergency preparedness by
maintaining America’s Strategic National
Stockpile and developing faster, more efficient
ways to deliver lifesaving medicines and
supplies to all parts of the country during a
public health emergency.
Americans are less likely to get a
life-threatening infection in hospitals
and other healthcare settings.
• CDC programs help reduce infections in
healthcare settings, cutting some life-threatening
infections by a third or more.
Fewer Americans smoke or are
exposed to secondhand smoke.
A TIP ABOUT
SMOKE SECONDHAND
DON’T BE SHY ABOUT
TELLING PEOPLE NOT TO
SMOKE AROUND YOUR KIDS.
Aden, Age 7
Jessica, His mother
New York
Half of U.S. kids are exposed to secondhand
smoke. For Aden, it triggers his asthma attacks.
Keep kids smoke-free. If someone you know
wants free help, call 1-800-QUIT-NOW. www.cdc.gov/tobacco
• CDC support helped 26 million Americans
reduce exposure to cancer- and heart diseasecausing chemicals in tobacco smoke through
expansion of smoke-free workplaces, restaurants,
bars, and other public places.

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Mar 20, 2020 09:58:30   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Explain to us why experts in the field of immunology, knowledgeable about such things as infectious viruses, would see what was happening in China but delay their actions to prepare for it based upon the opinion of a lay person, even if it's the president??

Answer: They wouldn't. Now tell us more about the incompetence of the US response to this and especially relate to us how Obama's "pandemic response team" had us prepared for this? Even if they were fired two years ago, which they weren't, what had they done prior to that, some eight years or more after the H1N1 virus appeared??????
Explain to us why experts in the field of immunolo... (show quote)



Duh,,, those experts did the job.. the orange blob did not heed the advice they gave him because it made him look like the fool he is..

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/15/opinion/trump-coronavirus.html

President Trump made his first public comments about the coronavirus on Jan. 22, in a television interview from Davos with CNBC’s Joe Kernen. The first American case had been announced the day before, and Kernen asked Trump, “Are there worries about a pandemic at this point?”

The president responded: “No. Not at all. And we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

By this point, the seriousness of the virus was becoming clearer. It had spread from China to four other countries. China was starting to take drastic measures and was on the verge of closing off the city of Wuhan.

In the weeks that followed, Trump faced a series of choices. He could have taken aggressive measures to slow the spread of the virus. He could have insisted that the United States ramp up efforts to produce test kits. He could have emphasized the risks that the virus presented and urged Americans to take precautions if they had reason to believe they were sick. He could have used the powers of the presidency to reduce the number of people who would ultimately get sick.

Find some reality... you are getting more set back in your mental state every day..



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Mar 20, 2020 11:34:12   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Duh,,, those experts did the job.. the orange blob did not heed the advice they gave him because it made him look like the fool he is..

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/15/opinion/trump-coronavirus.html

President Trump made his first public comments about the coronavirus on Jan. 22, in a television interview from Davos with CNBC’s Joe Kernen. The first American case had been announced the day before, and Kernen asked Trump, “Are there worries about a pandemic at this point?”

The president responded: “No. Not at all. And we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

By this point, the seriousness of the virus was becoming clearer. It had spread from China to four other countries. China was starting to take drastic measures and was on the verge of closing off the city of Wuhan.

In the weeks that followed, Trump faced a series of choices. He could have taken aggressive measures to slow the spread of the virus. He could have insisted that the United States ramp up efforts to produce test kits. He could have emphasized the risks that the virus presented and urged Americans to take precautions if they had reason to believe they were sick. He could have used the powers of the presidency to reduce the number of people who would ultimately get sick.

Find some reality... you are getting more set back in your mental state every day..
Duh,,, those experts did the job.. the orange blob... (show quote)


Trump didn't dismantle the NSC pandemic response team.

In May 2018, Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer, the senior director of global health and biodefense on the National Security Council, left the administration. He was in charge of the U.S. response to pandemics.

After Ziemer’s departure, the global health team was reorganized by then-National Security Adviser John Bolton as part of an effort to streamline the response and make it more efficient. Meanwhile, Tom Bossert, a homeland security adviser who recommended strong defenses against disease, left shortly after Bolton arrived.

The White House didn’t replace either White House official or his team. Instead, Trump looked within his administration to fill roles for the coronavirus response.

In January, Trump appointed his Health and Human Services secretary, Alex Azar, to chair a coronavirus task force. On Feb. 26, he announced that Vice President Mike Pence would take charge of the U.S. response to the coronavirus.

The World Health Organization shipped coronavirus tests to nearly 60 countries at the end of February, but the U.S. was not among them.

"No discussions occurred between WHO and CDC about WHO providing COVID-19 tests to the United States," said WHO spokeswoman Margaret Harris. "This is consistent with experience since the United States does not ordinarily rely on WHO for reagents or diagnostic tests because of sufficient domestic capacity."

Instead, the U.S. decided to have the CDC develop its own testing protocol, which was published Jan. 28. This caused a lag in testing for the virus in the U.S.

The CDC’s test was different and more complicated than a test published in Germany on Jan. 17. It worked in the CDC lab, but when the materials went out to state labs, some of them got inconsistent results. The CDC had to resend packages with new chemical reagents.

State laboratories started developing their own tests and were ready to use them, but had to wait for emergency approval from the Food and Drug Administration. The combined delays resulted in fewer Americans being tested and a slower U.S. response overall compared with some other countries.

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Mar 20, 2020 11:37:17   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Duh,,, those experts did the job.. the orange blob did not heed the advice they gave him because it made him look like the fool he is..

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/15/opinion/trump-coronavirus.html

President Trump made his first public comments about the coronavirus on Jan. 22, in a television interview from Davos with CNBC’s Joe Kernen. The first American case had been announced the day before, and Kernen asked Trump, “Are there worries about a pandemic at this point?”

The president responded: “No. Not at all. And we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

By this point, the seriousness of the virus was becoming clearer. It had spread from China to four other countries. China was starting to take drastic measures and was on the verge of closing off the city of Wuhan.

In the weeks that followed, Trump faced a series of choices. He could have taken aggressive measures to slow the spread of the virus. He could have insisted that the United States ramp up efforts to produce test kits. He could have emphasized the risks that the virus presented and urged Americans to take precautions if they had reason to believe they were sick. He could have used the powers of the presidency to reduce the number of people who would ultimately get sick.

Find some reality... you are getting more set back in your mental state every day..
Duh,,, those experts did the job.. the orange blob... (show quote)


You haven't answered my question; what did Obama's "pandemic response team" or the CDC do to prepare for the next pandemic after H1N1`in 2009? Why didn't the stock up on ventilators of prepare facilities for fast rack preparation for test kit they knew would be necessary for the next pandemic??

What did they do in 2010? In 2011? In 2012? In 2013? In 2014? In 2015? In 2016?

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Mar 20, 2020 11:39:33   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Duh,,, those experts did the job.. the orange blob did not heed the advice they gave him because it made him look like the fool he is..

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/15/opinion/trump-coronavirus.html

President Trump made his first public comments about the coronavirus on Jan. 22, in a television interview from Davos with CNBC’s Joe Kernen. The first American case had been announced the day before, and Kernen asked Trump, “Are there worries about a pandemic at this point?”

The president responded: “No. Not at all. And we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

By this point, the seriousness of the virus was becoming clearer. It had spread from China to four other countries. China was starting to take drastic measures and was on the verge of closing off the city of Wuhan.

In the weeks that followed, Trump faced a series of choices. He could have taken aggressive measures to slow the spread of the virus. He could have insisted that the United States ramp up efforts to produce test kits. He could have emphasized the risks that the virus presented and urged Americans to take precautions if they had reason to believe they were sick. He could have used the powers of the presidency to reduce the number of people who would ultimately get sick.

Find some reality... you are getting more set back in your mental state every day..
Duh,,, those experts did the job.. the orange blob... (show quote)


So when layperson Trump said the pandemic wasn't going to be bad, did the "experts" in charge of any pandemic response then put down their work and head ot to the course for a round of golf??

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Mar 20, 2020 11:53:43   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Trump didn't dismantle the NSC pandemic response team.

In May 2018, Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer, the senior director of global health and biodefense on the National Security Council, left the administration. He was in charge of the U.S. response to pandemics.

After Ziemer’s departure, the global health team was reorganized by then-National Security Adviser John Bolton as part of an effort to streamline the response and make it more efficient. Meanwhile, Tom Bossert, a homeland security adviser who recommended strong defenses against disease, left shortly after Bolton arrived.

The White House didn’t replace either White House official or his team. Instead, Trump looked within his administration to fill roles for the coronavirus response.

In January, Trump appointed his Health and Human Services secretary, Alex Azar, to chair a coronavirus task force. On Feb. 26, he announced that Vice President Mike Pence would take charge of the U.S. response to the coronavirus.

The World Health Organization shipped coronavirus tests to nearly 60 countries at the end of February, but the U.S. was not among them.

"No discussions occurred between WHO and CDC about WHO providing COVID-19 tests to the United States," said WHO spokeswoman Margaret Harris. "This is consistent with experience since the United States does not ordinarily rely on WHO for reagents or diagnostic tests because of sufficient domestic capacity."

Instead, the U.S. decided to have the CDC develop its own testing protocol, which was published Jan. 28. This caused a lag in testing for the virus in the U.S.

The CDC’s test was different and more complicated than a test published in Germany on Jan. 17. It worked in the CDC lab, but when the materials went out to state labs, some of them got inconsistent results. The CDC had to resend packages with new chemical reagents.

State laboratories started developing their own tests and were ready to use them, but had to wait for emergency approval from the Food and Drug Administration. The combined delays resulted in fewer Americans being tested and a slower U.S. response overall compared with some other countries.
Trump didn't dismantle the NSC pandemic response t... (show quote)




You have the event pretty much right..

the team was cut/removed/not filled by trump.. yes one of his minions actually said the words/signed the paper.. but following what trump wanted.. it is on trump head.. he got rid of the needed facility..

yes, we have shortages even of nose swabs which hindered the test as well. this lack of preparedness is also on trumps head..

We had access to what the rest of the world was using for testing.. trump wanted the production from American companies regardless of pressing need to save lives.. he could easily have used one of several tests used elsewhere in the world and gotten the country in gear for the problem..

Pence,,, yes trump put a science denier in charge of a huge science program.. his son in law in charge of production of test kits..



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Mar 20, 2020 12:02:28   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
You have the event pretty much right..

the team was cut/removed/not filled by trump.. yes one of his minions actually said the words/signed the paper.. but following what trump wanted.. it is on trump head.. he got rid of the needed facility..

yes, we have shortages even of nose swabs which hindered the test as well. this lack of preparedness is also on trumps head..

We had access to what the rest of the world was using for testing.. trump wanted the production from American companies regardless of pressing need to save lives.. he could easily have used one of several tests used elsewhere in the world and gotten the country in gear for the problem..

Pence,,, yes trump put a science denier in charge of a huge science program.. his son in law in charge of production of test kits..
You have the event pretty much right.. br br the... (show quote)


You're just parroting the likes of CNN and MSLSD. Given the "preparedness" of them all, I can't understand why we even have them in the first place?? ALL teh experts were UNPREPAIRED and had done NOTHING since 2009 to prepare for the next viral pandemic. They WERE NOT PREPARED. (Caps for added emphasis.)

But I did see some were prepared, both repug and democrat! They knew to sell out of their investments ahead of the crash. It doesn't appear that Trump did any of that. Hmmmm.

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Mar 20, 2020 12:06:37   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
You haven't answered my question; what did Obama's "pandemic response team" or the CDC do to prepare for the next pandemic after H1N1`in 2009? Why didn't the stock up on ventilators of prepare facilities for fast rack preparation for test kit they knew would be necessary for the next pandemic??

What did they do in 2010? In 2011? In 2012? In 2013? In 2014? In 2015? In 2016?


If you need all that information... look it up yourself..

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Mar 20, 2020 12:11:04   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
You're just parroting the likes of CNN and MSLSD. Given the "preparedness" of them all, I can't understand why we even have them in the first place?? ALL teh experts were UNPREPAIRED and had done NOTHING since 2009 to prepare for the next viral pandemic. They WERE NOT PREPARED. (Caps for added emphasis.)

But I did see some were prepared, both repug and democrat! They knew to sell out of their investments ahead of the crash. It doesn't appear that Trump did any of that. Hmmmm.
You're just parroting the likes of CNN and MSLSD. ... (show quote)




Trump refused to listen to those who told his this was not a PR assault on him.. he choice to not be ready.. he did not care if Americans died.. he only cared about his personal "look"

Area you now moving on to try and defend the senators who shed stocks early and made a killing??? try and figure that out.. you have no chance..

trump will not even let his tax figures released.. his stock transactions will never be seen..

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Mar 20, 2020 12:14:05   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
MR Mister wrote:
It looks like a list of BS! Very vague.
Most of the tinnie bopper's still smoke, plus now they are Vaping like mad.


Over 75% Vape Products Come From ChiCom Mfg Facilities Managed By ChiCom General's

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Mar 20, 2020 12:22:10   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
If you need all that information... look it up yourself..


I come up with zip. I guess you did too! They did nothing to prepare for the next pandemic. What were they getting paid for doing??

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Mar 20, 2020 12:23:23   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Trump refused to listen to those who told his this was not a PR assault on him.. he choice to not be ready.. he did not care if Americans died.. he only cared about his personal "look"

Area you now moving on to try and defend the senators who shed stocks early and made a killing??? try and figure that out.. you have no chance..

trump will not even let his tax figures released.. his stock transactions will never be seen..




1. Trump did attempt to cut the CDC’s funding, but Congress prevented it from happening.

2. While officials in charge of the U.S. response to pandemics did leave in 2018, it’s unclear if they were “fired.”

3. The U.S. was not on a list of countries receiving COVID-19 tests from the WHO. But the U.S. doesn’t usually rely on the agency for diagnostic tests, and the testing delay was due mainly to an error with the CDC’s protocol.

4.While Trump has called the Democratic response to the coronavirus a “hoax,” he has not used the term to describe the virus itself.

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