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Mar 13, 2020 13:15:53   #
American Vet
 
lindajoy wrote:
You relieved some of the concern I just wish I knew more about these new processes coming about and if they are sufficient for this type of exposure level??


Treatment for the coronavirus is pretty basic - nothing fancy. The uproar is about the test to confirm.

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Mar 13, 2020 16:18:44   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Viruses, and other pathogens, don't give a damn about what type of health care system is in place. The greatest threat to life during a pandemic are stupid people, in and out of the Government.


Next question is why are so many stupid, incompetent boobs employed by the Government?

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Mar 13, 2020 16:24:13   #
American Vet
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Next question is why are so many stupid, incompetent boobs employed by the Government?


Ever tried to fire a government employee?

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Mar 13, 2020 17:25:21   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
JFlorio wrote:
Looks like Italy has that entire government run health care going on. Can you imagine what that would be looking like in a country our size right now. the word overwhelmed comes to mind.


That is what they have in China. Evaluate their responses and results.

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Mar 13, 2020 21:24:48   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
That is what they have in China. Evaluate their responses and results.

Ressponse seems to have been adequate but can't believe anything their propagandists put out. Easy to have government control when the government controls the quality of life. I don't want to be China.

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Mar 13, 2020 23:01:50   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
JFlorio wrote:
Ressponse seems to have been adequate but can't believe anything their propagandists put out. Easy to have government control when the government controls the quality of life. I don't want to be China.


I don't want to be China.
>>>Right now I wouldn't want to be there either. But some time I would like to visit again. Still want to see the Great Wall and the Terra Cotta Warriors.

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Mar 14, 2020 05:10:07   #
American Vet
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
I don't want to be China.
>>>Right now I wouldn't want to be there either. But some time I would like to visit again. Still want to see the Great Wall and the Terra Cotta Warriors.


But only if the Chinese government allows you to do so.

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Mar 14, 2020 07:18:58   #
Tug484
 
American Vet wrote:
From the Internet:

Among the many silly, self-serving things being said about the coronavirus pandemic by the left is that if only we had socialized medicine, this would’ve been prevented/handled so much better.

Still hasn’t occurred to them that they’re accusing the government of moving too slowly and being unprepared and putting politics over health concerns, while simultaneously claiming it would have been so much better if the government were entirely in charge of all health care.
From the Internet: br br Among the many silly, se... (show quote)



They also wouldn't close the borders or cancel flights.

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Mar 14, 2020 07:23:29   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Viruses, and other pathogens, don't give a damn about what type of health care system is in place. The greatest threat to life during a pandemic are stupid people, in and out of the Government.


Captain Obvious!

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Mar 14, 2020 07:42:13   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
JFlorio wrote:
Looks like Italy has that entire government run health care going on. Can you imagine what that would be looking like in a country our size right now. the word overwhelmed comes to mind.


From your article it does have and look at how limited they are in physicians, respirators, medical supplies in general and lack of hospital care or space etc. Not that it can’t or won’t happen in other countries it’s just obvious what is socialized medicine is socialized medicine.

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Mar 14, 2020 07:44:05   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
American Vet wrote:
Treatment for the coronavirus is pretty basic - nothing fancy. The uproar is about the test to confirm.


Correct!!!

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Mar 14, 2020 10:55:46   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
American Vet wrote:
From the Internet:

Among the many silly, self-serving things being said about the coronavirus pandemic by the left is that if only we had socialized medicine, this would’ve been prevented/handled so much better.

Still hasn’t occurred to them that they’re accusing the government of moving too slowly and being unprepared and putting politics over health concerns, while simultaneously claiming it would have been so much better if the government were entirely in charge of all health care.
From the Internet: br br Among the many silly, se... (show quote)


Read this today and thought of your thread.
Decided to add it too..
Its long and more than I posted but keep reading please~~Not many will especially when it comes from the horses mouth about what really is and isn’t.

Viruses don’t care about politics. When it comes to coronavirus, though, political rivalries and biased reporting can combine to make a new and serious disease threat even more difficult to conquer.

As a physician who’s served in Congress, I’d like to help clear up the lies promoted by opponents who care more about vilifying President Trump than about our nation’s success in confronting coronavirus.

Let’s start with the novel virus’ menacing emergence on the international scene in late December. The president acted quickly, by the end of January, to impose restrictions on travel from China, together with targeted screening and quarantines. He was immediately assailed by many Democrats for — in the words of former vice president and current presidential candidate Joe Biden — “hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering.”

They were wrong.

In fact, President Trump’s foresight was affirmed a month later by Dr. Anthony Fauci, the highly respected head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, who asserted that “we would have had many, many more cases” of coronavirus had the president not limited Americans’ exposure as he did.

Anti-Trump naysayers accused the administration of having “muzzled” Dr. Fauci.

They were wrong.

Dr. Fauci retorted that he would never be prevented from speaking his mind, nor had anyone tried to silence him.

One of America’s most distinguished scientists, Dr. Fauci joins a team of experts gathered under the leadership of Vice President Pence in a coordinated whole-of-government drive to manage the battle against coronavirus.

Democrats have rushed to claim that President Trump slashed funding for the Centers for Disease Control and the National Institutes of Health — the agency responsible for following the spread of the virus and, with the Food and Drug Administration, ensuring development and dissemination of diagnostics, vaccines and medications to fight it.

They’re wrong, refuted definitively by The Associated Press: The CDC and NIH haven’t seen cuts.

Similarly, congressional Democrats have derided President Trump for the amount of additional funding he’s requested for federal efforts against coronavirus — but, as he has correctly noted, they shouldn’t be seeking political advantage by “saying, ‘this is terrible, President Trump isn’t asking for enough money.’” Instead, “we should all be working together.”

President Trump is right.

Disgracefully, his antagonists have ignored his invitation to productive cooperation and now say he’s called coronavirus a “hoax.”

They’re wrong again!

It’s clear that President Trump regards coronavirus with the utmost seriousness. In contrast, he regards the Democrats’ campaign of distortions and disinformation about the administration’s approach to the virus as their latest “Russia”-style hoax, and he’s never afraid to call things as he sees them.

President Trump is right.

And while it’s easy for Democrats such as former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg to play second-guessing armchair quarterback when they’re campaigning and observing rather than governing, objective observers like Dr. David Nabarro, a World Health Organization special envoy for COVID-19, have praised the president and his team.

The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security has rated the United States as the nation most prepared to deal with a pandemic. We’ve spent decades gathering data, doing research, establishing protocols and putting resources in place.

We also have one of the strictest regulatory regimes governing evaluation and use of everything involved in health care to ensure that the public will be protected and benefited, not harmed.

Faced with the urgency of coronavirus, one of the most important challenges for the president and his team is to expedite the development and distribution of clinical tests, therapeutic interventions and equipment — while still honoring our high standards.

Admirably, President Trump and Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar have worked steadily to anticipate and respond to emerging needs. They’ve facilitated state and local health authorities’ adaptation of testing procedures to more rapidly identify and track infections, and they’ve accelerated the regulatory process for biotechnology and pharmaceuticals to speed the arrival of vaccines and medications.<snip>

https://www.americanpatriotnewsletter.com/time-for-politics-media-to-act-responsibly-and-respect-president-trumps-leadership/

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Mar 14, 2020 15:20:35   #
American Vet
 
lindajoy wrote:
Read this today and thought of your thread.
Decided to add it too..
Its long and more than I posted but keep reading please~~Not many will especially when it comes from the horses mouth about what really is and isn’t.

Viruses don’t care about politics. When it comes to coronavirus, though, political rivalries and biased reporting can combine to make a new and serious disease threat even more difficult to conquer.

As a physician who’s served in Congress, I’d like to help clear up the lies promoted by opponents who care more about vilifying President Trump than about our nation’s success in confronting coronavirus.

Let’s start with the novel virus’ menacing emergence on the international scene in late December. The president acted quickly, by the end of January, to impose restrictions on travel from China, together with targeted screening and quarantines. He was immediately assailed by many Democrats for — in the words of former vice president and current presidential candidate Joe Biden — “hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering.”

They were wrong.

In fact, President Trump’s foresight was affirmed a month later by Dr. Anthony Fauci, the highly respected head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, who asserted that “we would have had many, many more cases” of coronavirus had the president not limited Americans’ exposure as he did.

Anti-Trump naysayers accused the administration of having “muzzled” Dr. Fauci.

They were wrong.

Dr. Fauci retorted that he would never be prevented from speaking his mind, nor had anyone tried to silence him.

One of America’s most distinguished scientists, Dr. Fauci joins a team of experts gathered under the leadership of Vice President Pence in a coordinated whole-of-government drive to manage the battle against coronavirus.

Democrats have rushed to claim that President Trump slashed funding for the Centers for Disease Control and the National Institutes of Health — the agency responsible for following the spread of the virus and, with the Food and Drug Administration, ensuring development and dissemination of diagnostics, vaccines and medications to fight it.

They’re wrong, refuted definitively by The Associated Press: The CDC and NIH haven’t seen cuts.

Similarly, congressional Democrats have derided President Trump for the amount of additional funding he’s requested for federal efforts against coronavirus — but, as he has correctly noted, they shouldn’t be seeking political advantage by “saying, ‘this is terrible, President Trump isn’t asking for enough money.’” Instead, “we should all be working together.”

President Trump is right.

Disgracefully, his antagonists have ignored his invitation to productive cooperation and now say he’s called coronavirus a “hoax.”

They’re wrong again!

It’s clear that President Trump regards coronavirus with the utmost seriousness. In contrast, he regards the Democrats’ campaign of distortions and disinformation about the administration’s approach to the virus as their latest “Russia”-style hoax, and he’s never afraid to call things as he sees them.

President Trump is right.

And while it’s easy for Democrats such as former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg to play second-guessing armchair quarterback when they’re campaigning and observing rather than governing, objective observers like Dr. David Nabarro, a World Health Organization special envoy for COVID-19, have praised the president and his team.

The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security has rated the United States as the nation most prepared to deal with a pandemic. We’ve spent decades gathering data, doing research, establishing protocols and putting resources in place.

We also have one of the strictest regulatory regimes governing evaluation and use of everything involved in health care to ensure that the public will be protected and benefited, not harmed.

Faced with the urgency of coronavirus, one of the most important challenges for the president and his team is to expedite the development and distribution of clinical tests, therapeutic interventions and equipment — while still honoring our high standards.

Admirably, President Trump and Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar have worked steadily to anticipate and respond to emerging needs. They’ve facilitated state and local health authorities’ adaptation of testing procedures to more rapidly identify and track infections, and they’ve accelerated the regulatory process for biotechnology and pharmaceuticals to speed the arrival of vaccines and medications.<snip>

https://www.americanpatriotnewsletter.com/time-for-politics-media-to-act-responsibly-and-respect-president-trumps-leadership/
Read this today and thought of your thread. br De... (show quote)



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Mar 14, 2020 15:38:17   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
lindajoy wrote:
Read this today and thought of your thread.
Decided to add it too..
Its long and more than I posted but keep reading please~~Not many will especially when it comes from the horses mouth about what really is and isn’t.

Viruses don’t care about politics. When it comes to coronavirus, though, political rivalries and biased reporting can combine to make a new and serious disease threat even more difficult to conquer.

As a physician who’s served in Congress, I’d like to help clear up the lies promoted by opponents who care more about vilifying President Trump than about our nation’s success in confronting coronavirus.

Let’s start with the novel virus’ menacing emergence on the international scene in late December. The president acted quickly, by the end of January, to impose restrictions on travel from China, together with targeted screening and quarantines. He was immediately assailed by many Democrats for — in the words of former vice president and current presidential candidate Joe Biden — “hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering.”

They were wrong.

In fact, President Trump’s foresight was affirmed a month later by Dr. Anthony Fauci, the highly respected head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, who asserted that “we would have had many, many more cases” of coronavirus had the president not limited Americans’ exposure as he did.

Anti-Trump naysayers accused the administration of having “muzzled” Dr. Fauci.

They were wrong.

Dr. Fauci retorted that he would never be prevented from speaking his mind, nor had anyone tried to silence him.

One of America’s most distinguished scientists, Dr. Fauci joins a team of experts gathered under the leadership of Vice President Pence in a coordinated whole-of-government drive to manage the battle against coronavirus.

Democrats have rushed to claim that President Trump slashed funding for the Centers for Disease Control and the National Institutes of Health — the agency responsible for following the spread of the virus and, with the Food and Drug Administration, ensuring development and dissemination of diagnostics, vaccines and medications to fight it.

They’re wrong, refuted definitively by The Associated Press: The CDC and NIH haven’t seen cuts.

Similarly, congressional Democrats have derided President Trump for the amount of additional funding he’s requested for federal efforts against coronavirus — but, as he has correctly noted, they shouldn’t be seeking political advantage by “saying, ‘this is terrible, President Trump isn’t asking for enough money.’” Instead, “we should all be working together.”

President Trump is right.

Disgracefully, his antagonists have ignored his invitation to productive cooperation and now say he’s called coronavirus a “hoax.”

They’re wrong again!

It’s clear that President Trump regards coronavirus with the utmost seriousness. In contrast, he regards the Democrats’ campaign of distortions and disinformation about the administration’s approach to the virus as their latest “Russia”-style hoax, and he’s never afraid to call things as he sees them.

President Trump is right.

And while it’s easy for Democrats such as former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg to play second-guessing armchair quarterback when they’re campaigning and observing rather than governing, objective observers like Dr. David Nabarro, a World Health Organization special envoy for COVID-19, have praised the president and his team.

The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security has rated the United States as the nation most prepared to deal with a pandemic. We’ve spent decades gathering data, doing research, establishing protocols and putting resources in place.

We also have one of the strictest regulatory regimes governing evaluation and use of everything involved in health care to ensure that the public will be protected and benefited, not harmed.

Faced with the urgency of coronavirus, one of the most important challenges for the president and his team is to expedite the development and distribution of clinical tests, therapeutic interventions and equipment — while still honoring our high standards.

Admirably, President Trump and Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar have worked steadily to anticipate and respond to emerging needs. They’ve facilitated state and local health authorities’ adaptation of testing procedures to more rapidly identify and track infections, and they’ve accelerated the regulatory process for biotechnology and pharmaceuticals to speed the arrival of vaccines and medications.<snip>

https://www.americanpatriotnewsletter.com/time-for-politics-media-to-act-responsibly-and-respect-president-trumps-leadership/
Read this today and thought of your thread. br De... (show quote)


Thanks for posting that. All officials from the President to local Mayors and Hospital heads, etc. have a problem with something like this.

If they over react, they are blamed for wasting money and creating panic when none was justified. And their opponents will continually point fingers and blame them for their own political benefit.

If they under react, they are blamed for every sick child, every elderly death, the spread of the virus when it could have been prevented. And their political opponents will continually point fingers and blame them for their own political benefit.

We see this with outright accusations and every little cheap remark. And this while they are under/over reacting themselves. And the press always prints that stuff.

For those of you with an education in basic physics, and those that I am educating right now, there is something called Newtons third law of motion. "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction." And that is exactly what we see in politics and never more evident then when President Trump does anything.

We need them to all work together and behind the scenes, even though they are of different opinions and parties, and quit finding public fault with other's responses to the crisis.

Don't panic. Act responsibly. Don't hoard. And help whenever and wherever individual help is needed. Like sharing a roll of toilet paper with a neighbor who is without, that you hoarded in panic.

Logiclly Right

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Mar 14, 2020 15:46:26   #
Louis
 
American Vet wrote:
From the Internet:

Among the many silly, self-serving things being said about the coronavirus pandemic by the left is that if only we had socialized medicine, this would’ve been prevented/handled so much better.

Still hasn’t occurred to them that they’re accusing the government of moving too slowly and being unprepared and putting politics over health concerns, while simultaneously claiming it would have been so much better if the government were entirel in charge of all health care.
From the Internet: br br Among the many silly, se... (show quote)





Doesn’t China have the biggest socialized medical system in the world? It didn’t seem to work out too well for them did it?

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