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Apr 23, 2014 10:12:20   #
teaman
 
George Soros is one thousand times worse than the Koch's well ever be and he owns the dummycratic party. He "IS" the Obamublating Manure Spreaders puppet master!
The Koch platform has many good and bad ideas but it is absolutely no worse than the dummycratic or Repub-A-Flops platforms!

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/47856/

http://www.humanevents.com/2011/04/02/top-10-reasons-george-soros-is-dangerous/

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/30/meet-george-soros-favorite-african-strongman/

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/318329.Open_Society_Reforming_Global_Capitalism_Reconsidered

And there is much more on this tyrannical idiot if you will just do a little research! As bad as the RINO Repub-A-Flops are, I WANT EVEN TALK TO A DUMMYCRATIC POLITICAN MUCH LESS VOTE FOR ONE! Why? Because the stupid party has aligned it's self with radical thugs who happen to have money and could care less about our Nation, accept to bring her down!
Remember, money does not make you intelligent or give you common sense, but it does give you power as long as there are fools willing to be bribed.....and ALL Dems of any importance are on his payroll!

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Apr 23, 2014 11:44:45   #
Comment Loc: California
 
alabuck wrote:
How many of you know just how engrained the Koch brothers' political agenda is in today's conservative politics? How many of you know that, in 1980, David Koch was the Libertarian Party's vice presidential candidate? How many of you know what the platform of the Libertarian Party was, in 1980?

Senator Bernie Sanders went back in time to 1980, when David Koch ran as the Vice Presidential candidate on the Libertarian ticket. He found their platform for that year, and published it again. It is a manifesto of what David and Charles Koch expect to receive in return for their large investment in American politics.

Here is the list:

We urge the repeal of federal campaign finance laws, and the immediate abolition of the despotic Federal Election Commission.”
“We favor the abolition of Medicare and Medicaid programs.”
“We oppose any compulsory insurance or tax-supported plan to provide health services, including those which finance abortion services.”
“We also favor the deregulation of the medical insurance industry.”
“We favor the repeal of the fraudulent, virtually bankrupt, and increasingly oppressive Social Security system. Pending that repeal, participation in Social Security should be made voluntary.”
“We propose the abolition of the governmental Postal Service. The present system, in addition to being inefficient, encourages governmental surveillance of private correspondence. Pending abolition, we call for an end to the monopoly system and for allowing free competition in all aspects of postal service.”
“We oppose all personal and corporate income taxation, including capital gains taxes.”
“We support the eventual repeal of all taxation.”
“As an interim measure, all criminal and civil sanctions against tax evasion should be terminated immediately.”
“We support repeal of all law which impede the ability of any person to find employment, such as minimum wage laws.”
“We advocate the complete separation of education and State. Government schools lead to the indoctrination of children and interfere with the free choice of individuals. Government ownership, operation, regulation, and subsidy of schools and colleges should be ended.”
“We condemn compulsory education laws … and we call for the immediate repeal of such laws.”
“We support the repeal of all taxes on the income or property of private schools, whether profit or non-profit.”
“We support the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency.”
“We support abolition of the Department of Energy.”
“We call for the dissolution of all government agencies concerned with transportation, including the Department of Transportation.”
“We demand the return of America's railroad system to private ownership. We call for the privatization of the public roads and national highway system.”
“We specifically oppose laws requiring an individual to buy or use so-called "self-protection" equipment such as safety belts, air bags, or crash helmets.”
“We advocate the abolition of the Federal Aviation Administration.”
“We advocate the abolition of the Food and Drug Administration.”
“We support an end to all subsidies for child-bearing built into our present laws, including all welfare plans and the provision of tax-supported services for children.”
“We oppose all government welfare, relief projects, and ‘aid to the poor’ programs. All these government programs are privacy-invading, paternalistic, demeaning, and inefficient. The proper source of help for such persons is the voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals.”
“We call for the privatization of the inland waterways, and of the distribution system that brings water to industry, agriculture and households.”
“We call for the repeal of the Occupational Safety and Health Act.”
“We call for the abolition of the Consumer Product Safety Commission.”
“We support the repeal of all state usury laws.

If these two could just crown themselves Dictators of the World, they would. I have honestly never encountered more evil, fascist human beings and hope a day comes where they're viewed as fringe crazies instead of legitimate political actors. They've spawned an entire generation of "me-me-me" types who actually think these are brilliant ideas, thanks to Ron Paul.

Every single one of these ideas is rooted in John Birch Society dogma. Just because Fred Koch left the Birchers back in the day doesn't mean he abandoned their overall goals. His sons are just expanding capacity for them now, not abandoning their principles.

Think about the consequences of no FAA air traffic controllers. No FDA to gauge the safety of our food and medicines. No one to make car manufacturers build safe cars and trucks. Seat belts and air bags will become things of the past. No EPA to keep our manufacturers from polluting our air and water. No one to make our manufacturers provide safe working environments for their employees. With no taxes at all, who pays for the police, fire departments, teachers, our military, our military equipment?

Be careful people. You may just get more than you bargained for if you allow the Koch brothers to control your political party.

I suggest you keep this list handy. You're going to need it in the days to come.
How many of you know just how engrained the Koch b... (show quote)


The Koch brothers are not running for office. Posting their ideas is reverent to you and Harry Reid. Certainly,. they have no impact on me and thousands, if not millions, of other voters. Your posting is not a point of discussion but a slander at the republican party for receiving part of their contributions. Democrats receive a lot of the bribe money too. So what is your defense of that. Seems to me what is good for the goose is good for the gander. The Koch brothers come now where chose to the amount of money given to the democratic part by the communist labor unions and George Soros. Therefore, your slanders post is ludicrous.

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Apr 23, 2014 11:51:40   #
Comment Loc: California
 
1OldGeezer wrote:
maelstrom,

You don't consider the ACA where the federal government assumes the authority to tell its citizens that they have to buy something, specifically defines the product, prohibits the sale of other policies, and/or be fined EXTREME in the context of our constitutional guarantee of personal and financial freedom?

If Obama had been HONEST about the ACA (you can keep your Dr, keep your policy, it will reduce your costs, etc...,) we wouldn't have this job killing monstrosity now.

If Obama had been HONEST about his election promise of "total transformation" of America, that he means a change to " a utopian socialist paradise" where everyone is dependent on the government, I don't think he would have been elected.

How about the billions of dollars Obama wasted of now failed green energy projects, and still pushing for more..that is not extreme irrational actions?

I give up on understanding how people can simply ignore what this man is doing..and where it will lead..

1oldgeezer
maelstrom, br br You don't consider the ACA where... (show quote)


Add another $6 billion Hillary Clinton lost. Do you communist really want to elect a she wolf who can't find her as.

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Apr 23, 2014 12:03:01   #
Blacksheep
 
alabuck wrote:
How many of you know just how engrained the Koch brothers' political agenda is in today's conservative politics? How many of you know that, in 1980, David Koch was the Libertarian Party's vice presidential candidate? How many of you know what the platform of the Libertarian Party was, in 1980?

Senator Bernie Sanders went back in time to 1980, when David Koch ran as the Vice Presidential candidate on the Libertarian ticket. He found their platform for that year, and published it again. It is a manifesto of what David and Charles Koch expect to receive in return for their large investment in American politics.

Here is the list:

We urge the repeal of federal campaign finance laws, and the immediate abolition of the despotic Federal Election Commission.”
“We favor the abolition of Medicare and Medicaid programs.”
“We oppose any compulsory insurance or tax-supported plan to provide health services, including those which finance abortion services.”
“We also favor the deregulation of the medical insurance industry.”
“We favor the repeal of the fraudulent, virtually bankrupt, and increasingly oppressive Social Security system. Pending that repeal, participation in Social Security should be made voluntary.”
“We propose the abolition of the governmental Postal Service. The present system, in addition to being inefficient, encourages governmental surveillance of private correspondence. Pending abolition, we call for an end to the monopoly system and for allowing free competition in all aspects of postal service.”
“We oppose all personal and corporate income taxation, including capital gains taxes.”
“We support the eventual repeal of all taxation.”
“As an interim measure, all criminal and civil sanctions against tax evasion should be terminated immediately.”
“We support repeal of all law which impede the ability of any person to find employment, such as minimum wage laws.”
“We advocate the complete separation of education and State. Government schools lead to the indoctrination of children and interfere with the free choice of individuals. Government ownership, operation, regulation, and subsidy of schools and colleges should be ended.”
“We condemn compulsory education laws … and we call for the immediate repeal of such laws.”
“We support the repeal of all taxes on the income or property of private schools, whether profit or non-profit.”
“We support the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency.”
“We support abolition of the Department of Energy.”
“We call for the dissolution of all government agencies concerned with transportation, including the Department of Transportation.”
“We demand the return of America's railroad system to private ownership. We call for the privatization of the public roads and national highway system.”
“We specifically oppose laws requiring an individual to buy or use so-called "self-protection" equipment such as safety belts, air bags, or crash helmets.”
“We advocate the abolition of the Federal Aviation Administration.”
“We advocate the abolition of the Food and Drug Administration.”
“We support an end to all subsidies for child-bearing built into our present laws, including all welfare plans and the provision of tax-supported services for children.”
“We oppose all government welfare, relief projects, and ‘aid to the poor’ programs. All these government programs are privacy-invading, paternalistic, demeaning, and inefficient. The proper source of help for such persons is the voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals.”
“We call for the privatization of the inland waterways, and of the distribution system that brings water to industry, agriculture and households.”
“We call for the repeal of the Occupational Safety and Health Act.”
“We call for the abolition of the Consumer Product Safety Commission.”
“We support the repeal of all state usury laws.

If these two could just crown themselves Dictators of the World, they would. I have honestly never encountered more evil, fascist human beings and hope a day comes where they're viewed as fringe crazies instead of legitimate political actors. They've spawned an entire generation of "me-me-me" types who actually think these are brilliant ideas, thanks to Ron Paul.

Every single one of these ideas is rooted in John Birch Society dogma. Just because Fred Koch left the Birchers back in the day doesn't mean he abandoned their overall goals. His sons are just expanding capacity for them now, not abandoning their principles.

Think about the consequences of no FAA air traffic controllers. No FDA to gauge the safety of our food and medicines. No one to make car manufacturers build safe cars and trucks. Seat belts and air bags will become things of the past. No EPA to keep our manufacturers from polluting our air and water. No one to make our manufacturers provide safe working environments for their employees. With no taxes at all, who pays for the police, fire departments, teachers, our military, our military equipment?

Be careful people. You may just get more than you bargained for if you allow the Koch brothers to control your political party.

I suggest you keep this list handy. You're going to need it in the days to come.
How many of you know just how engrained the Koch b... (show quote)


I like a good portion of these ideas. Not all of them, but as others have said here already, the Koch brothers ran and lost because they were honest and put their agenda right out front where all could see it. Honesty is inconsistent with evil. Soros is evil and dishonest.

But thanks for clarifying your position, Alabuck, as a Communist propagandist. I haven't seen much of you on OPP and I wasn't sure until now. Much appreciated. Now I know what I'm dealing with.

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Apr 23, 2014 14:20:36   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Democrats have pushed to hard and too fast, Obama has set them back years. He lies and the news media covers by not reporting and his fellow democrats repeat the same lies.



Trooper745 wrote:
And because those items were extremist, Koch was not elected. If you honestly wrote down the platform of the Democratic Party, and Obama's honest goals for the USA, it would be just as ridiculously extreme, or worse. Koch was honest and lost, if democrats were as honest, they wouldn't win either.

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Apr 23, 2014 15:24:01   #
Chrissi Loc: Washington state, now in Utah
 
The only person I've EVER KNOWN to believe Kochs, was also a past member of the 'Birch Society', was my half-sister. And what she spews, makes me embarrassed to admit she is related to me. I did not realize that they had tried to attain higher political offices. Thank you very much for the enlightenment!!Chrissi

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Apr 23, 2014 15:27:08   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Chrissi wrote:
The only person I've EVER KNOWN to believe Kochs, was also a past member of the 'Birch Society', was my half-sister. And what she spews, makes me embarrassed to admit she is related to me. I did not realize that they had tried to attain higher political offices. Thank you very much for the enlightenment!!Chrissi


And how much credence do you place in Soros and his puppet Obama?

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Apr 23, 2014 15:37:26   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Iggy Rat wrote:
It's a bit extreme, I'll admit, but they're basically saying the same things as our founders. "We're Americans. We can do it on our own. If you don't leave us alone, we'll kill you. If you need to be taken care of, either find someone to do so or die." Sounds good to me.

very well put.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Apr 23, 2014 16:15:13   #
Chrissi Loc: Washington state, now in Utah
 
You've got your facts--I've got mine & never the 'twain shall meet!

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Apr 23, 2014 22:47:18   #
ginger
 
alabuck wrote:
Trying to communicate with you on an intelligent level wasn't working, so I tried to dumb it down to your level and use the vernacular you use. It's still not working. Apparently, you have shut your mind to allow only those who agree with you to express any viewpoints. If so, then please, do move on from my OP.


It doesn't do any good to try to talk to any of them. They are very closed minded. They would not mind having the Koch brothers take over the country until they had to deal with having to grovel at the feet of one of them for anything they got.
Darrell Issa is starting hearings on shutting down the postal system and turning it over to UPS and Fed Ex. He's starting with no more Saturday delivery.

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Apr 23, 2014 22:57:13   #
Coupdecu
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
And how much credence do you place in Soros and his puppet Obama?


Very good I am glad you let them know about the
the that man running our country Puppet master George Soros who followed Hitler men around taking his own country mens belongings in his younger day and how many countries had Soros Bankrupt. Hail Puppet Obama Heil

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Apr 23, 2014 22:58:46   #
stevenkalka
 
ginger wrote:
It doesn't do any good to try to talk to any of them. They are very closed minded. They would not mind having the Koch brothers take over the country until they had to deal with having to grovel at the feet of one of them for anything they got.
Darrell Issa is starting hearings on shutting down the postal system and turning it over to UPS and Fed Ex. He's starting with no more Saturday delivery.


I could live without Saturday delivery. With declining demand for their services, something has to give. Either that, or let them sublease space in the large p.o. stations or advertise on postal trucks.

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Apr 23, 2014 23:28:10   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Are you even reading what you post?

How long would FEDEX or UPS be in business if the lost 15.9 billion a year? Who make up that difference, the tax payer. The mail system should have been put down years ago but instead we keep pumping billions into it every year.

You seem to forget Harry and many democrats accepted Koch money without a thought. Tom Steyer to stop the pipe line, $100,000 million!


ginger wrote:
It doesn't do any good to try to talk to any of them. They are very closed minded. They would not mind having the Koch brothers take over the country until they had to deal with having to grovel at the feet of one of them for anything they got.
Darrell Issa is starting hearings on shutting down the postal system and turning it over to UPS and Fed Ex. He's starting with no more Saturday delivery.

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Apr 23, 2014 23:53:24   #
Comment Loc: California
 
bmac32 wrote:
Are you even reading what you post?

How long would FEDEX or UPS be in business if the lost 15.9 billion a year? Who make up that difference, the tax payer. The mail system should have been put down years ago but instead we keep pumping billions into it every year.

You seem to forget Harry and many democrats accepted Koch money without a thought. Tom Steyer to stop the pipe line, $100,000 million!


For God's sake shut down Saturday delivery. Give me a break from those bills arriving on Saturday. My weekends would be so much more enjoyable if I didn't know how much I had to pay until Monday.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Apr 23, 2014 23:58:06   #
ginger
 
bmac32 wrote:
Are you even reading what you post?

How long would FEDEX or UPS be in business if the lost 15.9 billion a year? Who make up that difference, the tax payer. The mail system should have been put down years ago but instead we keep pumping billions into it every year.

You seem to forget Harry and many democrats accepted Koch money without a thought. Tom Steyer to stop the pipe line, $100,000 million!


The post office has to pay pentions 75 years in advance. Ordered by congress. That is why they run at a loss. They have been sending 5 billion a year to the government for pentions for people that aren't even born yet. Now Issa wants to kill the post office. Who gets all that money? And yes he has said that the mail could go to UPS and Fed Ex. So you will have to pay(probably a lot more) to send mail and probably have to pay to get it too.
And yes Steyer is putting in money to stop that pipeline. I'm glad he is. TrandCanada does not have a good track record with their pipelines. From one of TransCanada's engineers...The pipeline they built two years ago leaks, the pipeline they built last year leaks. Do we really want something that the head of TransCanada said would leak 2% going through the farm land? I think tarsands soaked veggies would be a lot worse for us than GMO's.

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