If you are 65-70 and have pre-existing condition/s, STAY IN.
In Italy, where the virus is now hitting the hardest, "almost all patients were already suffering from serious health problems, including cancer, when the coronavirus infection was detected, according to the newest data from the ISS.
Just three of those who died had no pre-existing health conditions, the data showed.
"Patients who died with coronavirus have an average age of over 80 years, 80.3. The peak of mortality is in the 80-89 year age range. Lethality, ie the number of deaths among the sick, is higher among those over 80," stated Brusaferro.
The fatality rate among those aged under 30 is currently zero, and for under 40s it's 0.3 percent.
The rate rises sharply for over-70s."
Given this, there is no reason to pressure the entire country to sit at home or have businesses close. We know who is going to get really hurt by the virus. Lets help them avoid it and educate everyone else that for most, this disease is rarely lethal. It's not rocket science.
http://www.thelocal.it/20200311/coronavirus-what-do-we-know-about-the-victims-in-italy
nwtk2007 wrote:
In Italy, where the virus is now hitting the hardest, "almost all patients were already suffering from serious health problems, including cancer, when the coronavirus infection was detected, according to the newest data from the ISS.
Just three of those who died had no pre-existing health conditions, the data showed.
"Patients who died with coronavirus have an average age of over 80 years, 80.3. The peak of mortality is in the 80-89 year age range. Lethality, ie the number of deaths among the sick, is higher among those over 80," stated Brusaferro.
The fatality rate among those aged under 30 is currently zero, and for under 40s it's 0.3 percent.
The rate rises sharply for over-70s."
Given this, there is no reason to pressure the entire country to sit at home or have businesses close. We know who is going to get really hurt by the virus. Lets help them avoid it and educate everyone else that for most, this disease is rarely lethal. It's not rocket science.
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Glad you have that all figured out, I feel better...let's hear what you have to say in another couple of months, and pay attention to how much better states look that go into tighter rules before they have a problem, there are plenty of states going with the Italian model to get a definitive answer.
woodguru wrote:
Glad you have that all figured out, I feel better...let's hear what you have to say in another couple of months, and pay attention to how much better states look that go into tighter rules before they have a problem, there are plenty of states going with the Italian model to get a definitive answer.
The Italian data is definitive and correlates with the data from China. There is no reason to hog tie the entire population when we know who the virus is most likely to kill. I'm speaking plain English for you woody.
It's virtually the same for the flu if we didn't have vaccines.
nwtk2007 wrote:
In Italy, where the virus is now hitting the hardest, "almost all patients were already suffering from serious health problems, including cancer, when the coronavirus infection was detected, according to the newest data from the ISS.
Just three of those who died had no pre-existing health conditions, the data showed.
"Patients who died with coronavirus have an average age of over 80 years, 80.3. The peak of mortality is in the 80-89 year age range. Lethality, ie the number of deaths among the sick, is higher among those over 80," stated Brusaferro.
The fatality rate among those aged under 30 is currently zero, and for under 40s it's 0.3 percent.
The rate rises sharply for over-70s."
Given this, there is no reason to pressure the entire country to sit at home or have businesses close. We know who is going to get really hurt by the virus. Lets help them avoid it and educate everyone else that for most, this disease is rarely lethal. It's not rocket science.
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Listen People just distant yourself from folks for 15 days instead of fist-bumping elbow bumping! People stop panicking stop driving the stock market down with your panicking. Stop going to the grocery store and hoarding up food this ain't the zombie apocalypse and you're not in an episode of The Walking Dead!
77Reaganite wrote:
Listen People just distant yourself from folks for 15 days instead of fist-bumping elbow bumping! People stop panicking stop driving the stock market down with your panicking. Stop going to the grocery store and hoarding up food this ain't the zombie apocalypse and you're not in an episode of The Walking Dead!
Even better advise, if you are above 70 with a pre-existing condition don't go out at all. The rest of us can lead normal lives. We don't need to shut down gyms and churches adn gatherings of x number of people. We just need to restrict contact with elderly, especially those with pre-existing conditions.
nwtk2007 wrote:
Even better advise, if you are above 70 with a pre-existing condition don't go out at all. The rest of us can lead normal lives. We don't need to shut down gyms and churches adn gatherings of x number of people. We just need to restrict contact with elderly, especially those with pre-existing conditions.
There's a problem with people looking for the media too much in this country especially right now the media wants to stir the panic in the electorate! We're trying to create as much damage and cause as much Havoc as possible which they've already done! Now the robber barons at the Federal Reserve and the world banking Federation as a whole is making money hand-over-fist right now with these lower interest rates yep just follow the money and you'll figure out why this was all created and all the money is going to China right now because they create the world's supply of medication! They didn't want to be in the trade agreement that they signed with Trump anymore. So they Unleashed this on the west to do as much damage as possible. One knows that when you start kicking out members of the press because you don't want the truth getting out then you know there's something to hide and also the doctor who found the coronavirus yeah he's under house arrest so that let you know that this was a man made false flag bring down the west and President Trump it's not going to happen people
The rest of us can continue to live normal lives and not have our economy destroyed by fear and panic.
In Italy the average age of those killed by the virus is 80.7 yoa and all but three of those had pre-existing conditions like asthma, diabetes, cancer or cancer survivor, etc.
It is much easier to limit exposure one sub-group than it is to the entire population.
http://www.thelocal.it/20200311/coronavirus-what-do-we-know-about-the-victims-in-italy
77Reaganite wrote:
There's a problem with people looking for the media too much in this country especially right now the media wants to stir the panic in the electorate! We're trying to create as much damage and cause as much Havoc as possible which they've already done! Now the robber barons at the Federal Reserve and the world banking Federation as a whole is making money hand-over-fist right now with these lower interest rates yep just follow the money and you'll figure out why this was all created and all the money is going to China right now because they create the world's supply of medication! They didn't want to be in the trade agreement that they signed with Trump anymore. So they Unleashed this on the west to do as much damage as possible. One knows that when you start kicking out members of the press because you don't want the truth getting out then you know there's something to hide and also the doctor who found the coronavirus yeah he's under house arrest so that let you know that this was a man made false flag bring down the west and President Trump it's not going to happen people
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It is, indeed, possible that China did this on purpose. They love to ride the wave of anti-Trump press here in the US as well. I'm not saying this is what happened but it is propinquitous, is it not?
nwtk2007 wrote:
It is, indeed, possible that China did this on purpose. They love to ride the wave of anti-Trump press here in the US as well. I'm not saying this is what happened but it is propinquitous, is it not?
This is basically the globalists Last Stand they knew if this didn't work but what it's doing is making people become more populist towards their own country so this is doing the globalists a disservice because you can you listen to all them lefties that used to say open borders open borders what are they saying now let's close these damn things that means they were misleading the public all along! Need I say more than our Northern Ally Canada it didn't take prime minister Trudeau butt five seconds to realize they needed to close off the border with America I believe this is the death knell to the European Union because you see what their mass migrations have caused cuz I even put a halt to it! I know one thing we better start getting tougher with China after this put more sanctions and more tariffs on all their goods I want a crippled these m************
77Reaganite wrote:
This is basically the globalists Last Stand they knew if this didn't work but what it's doing is making people become more populist towards their own country so this is doing the globalists a disservice because you can you listen to all them lefties that used to say open borders open borders what are they saying now let's close these damn things that means they were misleading the public all along! Need I say more than our Northern Ally Canada it didn't take prime minister Trudeau butt five seconds to realize they needed to close off the border with America I believe this is the death knell to the European Union because you see what their mass migrations have caused cuz I even put a halt to it! I know one thing we better start getting tougher with China after this put more sanctions and more tariffs on all their goods I want a crippled these m************
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Absolutely!! Tariff the hell out of them!!!!!!! And bring pharmaceutical manufacturing back here!!
nwtk2007 wrote:
Absolutely!! Tariff the hell out of them!!!!!!! And bring pharmaceutical manufacturing back here!!
I'm with you on that I would get all of our earnings back and then some I want to watch their people squirm!
77Reaganite wrote:
I'm with you on that I would get all of our earnings back and then some I want to watch their people squirm!
China needs to know that they need us, not visa versa.
nwtk2007 wrote:
The rest of us can continue to live normal lives and not have our economy destroyed by fear and panic.
In Italy the average age of those killed by the virus is 80.7 yoa and all but three of those had pre-existing conditions like asthma, diabetes, cancer or cancer survivor, etc.
It is much easier to limit exposure one sub-group than it is to the entire population.
http://www.thelocal.it/20200311/coronavirus-what-do-we-know-about-the-victims-in-italyI'm 75 years old with a testosterone condition that should be on a 20 year old.
Gosh, I'm worried about the WuFlu.
Mikeyavelli wrote:
I'm 75 years old with a testosterone condition that should be on a 20 year old.
Gosh, I'm worried about the WuFlu.
Heart condition? High testosterone at 75 lends itself to cardiovascular issues. Don't mean to scare ya! At least you won't go lying down, or rather, um, vertical???
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