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Mar 18, 2020 18:44:29   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-responsible-testing-problems-things/story?id=69590286

"“I don't take responsibility at all because we were given a set of circumstances and we were given rules, regulations, and specifications from a different time,” he told reporters. “It wasn't meant for this kind of an event with the kind of numbers that we're talking about.”

Exactly right, that falls to Obama's "pandemic response team." That's what their name says they are. It's in their name!!!!

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Mar 18, 2020 19:25:17   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-responsible-testing-problems-things/story?id=69590286

"“I don't take responsibility at all because we were given a set of circumstances and we were given rules, regulations, and specifications from a different time,” he told reporters. “It wasn't meant for this kind of an event with the kind of numbers that we're talking about.”

Exactly right, that falls to Obama's "pandemic response team." That's what their name says they are. It's in their name!!!!
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-responsible-t... (show quote)


How about some GOOD NEWS? Sources are listed as well. I'm skeptical, to say the least, about some of the claims below. Can we really trust the media to give us truthful news?


- China has CLOSED down its last coronavirus hospital. NOT enough new cases to support them. (NY Post and many others)
- Doctors in India have been SUCCESSFUL in treating Coronavirus. Combination of drugs used: Lopinavir, Retonovir, Oseltamivir along with Chlorphenamine. They are going to suggest the same medicine GLOBALLY. (Times of India)
- Researchers of the Erasmus Medical Center claim to have FOUND an ANTIBODY against coronavirus. (Erasmus Magazine)
- A 103-year-old Chinese grandmother has made a FULL RECOVERY from COVID-19 after being treated for 6 days in Wuhan, China. (Daily Mail UK, MSN, Euro Weekly News)
- Apple reopens all 42 china stores. (Business Insider)
- Cleveland Clinic developed a COVID-19 test that gives RESULTS in HOURS, not days. (FOX 8 News Cleveland, ABC News 5 Cleveland, Cleveland Clinic)
- Good news from South Korea, where the number of new cases is DECLINING. (BNO Newsroom)
- Italy is hit hard, experts say, only because they have the oldest population in Europe. (ABCNews.com, New York Times)
- Scientists in Israel likely to announce the development of a coronavirus VACCINE...still in the works. (Hospimedica.com)
- 3 Maryland coronavirus patients FULLY RECOVERED; able to return to everyday life. (Fox 5 DC)
- A network of Canadian scientists are making excellent PROGRESS in Covid-19 research. (Wired, Montreal Gazette)
- A San Diego biotech company is developing a Covid-19 VACCINE in collaboration with Duke University and National University of Singapore. (CBS News 8 San Diego)
- Tulsa County's first positive COVID-19 case has RECOVERED. This individual has had two NEGATIVE tests, which is the indicator of recovery. (Tulsa World, KFOR Radio Tulsa)

#positivethoughts #covid19 #lasvegas #coronavirus #factsnotfear #thereishope

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Mar 18, 2020 19:54:47   #
Lonewolf
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-responsible-testing-problems-things/story?id=69590286

"“I don't take responsibility at all because we were given a set of circumstances and we were given rules, regulations, and specifications from a different time,” he told reporters. “It wasn't meant for this kind of an event with the kind of numbers that we're talking about.”

Exactly right, that falls to Obama's "pandemic response team." That's what their name says they are. It's in their name!!!!
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-responsible-t... (show quote)


How long did he set back testing by not accepting test kits offered by China and south Korea
Weeks .

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Mar 18, 2020 19:55:27   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
dtucker300 wrote:
How about some GOOD NEWS? Sources are listed as well. I'm skeptical, to say the least, about some of the claims below. Can we really trust the media to give us truthful news?


- China has CLOSED down its last coronavirus hospital. NOT enough new cases to support them. (NY Post and many others)
- Doctors in India have been SUCCESSFUL in treating Coronavirus. Combination of drugs used: Lopinavir, Retonovir, Oseltamivir along with Chlorphenamine. They are going to suggest the same medicine GLOBALLY. (Times of India)
- Researchers of the Erasmus Medical Center claim to have FOUND an ANTIBODY against coronavirus. (Erasmus Magazine)
- A 103-year-old Chinese grandmother has made a FULL RECOVERY from COVID-19 after being treated for 6 days in Wuhan, China. (Daily Mail UK, MSN, Euro Weekly News)
- Apple reopens all 42 china stores. (Business Insider)
- Cleveland Clinic developed a COVID-19 test that gives RESULTS in HOURS, not days. (FOX 8 News Cleveland, ABC News 5 Cleveland, Cleveland Clinic)
- Good news from South Korea, where the number of new cases is DECLINING. (BNO Newsroom)
- Italy is hit hard, experts say, only because they have the oldest population in Europe. (ABCNews.com, New York Times)
- Scientists in Israel likely to announce the development of a coronavirus VACCINE...still in the works. (Hospimedica.com)
- 3 Maryland coronavirus patients FULLY RECOVERED; able to return to everyday life. (Fox 5 DC)
- A network of Canadian scientists are making excellent PROGRESS in Covid-19 research. (Wired, Montreal Gazette)
- A San Diego biotech company is developing a Covid-19 VACCINE in collaboration with Duke University and National University of Singapore. (CBS News 8 San Diego)
- Tulsa County's first positive COVID-19 case has RECOVERED. This individual has had two NEGATIVE tests, which is the indicator of recovery. (Tulsa World, KFOR Radio Tulsa)

#positivethoughts #covid19 #lasvegas #coronavirus #factsnotfear #thereishope
How about some GOOD NEWS? Sources are listed as w... (show quote)


Awesome and it all supports my belief that this thing is going to peter out.

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Mar 18, 2020 20:03:56   #
1ProudAmerican
 
dtucker300 wrote:
How about some GOOD NEWS? Sources are listed as well. I'm skeptical, to say the least, about some of the claims below. Can we really trust the media to give us truthful news?


- China has CLOSED down its last coronavirus hospital. NOT enough new cases to support them. (NY Post and many others)
- Doctors in India have been SUCCESSFUL in treating Coronavirus. Combination of drugs used: Lopinavir, Retonovir, Oseltamivir along with Chlorphenamine. They are going to suggest the same medicine GLOBALLY. (Times of India)
- Researchers of the Erasmus Medical Center claim to have FOUND an ANTIBODY against coronavirus. (Erasmus Magazine)
- A 103-year-old Chinese grandmother has made a FULL RECOVERY from COVID-19 after being treated for 6 days in Wuhan, China. (Daily Mail UK, MSN, Euro Weekly News)
- Apple reopens all 42 china stores. (Business Insider)
- Cleveland Clinic developed a COVID-19 test that gives RESULTS in HOURS, not days. (FOX 8 News Cleveland, ABC News 5 Cleveland, Cleveland Clinic)
- Good news from South Korea, where the number of new cases is DECLINING. (BNO Newsroom)
- Italy is hit hard, experts say, only because they have the oldest population in Europe. (ABCNews.com, New York Times)
- Scientists in Israel likely to announce the development of a coronavirus VACCINE...still in the works. (Hospimedica.com)
- 3 Maryland coronavirus patients FULLY RECOVERED; able to return to everyday life. (Fox 5 DC)
- A network of Canadian scientists are making excellent PROGRESS in Covid-19 research. (Wired, Montreal Gazette)
- A San Diego biotech company is developing a Covid-19 VACCINE in collaboration with Duke University and National University of Singapore. (CBS News 8 San Diego)
- Tulsa County's first positive COVID-19 case has RECOVERED. This individual has had two NEGATIVE tests, which is the indicator of recovery. (Tulsa World, KFOR Radio Tulsa)

#positivethoughts #covid19 #lasvegas #coronavirus #factsnotfear #thereishope
How about some GOOD NEWS? Sources are listed as w... (show quote)


GEEZE, Don't let the DemoRats know this...they'll do all they can to prevent it from continuing...TRUMP hasn't been destroyed yet !!!

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Mar 18, 2020 20:57:47   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Lonewolf wrote:
How long did he set back testing by not accepting test kits offered by China and south Korea
Weeks .


More blame and gloom and doom.

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Mar 18, 2020 22:20:57   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Lonewolf wrote:
How long did he set back testing by not accepting test kits offered by China and south Korea
Weeks .


Oh, brother! You don't keep up with the news very much unless it's from your local democratic demagogic news service, do you? You're better off remaining silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Have you learned anything while being on OPP of do you just spout your nonsense because you have nothing better to do? We have enough test kits and new ones have been and are being developed at this moment that allows self-testing with quick results instead of a few days turn-around to a lab, and they are more accurate.

We were saddled with Obama's rules and regulations. So if you are looking for someone to blame, it was your Fearless Leader's administration.

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Mar 18, 2020 23:36:34   #
woodguru
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-responsible-testing-problems-things/story?id=69590286

"“I don't take responsibility at all because we were given a set of circumstances and we were given rules, regulations, and specifications from a different time,” he told reporters. “It wasn't meant for this kind of an event with the kind of numbers that we're talking about.”

Exactly right, that falls to Obama's "pandemic response team." That's what their name says they are. It's in their name!!!!
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-responsible-t... (show quote)


Really...are you this slow? Trump fired "Obama's" team regardless that they had experience and are good. The rhetoric is that they were not fired, they were "relocated". Do you realize how stupid this sounds and how it does not pass any serious questions? The "relocated" expert people are talking to the press, and they are no longer with any form of pandemic response team.

This non existent pandemic response team would have been on this in December, had the experience to anticipate the need for a billion masks, and several hundred thousand respirators, and would have lined up resources to build out expanded rooms and beds for hospitals.

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Mar 18, 2020 23:43:39   #
woodguru
 
dtucker300 wrote:

We were saddled with Obama's rules and regulations. So if you are looking for someone to blame, it was your Fearless Leader's administration.


Trump had powers that were good enough to fire Obama experts, and he could have made any prevention he wanted happen. Was it Obama's fault that Trump refused the assistance of foreign help getting testing up and running?

South Korea got massive numbers of testing up and running in days, not weeks, their labs didn't have a failure like the CDC did because they either rushed them or were merely incompetent. Every other country has smoothly brought testing levels up to the place they needed to be without being weeks behind.

Your defense of the indefensible needs to stop, it's making you look ridiculous in the face of the facts we know. The only fake news was trump and FOX saying up to a week ago that this was a deep state hoax meant to take trump down, which make no mistake it will. It's no more a hoax than what Italy is dealing with.

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Mar 19, 2020 00:05:04   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
Really...are you this slow? Trump fired "Obama's" team regardless that they had experience and are good. The rhetoric is that they were not fired, they were "relocated". Do you realize how stupid this sounds and how it does not pass any serious questions? The "relocated" expert people are talking to the press, and they are no longer with any form of pandemic response team.

This non existent pandemic response team would have been on this in December, had the experience to anticipate the need for a billion masks, and several hundred thousand respirators, and would have lined up resources to build out expanded rooms and beds for hospitals.
Really...are you this slow? Trump fired "Obam... (show quote)
Trump didn't fire the NSC pandemic response team.

"Fired" is a strong term for what happened, and Trump recently created a team to lead the government’s response to COVID-19.

In May 2018, Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer, the senior director of global health and biodefense on the National Security Council, left the administration. He was in charge of the U.S. response to pandemics.

After Ziemer’s departure, the global health team was reorganized by then-National Security Adviser John Bolton as part of an effort to streamline the response and make it more efficient. Meanwhile, Tom Bossert, a homeland security adviser who recommended strong defenses against disease, left shortly after Bolton arrived.

The White House didn’t replace either White House official or his team. Instead, Trump looked within his administration to fill roles for the coronavirus response.

In January, Trump appointed his Health and Human Services secretary, Alex Azar, to chair a coronavirus task force. On Feb. 26, he announced that Vice President Mike Pence would take charge of the U.S. response to the coronavirus.

The World Health Organization shipped coronavirus tests to nearly 60 countries at the end of February, but the U.S. was not among them.

"No discussions occurred between WHO and CDC about WHO providing COVID-19 tests to the United States," said WHO spokeswoman Margaret Harris. "This is consistent with experience since the United States does not ordinarily rely on WHO for reagents or diagnostic tests because of sufficient domestic capacity."

Instead, the U.S. decided to have the CDC develop its own testing protocol, which was published Jan. 28. This caused a lag in testing for the virus in the U.S.

The CDC’s test was different and more complicated than a test published in Germany on Jan. 17. It worked in the CDC lab, but when the materials went out to state labs, some of them got inconsistent results. The CDC had to resend packages with new chemical reagents.

State laboratories started developing their own tests and were ready to use them, but had to wait for emergency approval from the Food and Drug Administration. The combined delays resulted in fewer Americans being tested and a slower U.S. response overall compared with some other countries.

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Mar 19, 2020 00:10:53   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
woodguru wrote:
Trump had powers that were good enough to fire Obama experts, and he could have made any prevention he wanted happen. Was it Obama's fault that Trump refused the assistance of foreign help getting testing up and running?

South Korea got massive numbers of testing up and running in days, not weeks, their labs didn't have a failure like the CDC did because they either rushed them or were merely incompetent. Every other country has smoothly brought testing levels up to the place they needed to be without being weeks behind.

Your defense of the indefensible needs to stop, it's making you look ridiculous in the face of the facts we know. The only fake news was trump and FOX saying up to a week ago that this was a deep state hoax meant to take trump down, which make no mistake it will. It's no more a hoax than what Italy is dealing with.
Trump had powers that were good enough to fire Oba... (show quote)


You have a warped perspective on things, based on half-truths. Nothing will convince you otherwise. You are happy to remain in your ignorant state of bliss that helps you believe what you only want to see and hear. Things are much more complex than just that Trump refused help or was hampered by Obama's policies. I don't have enough time to explain it to you, and if you had been reading more, even what is posted on OPP that you disagree with and instantly dismiss as Trumpcon propaganda, you would have found out that there is much more to this than your comic book simplified conclusions.

Do you think if Hillary had been President her reaction and response would have been any better? Be honest with yourself. I know that is a lot to ask when your only source is from leftist media controlled by and totally sympathetic to Democrats. (By the way, I don't have cable TV and I don't watch CNN, MSNBC, FOX, or any of the other opinion shows masquerading as news programs. I get my info from reading. You should try it sometime!)

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Mar 19, 2020 00:13:49   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
woodguru wrote:
Really...are you this slow? Trump fired "Obama's" team regardless that they had experience and are good. The rhetoric is that they were not fired, they were "relocated". Do you realize how stupid this sounds and how it does not pass any serious questions? The "relocated" expert people are talking to the press, and they are no longer with any form of pandemic response team.

This non existent pandemic response team would have been on this in December, had the experience to anticipate the need for a billion masks, and several hundred thousand respirators, and would have lined up resources to build out expanded rooms and beds for hospitals.
Really...are you this slow? Trump fired "Obam... (show quote)


And your facts and figures come from where? Up a unicorn's a$$? Just more hate and gloom and doom from the usual hater.

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Mar 19, 2020 00:25:48   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Trump didn't fire the NSC pandemic response team.

"Fired" is a strong term for what happened, and Trump recently created a team to lead the government’s response to COVID-19.

In May 2018, Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer, the senior director of global health and biodefense on the National Security Council, left the administration. He was in charge of the U.S. response to pandemics.

After Ziemer’s departure, the global health team was reorganized by then-National Security Adviser John Bolton as part of an effort to streamline the response and make it more efficient. Meanwhile, Tom Bossert, a homeland security adviser who recommended strong defenses against disease, left shortly after Bolton arrived.

The White House didn’t replace either White House official or his team. Instead, Trump looked within his administration to fill roles for the coronavirus response.

In January, Trump appointed his Health and Human Services secretary, Alex Azar, to chair a coronavirus task force. On Feb. 26, he announced that Vice President Mike Pence would take charge of the U.S. response to the coronavirus.

The World Health Organization shipped coronavirus tests to nearly 60 countries at the end of February, but the U.S. was not among them.

"No discussions occurred between WHO and CDC about WHO providing COVID-19 tests to the United States," said WHO spokeswoman Margaret Harris. "This is consistent with experience since the United States does not ordinarily rely on WHO for reagents or diagnostic tests because of sufficient domestic capacity."

Instead, the U.S. decided to have the CDC develop its own testing protocol, which was published Jan. 28. This caused a lag in testing for the virus in the U.S.

The CDC’s test was different and more complicated than a test published in Germany on Jan. 17. It worked in the CDC lab, but when the materials went out to state labs, some of them got inconsistent results. The CDC had to resend packages with new chemical reagents.

State laboratories started developing their own tests and were ready to use them, but had to wait for emergency approval from the Food and Drug Administration. The combined delays resulted in fewer Americans being tested and a slower U.S. response overall compared with some other countries.
Trump didn't fire the NSC pandemic response team. ... (show quote)


You don't think he's really going to read this, do you? How do you open a closed-mind (other than with a great big 2 x 4 right between the eyes.) The first thing ya gotta do is git their attention.

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Mar 19, 2020 05:28:58   #
fullspinzoo
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
More blame and gloom and doom.


Two biggest losers on OPP ~ this guy and you know the other one. They're having a contest who can be the most negative.

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Mar 19, 2020 06:28:46   #
Tug484
 
woodguru wrote:
Really...are you this slow? Trump fired "Obama's" team regardless that they had experience and are good. The rhetoric is that they were not fired, they were "relocated". Do you realize how stupid this sounds and how it does not pass any serious questions? The "relocated" expert people are talking to the press, and they are no longer with any form of pandemic response team.

This non existent pandemic response team would have been on this in December, had the experience to anticipate the need for a billion masks, and several hundred thousand respirators, and would have lined up resources to build out expanded rooms and beds for hospitals.
Really...are you this slow? Trump fired "Obam... (show quote)



The woman that claimed he fired the team lied.
She lost her job.

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