Come on Christians, It’s Time To Let Go of Your Aversion to Gays (Page 22): Thanks Parky... Now I feel ashamed... I truly appreciate the sentiment... God bless...

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Parky60 wrote:

I don't want to see you end up in hell.

Thanks Parky...

Now I feel ashamed...

I truly appreciate the sentiment...

God bless...

Chamuco

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

I already replied...

You can let your breath out....

What you purported to be an answer.., i read as intellectual obfuscation.

Separating science from the product of science is a monstrous non sequitur.

Furthermore.., your characterizing ww2 as a "religious war" just because it involved all faiths
is further evidence of illogic.., specifically.., that the "sides" in ww2 [allied
v. axis] were not religiously connected at all. italy, germany and japan [catholic, christian,
shintu] v. us, russia, england [catholic, christian, atheist].

Bottom line: ascribing the cause of ww2 to religion is just about as IGNORANT as one
can get AND.., reflects a mentality hostile to religion.

I know.., I know.., you LOVE religion.

LOL

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Chamuco wrote:

What you purported to be an answer.., i read as intellectual obfuscation.

Separating science from the product of science is a monstrous non sequitur.

Separation of cause. and means is not a non sequitur...

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Furthermore.., your characterizing ww2 as a "religious war" just because it involved all faiths
is further evidence of illogic.., specifically.., that the "sides" in ww2 [allied
v. axis] were not religiously connected at all. italy, germany and japan [catholic, christian,
shintu] v. us, russia, england [catholic, christian, atheist].

I did not characterize WW2 as a religious war... I stayed that religion was a factor that contributed to it...

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Bottom line: ascribing the cause of ww2 to religion is just about as IGNORANT as one
can get AND.., reflects a mentality hostile to religion.

Critical reading is a skill that an be developed with practice... Start by providing quotes to back up your accusations... If you can't provide a quote, it is a signal that your logic is faulty...

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I know.., I know.., you LOVE religion.

LOL

I tolerate most faiths, respect the rights of my brothers to pursue their own paths, and love God...

I do not whitewash religion (a human construct), nor do I conflate it with faith (a natural construct)....

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

...and?

Addendum: God allowed women to be freed from their husbands if they did not provide them with food clothing and shelter and sex in Exodus 21:10-11.

If, however, a husband puts his wife away., i.e., "puts her out of his house," so that he can remarry, while still retaining her dowry, by not legally divorcing her, for him, that is the best of all possible worlds,

and for her, if she is forced to live a bare maintenance existence, even if he provides her a room somewhere and enough food to survive, she is still legally bound, without the right to remarry... and without any hope of future joy in her life, this is not God's plan for His people.

I've found no Scriptures that even ensure a woman being put away, without a legal divorce, would be guaranteed any right to sustenance from him.

She has no enforceable legal agreement.

There may well be such a Scripture tucked away that is not obvious to me, and I haven't studied this subject in many years, so if you find it, please post it.

maximus wrote:

Your reasoning has never occurred to me, but I believe you're right! I DO have a question though...I thought if a man put his wife away, he had to provide for her, nothing fancy but a place to live and food.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

I tolerate most faiths, respect the rights of my brothers to pursue their own paths, and love God...

I do not whitewash religion (a human construct), nor do I conflate it with faith (a natural construct)....

Do you love God more than you love your wife, family and brothers?

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

Zemirah wrote:

...and? br br Addendum: God allowed women to be f... (show quote)

It's been many years for me too, but I'll search.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Blade_Runner wrote:

Do you love God more than you love your wife, family and brothers?

Far more....

It's not something that can be rightfully equated...

Without Him none of those other things would exist...

newbear Loc: New York City

maximus wrote:

I believe you are correct. From Wiipedia; br br G... (show quote)

Thank you Maximus for a further explanation of an "improper" use of this momentous invention. I only tried not offending some non-judgmental Christians on here.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

I tolerate most faiths, respect the rights of my brothers to pursue their own paths, and love God...

I do not whitewash religion (a human construct), nor do I conflate it with faith (a natural construct)....

"I tolerate most faiths, respect the rights of my brothers to pursue their own paths, and love God...

I do not whitewash religion (a human construct), nor do I conflate it with faith (a natural construct)...." - Canuckus Deploracus

Good answer.

I think we have a misunderstanding here.

Chamuco

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

I tolerate most faiths, respect the rights of my brothers to pursue their own paths, and love God...

I do not whitewash religion (a human construct), nor do I conflate it with faith (a natural construct)....

Similarly.., I do not whitewash science by separating it from the effects of scientific discovery.

Without the "human construct".., NEITHER FAITH NOR SCIENCE EVEN EXISTS.

ADDITIONALLY...

1. while it ABSOLUTELY TRUE that without science.., weapons of mass destruction COULD NOT exit..,

2. it is ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE that without religion the vast majority of wars [including the most destructive of them all -- civil war, ww1, ww2 not to mention korean and vietnamese wars -- WOULD NOT have been waged.

Your tolerance/respect for all religions is laudable but completely beside the point.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

[quote=Chamuco]Similarly.., I do not whitewash science by separating it from the effects of scientific discovery.

Without the "human construct".., NEITHER FAITH NOR SCIENCE EVEN EXISTS.

ADDITIONALLY...

1. while it ABSOLUTELY TRUE that without science.., weapons of mass destruction COULD NOT exit..,

2. it is ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE that without religion the vast majority of wars [including the most destructive of them all -- civil war, ww1, ww2 not to mention korean and vietnamese wars -- WOULD NOT have been waged.

Your tolerance/respect for all religions is laudable but completely beside the point.[/quote]

To me;
The bottom line here is religion can be misused.
Same as nationalism.
Both have their good sides.

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

eagleye13 wrote:

To me;
The bottom line here is religion can be misused.
Same as nationalism.
Both have their good sides.

Religion is man made. Salvation is a gift from God. Religion will NEVER get anyone into heaven. Salvation through the blood of Jesus is the ONLY way to see heaven!

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

maximus wrote:

Religion is man made. Salvation is a gift from God. Religion will NEVER get anyone into heaven. Salvation through the blood of Jesus is the ONLY way to see heaven!

True, but Religion can be informative.Find the right sources, pastors.
IMO; That can be hard to find.

Chamuco

eagleye13 wrote:

To me;
The bottom line here is religion can be misused.
Same as nationalism.
Both have their good sides.

true.
but not what Canuckus Deploracus and i were comparing
which was religion v. science.., not religion v. nationalism.

Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds

Zemirah wrote:

https://biblereasons.com/sodomy

It is a sin against nature. The Word sodomy comes from Sodom and Gomorrah and God destroyed the city because of homosexuality.

Genesis 18:20-21 And the Lord said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous; I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me;

Sodomy was only one of the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Ezekiel 16:49 - Look this was the guilt of your Sodom: she and her daughters had pride excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. They were haughty, and did abominable things before me: therefore I removed them when I saw.

Note: failure to care for the poor and needy, under prosperous conditions, is listed before “abominable acts”.