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Mar 17, 2020 14:08:25   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
American Vet wrote:
Nope: Selective editing. President Trump was quite clear in what he said - there are fine people on both sides. What the liberal media did was commit the sin of omission: He was talking about the 2 groups of people (those wanting to keep statues of Robert E. Lee and those who wanted to remove them) - not the White Supremacist who turned up for the rally.

Here is the entire transcript - feel free to read it. You might also see that he made very interesting remarks about George Washington and Thomas Jefferson in regards to removing statues.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/apr/26/context-trumps-very-fine-people-both-sides-remarks/
Nope: Selective editing. President Trump was quite... (show quote)


This isn't the original speech. The original speech can't be found, at least I can't find it.

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Mar 17, 2020 14:26:21   #
American Vet
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Tell you what wolfman, you go dig up the entire speech where Trump says there are good neo-nazis and we will all read it together in it's entirety. That is IF you can find it. It is so clear that Trump was not saying there are good neo-nazis or white supremacists that the entire speech can't even be found on the internet any more, it is so blocked by Google.


Might want to take a look at this.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/apr/26/context-trumps-very-fine-people-both-sides-remarks/

I posted it to Wolf earlier - but he just keeps on.....probably too many two syllable words.....

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Mar 17, 2020 14:45:20   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
American Vet wrote:
Might want to take a look at this.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/apr/26/context-trumps-very-fine-people-both-sides-remarks/

I posted it to Wolf earlier - but he just keeps on.....probably too many two syllable words.....


I've seen this but it's a follow up to the original speech. The original speech, if heard in totality, is VERY clear about what Trump was talking about when he said there are good people on both sides, but the original speech is no where to be found on the interwaves. I think it's being suppressed since it is very clear what Trump actually said.

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Mar 17, 2020 15:06:11   #
Wolfman888
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Tell you what wolfman, you go dig up the entire speech where Trump says there are good neo-nazis and we will all read it together in it's entirety. That is IF you can find it. It is so clear that Trump was not saying there are good neo-nazis or white supremacists that the entire speech can't even be found on the internet any more, it is so blocked by Google.


They blocked it cause it's hate speech.

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Mar 17, 2020 15:16:48   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Wolfman888 wrote:
They blocked it cause it's hate speech.


They blocked it because it shows what Trump actually said. LOLOL!!!!!!!!!!

I had friends who are nor white supremacists who did not support the removal of a Robert E Lee statue is Dallas. I had other friends who supported it's removal. They were both good people; very good people.

In the original speech, which you claim is hate speech, Trump was referring to those people, not the idiots he later condemned for their racism.

Your refusal to admit that and your continued lie about what Trump said, makes you the liar; makes you the racist; makes you the joke!


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Mar 17, 2020 15:21:54   #
Wolfman888
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
They blocked it because it shows what Trump actually said. LOLOL!!!!!!!!!!

I had friends who are nor white supremacists who did not support the removal of a Robert E Lee statue is Dallas. I had other friends who supported it's removal. They were both good people; very good people.

In the original speech, which you claim is hate speech, Trump was referring to those people, not the idiots he later condemned for their racism.

Your refusal to admit that and your continued lie about what Trump said, makes you the liar; makes you the racist; makes you the joke!

They blocked it because it shows what Trump actual... (show quote)


Ha ha you're cute when you get fired up.

the whole country heard what he said; and he never took it back or clarified.

You must be part of the boomer redneck demographic that supports him while he picks your pocket.

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Mar 17, 2020 15:24:30   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Wolfman888 wrote:
Truthsayer ! You've got to be kidding !

He is one one of the trumpet blowers saying that its all a Democratic plot.

How can you say racism is our greatest enemy when you voted for Trump ?

Remember Charlottesville and "very fine people on both sides" ?

Gotta keep that boomer redneck white supremacist base he can't afford to lose !
Trump Didn't Call Neo-Nazis 'Fine People.' Here's Proof.

By Steve Cortes

News anchors and pundits have repeated lies about Donald Trump and race so often that some of these narratives seem true, even to Americans who embrace the fruits of the president’s policies. The most pernicious and pervasive of these lies is the “Charlottesville Hoax,” the fake-news fabrication that he described the neo-Nazis who rallied in Charlottesville, Va., in August 2017 as “fine people.”

Just last week I exposed this falsehood, yet again, when CNN contributor Keith Boykin falsely stated, “When violent people were marching with tiki torches in Charlottesville, the president said they were ‘very fine people.’” When I objected and detailed that Trump’s “fine people on both sides” observation clearly related to those on both sides of the Confederate monument debate, and specifically excluded the violent supremacists, anchor Erin Burnett interjected, “He (Trump) didn’t say it was on the monument debate at all. No, they didn’t even try to use that defense. It’s a good one, but no one’s even tried to use it, so you just used it now.”

My colleagues seem prepared to dispute our own network’s correct contemporaneous reporting and the very clear transcripts of the now-infamous Trump Tower presser on the tragic events of Charlottesville. Here are the unambiguous actual words of President Trump:

“Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”

After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:

“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”

As a man charged with publicly explaining Donald Trump’s often meandering and colloquial vernacular in highly adversarial TV settings, I appreciate more than most the sometimes-murky nature of his off-script commentaries. But these Charlottesville statements leave little room for interpretation. For any honest person, therefore, to conclude that the president somehow praised the very people he actually derided, reveals a blatant and blinding level of bias.

Nonetheless, countless so-called journalists have furthered this damnable lie. For example, MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace responded that Trump had “given safe harbor to Nazis, to white supremacists.” Her NBC colleague Chuck Todd claimed Trump “gave me the wrong kind of chills. Honestly, I’m a bit shaken from what I just heard.” Not to be outdone, print also got in on the act, with the New York Times spewing the blatantly propagandist headline: “Trump Gives White Supremacists Unequivocal Boost.” How could the Times possibly reconcile that Trump, who admonished that the supremacists should be “condemned totally” somehow also delivered an “unequivocal boost” to those very same miscreants?

But like many fake news narratives, repetition has helped cement this one into a reasonably plausible storyline for all but the most skeptical consumers of news. In fact, over the weekend, Fox News host Chris Wallace pressed White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney on why Trump has not given a speech “condemning … white supremacist bigotry.” Well, Chris, he has, and more than once. The most powerful version was from the White House following Charlottesville and the heartbreaking death of Heather Heyer.

President Trump’s succinct and direct words: “Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”

Despite the clear evidence of Trump’s statements regarding Charlottesville, major media figures insist on spreading the calumny that Trump called neo-Nazis “fine people.” The only explanation for such a repeated falsehood is abject laziness or willful deception. Either way, the duplicity on this topic perhaps encapsulates the depressingly low trust most Americans place in major media, with 77 percent stating in a Monmouth University 2018 poll that traditional TV and newspapers report fake news. In addition, such lies as the Charlottesville Hoax needlessly further divide our already-polarized society.

Instead of hyper-partisan, distorted narratives, as American citizens we should demand adherence to truth -- and adherence to the common values that bind us regardless of politics. In the words of our president: “No matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws, we all salute the same great flag, and we are all made by the same almighty God.”











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Mar 17, 2020 15:31:25   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Wolfman888 wrote:
Ha ha you're cute when you get fired up.

the whole country heard what he said; and he never took it back or clarified.

You must be part of the boomer redneck demographic that supports him while he picks your pocket.


You're the "cute" one, dude. LOL! I borrowed this from Blade:

Trump Didn't Call Neo-Nazis 'Fine People.' Here's Proof.

By Steve Cortes

News anchors and pundits have repeated lies about Donald Trump and race so often that some of these narratives seem true, even to Americans who embrace the fruits of the president’s policies. The most pernicious and pervasive of these lies is the “Charlottesville Hoax,” the fake-news fabrication that he described the neo-Nazis who rallied in Charlottesville, Va., in August 2017 as “fine people.”

Just last week I exposed this falsehood, yet again, when CNN contributor Keith Boykin falsely stated, “When violent people were marching with tiki torches in Charlottesville, the president said they were ‘very fine people.’” When I objected and detailed that Trump’s “fine people on both sides” observation clearly related to those on both sides of the Confederate monument debate, and specifically excluded the violent supremacists, anchor Erin Burnett interjected, “He (Trump) didn’t say it was on the monument debate at all. No, they didn’t even try to use that defense. It’s a good one, but no one’s even tried to use it, so you just used it now.”

My colleagues seem prepared to dispute our own network’s correct contemporaneous reporting and the very clear transcripts of the now-infamous Trump Tower presser on the tragic events of Charlottesville. Here are the unambiguous actual words of President Trump:

“Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”

After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:

“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”

As a man charged with publicly explaining Donald Trump’s often meandering and colloquial vernacular in highly adversarial TV settings, I appreciate more than most the sometimes-murky nature of his off-script commentaries. But these Charlottesville statements leave little room for interpretation. For any honest person, therefore, to conclude that the president somehow praised the very people he actually derided, reveals a blatant and blinding level of bias.

Nonetheless, countless so-called journalists have furthered this damnable lie. For example, MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace responded that Trump had “given safe harbor to Nazis, to white supremacists.” Her NBC colleague Chuck Todd claimed Trump “gave me the wrong kind of chills. Honestly, I’m a bit shaken from what I just heard.” Not to be outdone, print also got in on the act, with the New York Times spewing the blatantly propagandist headline: “Trump Gives White Supremacists Unequivocal Boost.” How could the Times possibly reconcile that Trump, who admonished that the supremacists should be “condemned totally” somehow also delivered an “unequivocal boost” to those very same miscreants?

But like many fake news narratives, repetition has helped cement this one into a reasonably plausible storyline for all but the most skeptical consumers of news. In fact, over the weekend, Fox News host Chris Wallace pressed White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney on why Trump has not given a speech “condemning … white supremacist bigotry.” Well, Chris, he has, and more than once. The most powerful version was from the White House following Charlottesville and the heartbreaking death of Heather Heyer. President Trump’s succinct and direct words:

“Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”

Despite the clear evidence of Trump’s statements regarding Charlottesville, major media figures insist on spreading the calumny that Trump called neo-Nazis “fine people.” The only explanation for such a repeated falsehood is abject laziness or willful deception. Either way, the duplicity on this topic perhaps encapsulates the depressingly low trust most Americans place in major media, with 77 percent stating in a Monmouth University 2018 poll that traditional TV and newspapers report fake news. In addition, such lies as the Charlottesville Hoax needlessly further divide our already-polarized society.

Instead of hyper-partisan, distorted narratives, as American citizens we should demand adherence to truth -- and adherence to the common values that bind us regardless of politics. In the words of our president: “No matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws, we all salute the same great flag, and we are all made by the same almighty God.”

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Mar 17, 2020 16:56:46   #
Comment Loc: California
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Donald Trump
Tucker Carlson just exposed one shocking reality about the coronavirus





Few members of the media have been as sober as Tucker Carlson when it comes to assessing the coronavirus.

The Fake News Media started a wild fire with the news in an attempt to attack President Trump.

But now Tucker Carlson just exposed one shocking reality about the coronavirus.

Fox News host Tucker Carlson has taken time to acknowledge that certain things should be in place to help deal with an outbreak like coronavirus.

He took the opportunity to acknowledge “there should be a plan to respond rapidly in ways that assure the public that the people in charge know what they’re doing.” He continued, “Going forward, our leaders ought to be certain we have enough medicine and tests and hospital beds, at least in case something awful happens unexpectedly – because it will.”

But after acknowledging the obvious, Carlson turned his attention to a few things that many Americans may be forgetting while the Fake News Media attempts to drown out everything else in their attempt to fear monger and weaponize the outbreak against President Trump and his campaign.

Carlson began, “First, borders matter. It turns out that immigration isn’t some boutique political issue that only activists need to care about.” He continued to say, “Immediately after the coronavirus began to spread globally, sane countries started to secure their borders.”

Upon news of the virus many countries were able to deter the immediate spread across their borders to better prepare for a potential outbreak. For example, Israel implemented aggressive border control measures successfully to prevent an immediate and aggressive outbreak.

Tucker digressed, “Unfortunately, nothing like that could ever happen here in the U.S. Democrats would denounce it instantly as racist and xenophobic. So maybe Nancy Pelosi will give us a stern lecture about how immoral Israel is.”

Carlson was taking time to not incite fear, but to encourage his audience to think and to remember how fragile our society really is.

It is unfortunate that it took a global outbreak to wake people up to the reality.

Carlson closed in saying, “If one of your kids had a bad infection, you would do anything for antibiotics. But our leaders don’t control those drugs. China does. The Chinese manufacture our entire supply of antibiotics, not to mention countless other goods your family literally could not live without.

And here’s the worst news: The Chinese hate us and have threatened to withhold life-saving medicine from us. Our most powerful enemy in the world has the power of life and death over our country.”

Carlson closed with a cold reality and encouraging his audience that we should fix this.

For many Americans the coronavirus outbreak has stirred up a storm.

Maybe we were not as prepared as we could have been, but the good news is that we don’t have to panic and go into a tailspin.

We will fix this and moving forward it’s important to remember who our leaders are and the decisions they make that can either protect us, or destroy us.

The Democrats have been pushing for open borders and “playing ball” with China.

Now look at where that has got us.

Pants on Fire News will keep you up-to-date on any further developments.
Donald Trump br Tucker Carlson just exposed one sh... (show quote)


It should be noted " Regulations/over regulations" have caused the drug manufacturers to move to China; just as have many other industries. President Trump dropped a bomb on regulations and the econ exploded.

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Mar 17, 2020 17:04:45   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Comment wrote:
It should be noted " Regulations/over regulations" have caused the drug manufacturers to move to China; just as have many other industries. President Trump dropped a bomb on regulations and the econ exploded.


I honestly did not think of that as being a major factor, but you are so right on this one. Thanks for clarifying that problem.

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Mar 17, 2020 17:21:30   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
no propaganda please wrote:
I honestly did not think of that as being a major factor, but you are so right on this one. Thanks for clarifying that problem.


Yep, comment had a good comment!

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Mar 17, 2020 21:16:22   #
Wolfman888
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
You're the "cute" one, dude. LOL! I borrowed this from Blade:

Trump Didn't Call Neo-Nazis 'Fine People.' Here's Proof.

By Steve Cortes

News anchors and pundits have repeated lies about Donald Trump and race so often that some of these narratives seem true, even to Americans who embrace the fruits of the president’s policies. The most pernicious and pervasive of these lies is the “Charlottesville Hoax,” the fake-news fabrication that he described the neo-Nazis who rallied in Charlottesville, Va., in August 2017 as “fine people.”

Just last week I exposed this falsehood, yet again, when CNN contributor Keith Boykin falsely stated, “When violent people were marching with tiki torches in Charlottesville, the president said they were ‘very fine people.’” When I objected and detailed that Trump’s “fine people on both sides” observation clearly related to those on both sides of the Confederate monument debate, and specifically excluded the violent supremacists, anchor Erin Burnett interjected, “He (Trump) didn’t say it was on the monument debate at all. No, they didn’t even try to use that defense. It’s a good one, but no one’s even tried to use it, so you just used it now.”

My colleagues seem prepared to dispute our own network’s correct contemporaneous reporting and the very clear transcripts of the now-infamous Trump Tower presser on the tragic events of Charlottesville. Here are the unambiguous actual words of President Trump:

“Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”

After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:

“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”

As a man charged with publicly explaining Donald Trump’s often meandering and colloquial vernacular in highly adversarial TV settings, I appreciate more than most the sometimes-murky nature of his off-script commentaries. But these Charlottesville statements leave little room for interpretation. For any honest person, therefore, to conclude that the president somehow praised the very people he actually derided, reveals a blatant and blinding level of bias.

Nonetheless, countless so-called journalists have furthered this damnable lie. For example, MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace responded that Trump had “given safe harbor to Nazis, to white supremacists.” Her NBC colleague Chuck Todd claimed Trump “gave me the wrong kind of chills. Honestly, I’m a bit shaken from what I just heard.” Not to be outdone, print also got in on the act, with the New York Times spewing the blatantly propagandist headline: “Trump Gives White Supremacists Unequivocal Boost.” How could the Times possibly reconcile that Trump, who admonished that the supremacists should be “condemned totally” somehow also delivered an “unequivocal boost” to those very same miscreants?

But like many fake news narratives, repetition has helped cement this one into a reasonably plausible storyline for all but the most skeptical consumers of news. In fact, over the weekend, Fox News host Chris Wallace pressed White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney on why Trump has not given a speech “condemning … white supremacist bigotry.” Well, Chris, he has, and more than once. The most powerful version was from the White House following Charlottesville and the heartbreaking death of Heather Heyer. President Trump’s succinct and direct words:

“Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”

Despite the clear evidence of Trump’s statements regarding Charlottesville, major media figures insist on spreading the calumny that Trump called neo-Nazis “fine people.” The only explanation for such a repeated falsehood is abject laziness or willful deception. Either way, the duplicity on this topic perhaps encapsulates the depressingly low trust most Americans place in major media, with 77 percent stating in a Monmouth University 2018 poll that traditional TV and newspapers report fake news. In addition, such lies as the Charlottesville Hoax needlessly further divide our already-polarized society.

Instead of hyper-partisan, distorted narratives, as American citizens we should demand adherence to truth -- and adherence to the common values that bind us regardless of politics. In the words of our president: “No matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws, we all salute the same great flag, and we are all made by the same almighty God.”
You're the "cute" one, dude. LOL! I bo... (show quote)

He wouldn't know God if they were in the same room.

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Mar 18, 2020 01:07:39   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
Wolfman888 wrote:
Ha ha you're cute when you get fired up.

the whole country heard what he said; and he never took it back or clarified.

You must be part of the boomer redneck demographic that supports him while he picks your pocket.


You nailed it Wolfman888!

Very fine racists are his friends and base. The base is gonna lose their shirts, if not their live, due to dear leader's ineptitude.

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Mar 18, 2020 07:07:18   #
Big Kahuna
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Donald Trump
Tucker Carlson just exposed one shocking reality about the coronavirus





Few members of the media have been as sober as Tucker Carlson when it comes to assessing the coronavirus.

The Fake News Media started a wild fire with the news in an attempt to attack President Trump.

But now Tucker Carlson just exposed one shocking reality about the coronavirus.

Fox News host Tucker Carlson has taken time to acknowledge that certain things should be in place to help deal with an outbreak like coronavirus.

He took the opportunity to acknowledge “there should be a plan to respond rapidly in ways that assure the public that the people in charge know what they’re doing.” He continued, “Going forward, our leaders ought to be certain we have enough medicine and tests and hospital beds, at least in case something awful happens unexpectedly – because it will.”

But after acknowledging the obvious, Carlson turned his attention to a few things that many Americans may be forgetting while the Fake News Media attempts to drown out everything else in their attempt to fear monger and weaponize the outbreak against President Trump and his campaign.

Carlson began, “First, borders matter. It turns out that immigration isn’t some boutique political issue that only activists need to care about.” He continued to say, “Immediately after the coronavirus began to spread globally, sane countries started to secure their borders.”

Upon news of the virus many countries were able to deter the immediate spread across their borders to better prepare for a potential outbreak. For example, Israel implemented aggressive border control measures successfully to prevent an immediate and aggressive outbreak.

Tucker digressed, “Unfortunately, nothing like that could ever happen here in the U.S. Democrats would denounce it instantly as racist and xenophobic. So maybe Nancy Pelosi will give us a stern lecture about how immoral Israel is.”

Carlson was taking time to not incite fear, but to encourage his audience to think and to remember how fragile our society really is.

It is unfortunate that it took a global outbreak to wake people up to the reality.

Carlson closed in saying, “If one of your kids had a bad infection, you would do anything for antibiotics. But our leaders don’t control those drugs. China does. The Chinese manufacture our entire supply of antibiotics, not to mention countless other goods your family literally could not live without.

And here’s the worst news: The Chinese hate us and have threatened to withhold life-saving medicine from us. Our most powerful enemy in the world has the power of life and death over our country.”

Carlson closed with a cold reality and encouraging his audience that we should fix this.

For many Americans the coronavirus outbreak has stirred up a storm.

Maybe we were not as prepared as we could have been, but the good news is that we don’t have to panic and go into a tailspin.

We will fix this and moving forward it’s important to remember who our leaders are and the decisions they make that can either protect us, or destroy us.

The Democrats have been pushing for open borders and “playing ball” with China.

Now look at where that has got us.

Pants on Fire News will keep you up-to-date on any further developments.
Donald Trump br Tucker Carlson just exposed one sh... (show quote)

For years, I have been advising people to avoid vaccines. Most are made in China and God only knows what foreign substances they contain. Maybe now, people will begin to listen.

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Mar 18, 2020 07:13:01   #
Big Kahuna
 
Wolfman888 wrote:
Truthsayer ! You've got to be kidding !

He is one one of the trumpet blowers saying that its all a Democratic plot.

How can you say racism is our greatest enemy when you voted for Trump ?

Remember Charlottesville and "very fine people on both sides" ?

Gotta keep that boomer redneck white supremacist base he can't afford to lose !


Yes, those white, Christian, conservatives are nasty. They just made our country the greatest country in the world. This is more than can be said about you who is still spreading lies about what Trump said in Charlottsville. Don't let that lying tongue get all twisted and choke you to death.

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